I am a Texans fan. Sadly, we have either been bad or a typical NFL middle of the pack team. We never have had a "franchise" QB. It seems you have to have one to really break through to the top.
ESPN suggests a very bold Watt to Packers trade. He is beloved here..but if he goes anywhere it should be back home. They said a trade for Watt would entail the Packers giving their 2016 & 2017 1st round picks and a conditional 1st round pick in 2018.
Both sides could gain. The Texans could bundle or trade up to get the next "franchise" quality QB in the draft, this year or next.
The Packers could go all in for the next five years, or so, ensuring a defensive POY, to pair with Rodgers remaining years....a formidable super bowl level team with the NFL's two biggest stars (last years no 1 and 2 MVP votes).
To be bold and break the Texans out of also ran status, to return JJ to rightful home, and to let the pack go all in for all the marbles....I can see where this might actually work.
Is ESPNs bold suggestion of this trade possible, impossible, workable, etc.
What to you think in WI? I'm curious
BTW, I apologize if this was posted on elsewhere, a few weeks ago when ESPN ran the story
Ted Thompson would never trade two first round picks for JJ Watt.
I would love to get Watt but 3 #1 picks is way too much.
I remember when this article came out and the title was something like "6 Trades We'd Love To See That Will Never Happen."
Can he play WR?
It is also not a small issue that they would have to remake the defense into a 4-3. Unless of course he can play the role that Julius Peppers does now in the 3-4.
Thanks for the input.
I have chatted with Houston fans on this often. Almost all say they'd regret losing Watt but all agree something bold must be done to break the mediocrity here, So, all I spoke to here, in the end, say yes they'd do it.
Your posts have cleared up my confusion, as its clear the Pack wouldn't do it...you need both sides as willing trade partners. So,...
If its ok with y'all.... we'll just hang on to Justin...broken hand and all.
Now....do any of you have any ideas how we can get a franchise QB...we Texan fans remain desperate. Help!!
Quote from: houwarrior on December 10, 2015, 02:52:55 PM
Thanks for the input.
I have chatted with Houston fans on this often. Almost all say they'd regret losing Watt but all agree something bold must be done to break the mediocrity here, So, all I spoke to here, in the end, say yes they'd do it.
Your posts have cleared up my confusion, as its clear the Pack wouldn't do it...you need both sides as willing trade partners. So,...
If its ok with y'all.... we'll just hang on to Justin...broken hand and all.
Now....do any of you have any ideas how we can get a franchise QB...we Texan fans remain desperate. Help!!
Maybe Rodgers will sit week 17, Tolzien will throw for 5 TDs to keep Minni out of the Playoffs, and you can sign him for $40M while drafting a QB in the 3rd round.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 10, 2015, 09:05:47 AM
It is also not a small issue that they would have to remake the defense into a 4-3. Unless of course he can play the role that Julius Peppers does now in the 3-4.
JJ Watt plays in a 3-4 defense already though if I'm not mistaken. The Packers wouldn't have to change anything if they got him.
That would be a colossally bad trade for the Packers, and Thompson luckily is smart enough to never consider it.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 09, 2015, 09:07:38 PM
Ted Thompson would never trade two first round picks for JJ Watt.
This.
The guy lives and dies by the draft... trading even a single first-round pick would be like TT donating a kidney; so you can clearly see the problem with him trading two 1st-rounders.
Quote from: houwarrior on December 10, 2015, 02:52:55 PM
Now....do any of you have any ideas how we can get a franchise QB...we Texan fans remain desperate. Help!!
Kidnap one?
Today, the ESPN beat reporter for the Texans echoed Texan fans concerns, ie ultimatley to enjoy winning success JJ will need to paired with a real NFL QB....which given our history, I fear the Texans never will have one.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14336512/without-franchise-qb-jj-watt-only-do-much-nfl