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Title: True road games by conference
Post by: Windyplayer on December 15, 2015, 01:17:05 PM
I guess there was some chatter about the Big 12 being the best conference hands down this year, and John Gasaway tweeted the below...

True road games played so far by member teams:

SEC: 21
B1G: 19
ACC: 16
Pac-12: 15
Big East: 14
Big 12: 5

SWAC: 66


Kinda remarkable that the Big 12 has only played 5. Glad to see the Big East isn't lagging behind.

EDIT: Over/under on money generated by SWAC teams as a whole for buy games this year?
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: naginiF on December 15, 2015, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: Windyplayer on December 15, 2015, 01:17:05 PM
I guess there was some chatter about the Big 12 being the best conference hands down this year, and John Gasaway tweeted the below...

True road games played so far by member teams:

SEC: 21 - 1.5/team....14 teams
B1G: 19 - 1.36/team...14 teams
ACC: 16 - 1.07/team.....15 teams
Pac-12: 15 - 1.25/team.....12 teams
Big East: 14 - 1.4/team....duh
Big 12: 5 - .5/team.....10 teams

SWAC: 66
- 6.6/team

Kinda remarkable that the Big 12 has only played 5. Glad to see the Big East isn't lagging behind.

EDIT: Over/under on money generated by SWAC teams as a whole for buy games this year?

On a per team basis the SEC comes back to the pack with B1G, Pac12 and us. 

My guess (0 research/googles) ....$5M total
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 15, 2015, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: naginiF on December 15, 2015, 01:57:28 PM
On a per team basis the SEC comes back to the pack with B1G, Pac12 and us. 

My guess (0 research/googles) ....$5M total

Digging deeper into the numbers, I like it!
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: Windyplayer on December 15, 2015, 02:03:01 PM
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on December 15, 2015, 02:00:00 PM
Digging deeper into the numbers, I like it!
Ha, love how some SWAC teams have played at least 7 true road games...and that's used to recruit!
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 15, 2015, 02:13:22 PM
Quote from: Windyplayer on December 15, 2015, 02:03:01 PM
Ha, love how some SWAC teams have played at least 7 true road games...and that's used to recruit!

Certainly the cash they get for the program helps recruiting.  Plus the team gets to travel outside the SWAC, stay in motels overnight, and play in an environment they won't see anything close to during conference season. 
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: bilsu on December 15, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
Our one true road game is hurting the conference in this comparison.
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: naginiF on December 15, 2015, 02:25:09 PM
Quote from: bilsu on December 15, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
Our one true road game is hurting the conference in this comparison.
I jumped right into the rock fight from inside my glass house! 
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 15, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
Quote from: bilsu on December 15, 2015, 02:15:24 PM
Our one true road game is hurting the conference in this comparison.

Okay, I admit I'm missing this.  Are you saying that we didn't beat Wisco by enough to help conference RPI?
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: naginiF on December 15, 2015, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on December 15, 2015, 02:34:37 PM
Okay, I admit I'm missing this.  Are you saying that we didn't beat Wisco by enough to help conference RPI?
If this years game against UW was at the BMO we wouldn't have a true road game, the BE would only have 11 road games and B1G would have 20
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: The Lens on December 15, 2015, 08:05:37 PM
I sat in a sports marketing class in 1997 and Bill Cords told us now important a 16 game home schedule was for the university athletic department.   At the time, it made all the sense in the world.  But now?  I understand expenses (salaries, facilities) have gone up but TV money has SKYROCKETED.   And I would bet donations have gone up significantly too.  This was in the final days of the Tip Off Club.   The big money was just being found. 

So with a much difference model, why are we still operating on the antiquated 16 games at home model?   

I realize much of the preseason is tourneys / challenges created by ESPN, etc but surely two year contracts for home and homes can still be done. 
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: CTWarrior on December 15, 2015, 08:44:00 PM
Quote from: The Lens on December 15, 2015, 08:05:37 PM
So with a much difference model, why are we still operating on the antiquated 16 games at home model?   
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We aren't operating on that model, are we?  We'd have a great schedule with only 16 home games.  We have 19 this year.  If we replaced 6 of those buy games with home and homes, we'd have 16 home games and as good a schedule as anybody.  Just one less home game would mean two home and homes (one at home and one on the road).
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: GGGG on December 15, 2015, 08:51:25 PM
Quote from: The Lens on December 15, 2015, 08:05:37 PM
I sat in a sports marketing class in 1997 and Bill Cords told us now important a 16 game home schedule was for the university athletic department.   At the time, it made all the sense in the world.  But now?  I understand expenses (salaries, facilities) have gone up but TV money has SKYROCKETED.   And I would bet donations have gone up significantly too.  This was in the final days of the Tip Off Club.   The big money was just being found. 

So with a much difference model, why are we still operating on the antiquated 16 games at home model?   

I realize much of the preseason is tourneys / challenges created by ESPN, etc but surely two year contracts for home and homes can still be done. 


My guess is that expenses have increased more than revenue has since 1997. 
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: The Lens on December 15, 2015, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on December 15, 2015, 08:44:00 PM
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We aren't operating on that model, are we?  We'd have a great schedule with only 16 home games.  We have 19 this year.  If we replaced 6 of those buy games with home and homes, we'd have 16 home games and as good a schedule as anybody.  Just one less home game would mean two home and homes (one at home and one on the road).

Very true. I forgot that two of our home games don't count as they are exempt due to FanDuel.  And guessing that the 19th was GVS. 
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: brewcity77 on December 15, 2015, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: The Lens on December 15, 2015, 08:52:15 PM
Very true. I forgot that two of our home games don't count as they are exempt due to FanDuel.  And guessing that the 19th was GVS.

We have 20 total home games this year in the package including the Valley City State exhibition.
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: dbwarriors on December 15, 2015, 09:16:14 PM
Quote from: Windyplayer on December 15, 2015, 01:17:05 PM
I guess there was some chatter about the Big 12 being the best conference hands down this year, and John Gasaway tweeted the below...

True road games played so far by member teams:

Need to do percentages; otherwise, it's not a fair comparison.

SEC: 21
B1G: 19
ACC: 16
Pac-12: 15
Big East: 14
Big 12: 5

SWAC: 66


Kinda remarkable that the Big 12 has only played 5. Glad to see the Big East isn't lagging behind.

EDIT: Over/under on money generated by SWAC teams as a whole for buy games this year?
Title: Re: True road games by conference
Post by: chapman on December 15, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Quote from: Windyplayer on December 15, 2015, 01:17:05 PM
EDIT: Over/under on money generated by SWAC teams as a whole for buy games this year?

Bout 8 bucks per game over their travel costs.  Which is why Broecker seems to love them so much. 
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