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He doesn't have more hype because he is playing on a borderline tournament team in the Big East. Nice.
Quote from: tower912 on December 23, 2015, 03:21:47 PM
He doesn't have more hype because he is playing on a borderline tournament team in the Big East. Nice.
At least it is an honest assessment.
If he was on one of the bluebloods, he would clearly be considered the #2 freshman in the country without question.
Quote from: tower912 on December 23, 2015, 03:21:47 PM
He doesn't have more hype because he is playing on a borderline tournament team in the Big East. Nice.
Well, he
is playing on a borderline tournament team. And he
is playing in the Big East.
As for the amount of hype, I know it probably seems like a lot to plenty of y'all, but believe me when I say that very few people in college-basketball mad North Carolina could tell you who Henry Ellenson is.
The national hype will come.
I really liked this article and the accompanying video clips. Very informative.
As for his draft status ... it certainly seems Henry will be a top-10 pick and maybe top-5. He is young and talented and NBA types no doubt are very psyched about his potential. He will stay at Marquette for a second year if he likes the college environment, if he believes the 2016-17 Warriors can be special and/or if he wants to play another year with his brother. If none of those things matter that much to him, he of course will go pro -- as he should. There is no reason to make it more complicated than that.
I enjoyed the clips, too. All in all, a fair analysis of his skills.
Quote from: brandx on December 23, 2015, 03:45:31 PM
At least it is an honest assessment.
If he was on one of the bluebloods, he would clearly be considered the #2 freshman in the country without question.
Well he is considered the #2 freshman so.........https://twitter.com/cbssportscbb/status/679387218708815872
https://twitter.com/robdauster/status/676014387434536960
https://twitter.com/becb_sbn/status/675937173326065665
There are very, very few players in the entire world that are more "hyped" than Henry Ellenson in the minds of the only people that matter, NBA GMs and Scouts.
Who gives a crap about hype? For many reasons I want him to not read his press clippings and hear about how he's a star.
Quote from: mujivitz06 on December 23, 2015, 07:22:46 PM
Who gives a crap about hype? For many reasons I want him to not read his press clippings and hear about how he's a star.
Cool, yeah bro. I doubt his family, friends, former recruiters like Izzo, coach Cal, or Coach K, all the top NBA Draft experts, the dozens of NBA scouts who have seen him play have had any impact on him already. He is just tour run of the mill college basketball player, let's keep it that way!
Anyone got ESPN insider? They are ranking the freshman based off what scouts are saying
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on December 23, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
Anyone got ESPN insider? They are ranking the freshman based off what scouts are saying
3. Henry Ellenson, F, Marquette Golden Eagles
16.7 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 2.5 APG
Ellenson is among the most versatile big men in the nation with his ability to step outside and shoot.
Best performance: 15 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists in a win at Wisconsin.
Scout's take: "He's got some tools in his box. Simmons won't take 3-pointers. [Ellenson] is probably taking too many for the low percentage [27 percent] he's shooting."
1. Ben Simmons, F, LSU
2. Brandon Ingram, F, Duke
3. Henry Ellenson, F, Marquette
4. Jamal Murray, G, Kentucky
5. Jaylen Brown, F, California
6. Dedric Lawson, F, Memphis
7. Ivan Rabb, F, California
8. Malik Beasley, G, Florida State
9. Dwayne Bacon, G, Florida State
10. Caleb Swanigan, F, Purdue
11. Allonzo Trier, G, Arizona
12. Dejounte Murray, G, Washington
13. Ethan Happ, F, Wisconsin
14. Tyler Davis, C,Texas A&M
15. Thomas Bryant, C, Indiana
Quote from: brandx on December 24, 2015, 12:08:29 AM
1. Ben Simmons, F, LSU
2. Brandon Ingram, F, Duke
3. Henry Ellenson, F, Marquette
4. Jamal Murray, G, Kentucky
5. Jaylen Brown, F, California
6. Dedric Lawson, F, Memphis
7. Ivan Rabb, F, California
8. Malik Beasley, G, Florida State
9. Dwayne Bacon, G, Florida State
10. Caleb Swanigan, F, Purdue
11. Allonzo Trier, G, Arizona
12. Dejounte Murray, G, Washington
13. Ethan Happ, F, Wisconsin
14. Tyler Davis, C,Texas A&M
15. Thomas Bryant, C, Indiana
It would be freaking hilarious if Happ declared for the Draft after this season.
Happ is a nice player as a redshirt frosh, but he is as close to the NBA as I am. He does not have any game but the lay-up game and is not big enough to play center
in the pros. Much Like Luke, has to learn how to take an outside shot to make the next level. Both players need to expand there game.
Quote from: Chili on December 23, 2015, 09:49:49 PM
3. Henry Ellenson, F, Marquette Golden Eagles
16.7 PPG, 9.4 RPG, 2.5 APG
Ellenson is among the most versatile big men in the nation with his ability to step outside and shoot.
Best performance: 15 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists in a win at Wisconsin.
Scout's take: "He's got some tools in his box. Simmons won't take 3-pointers. [Ellenson] is probably taking too many for the low percentage [27 percent] he's shooting."
Absolutely agree with the last sentence.
Actually, I agree with all of it.
It would be sweet if Haanif would move into a few of these ratings, but he's not consistent enough yet. Maybe by season's end ...
Quote from: brandx on December 24, 2015, 12:08:29 AM
1. Ben Simmons, F, LSU
2. Brandon Ingram, F, Duke
3. Henry Ellenson, F, Marquette
4. Jamal Murray, G, Kentucky
5. Jaylen Brown, F, California
6. Dedric Lawson, F, Memphis
7. Ivan Rabb, F, California
8. Malik Beasley, G, Florida State
9. Dwayne Bacon, G, Florida State
10. Caleb Swanigan, F, Purdue
11. Allonzo Trier, G, Arizona
12. Dejounte Murray, G, Washington
13. Ethan Happ, F, Wisconsin
14. Tyler Davis, C,Texas A&M
15. Thomas Bryant, C, Indiana
Stone???
Quote from: Heisenberg on December 24, 2015, 01:22:00 PM
Stone???
On a veteran team so he doesn't get enough minutes. This is NOT how players are rated by NBA scouts - it is what they have done this year so far.
Sounds like Gary Parrish has a Man Crush on HE. Did he clear this with Brent?
Inside College Hoops: This weekend is all about Louisville at Kentucky
December 25, 2015 12:13 pm ET
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25426310/inside-college-hoops-this-weekend-is-all-about-louisville-at-kentucky
FUN GAME BETWEEN TWO UNRANKED TEAMS: I can't, with a straight face, tell you it's a "fun" game. But Marquette's Henry Ellenson is fun, and by fun I mean terrific. The 6-foot-10 freshman is averaging 16.7 points and 9.4 rebounds for the Golden Eagles, who have won eight straight games. They host Presbyterian on Sunday.