Here is a link to a clippers.com fluff piece on Doc's team practicing at the Al today. Love the connections MU has with NBA teams/players.
http://www.nba.com/clippers/news/clippers-practice-doc-rivers-alma-mater
Bud Ellis?
Quote from: TSmith34 on December 08, 2015, 10:24:36 PM
Bud Ellis?
Didn't Bud play on those NCAA champs with Sparky Lee and Junior Whitehead?
Anyone know who all went to the game with Doc?
Quote from: Skitch on December 09, 2015, 01:13:44 AM
Anyone know who all went to the game with Doc?
Think I saw Reddick and Crawford. To be fair though I based that assumption on a white guy sitting next to a bald guy near Doc.
Austin Rivers for sure, not sure about anyone else
Reddick and Austin rivers for sure
Doc mentioned Reddick while he was plugging Real Chili.
Any Doc sightings at RC last night?
Doc certainly there. Also chattin' it up with Tony Smith and some time with TV coverage guys on the air, presume saying some good things about his time at MU and where he thought our program was headed. And no doubt looking up to the rafters to appreciate his #31 next to Bud's.
It was also awesome to see Don Kojis at the game. Still the leading rebounder in MU hoops history!
Doc seems like a good guy and great representative of the university, but he has to be one of the most overrated coaches of all time. Did nothing until he had 3 HOF's and an all-star PG in Boston. He has 3 all-stars in LAC and they just look undisciplined. Maybe it is Doc the GM sabotaged his team since I don't think anyone can win with a bench of JSmooth, Crawford and Austin.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 09, 2015, 07:58:36 PM
Doc seems like a good guy and great representative of the university, but he has to be one of the most overrated coaches of all time. Did nothing until he had 3 HOF's and an all-star PG in Boston. He has 3 all-stars in LAC and they just look undisciplined. Maybe it is Doc the GM sabotaged his team since I don't think anyone can win with a bench of JSmooth, Crawford and Austin.
Totally agree. A man who is only one of 30 people in the world to hold his position and who has won a world championship is completely overrated. I think his dialog last night around having new components to the team and needing them to 'buy into' the team philosophy is completely covering up for his lack of ability.
However, I do agree that he is a great representative of the university and probably does wonders for both recruiting and donations.....we couldn't ask for a more public and well spoken advocate.
Quote from: chapman on December 09, 2015, 08:34:33 AM
Doc mentioned Reddick while he was plugging Real Chili.
I always found it was Real Chili that did the "plugging."
Quote from: Grayson Allen on December 09, 2015, 08:14:17 PM
I always found it was Real Chili that did the "plugging."
Always thought of it more as a cleanser.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 09, 2015, 07:58:36 PM
Doc seems like a good guy and great representative of the university, but he has to be one of the most overrated coaches of all time. Did nothing until he had 3 HOF's and an all-star PG in Boston. He has 3 all-stars in LAC and they just look undisciplined. Maybe it is Doc the GM sabotaged his team since I don't think anyone can win with a bench of JSmooth, Crawford and Austin.
So basically you're saying that Doc is overrated as a babysitter?
Quote from: Benny B on December 09, 2015, 08:32:59 PM
So basically you're saying that Doc is overrated as a babysitter?
As nearly every mother has had to say to her husband at one time or another:
"It's not 'babysitting' if it's your own child!"
Crean sucks
Quote from: naginiF on December 09, 2015, 08:09:13 PM
Totally agree. A man who is only one of 30 people in the world to hold his position and who has won a world championship is completely overrated. I think his dialog last night around having new components to the team and needing them to 'buy into' the team philosophy is completely covering up for his lack of ability.
However, I do agree that he is a great representative of the university and probably does wonders for both recruiting and donations.....we couldn't ask for a more public and well spoken advocate.
If they don't get KG and Allen, would Rivers have lasted another year/ever gotten a third gig? Since that year he has 3+ all stars on his team and he's the second highest paid coach in the NBA. I don't think I've ever looked and his teams and thought they were well coached. I'm not saying he is a terrible coach but between the salary, complete control as gm and the way he is viewed around the league I think he is really overrated.
I'm assuming Deandre is the 3rd all star you're referencing? He's an all star because of the other two. He's really not a very good basketball player.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on December 09, 2015, 09:21:46 PM
I'm assuming Deandre is the 3rd all star you're referencing? He's an all star because of the other two. He's really not a very good basketball player.
Really? Do you watch much of the Clippers? He might not be a good free throw shooter, but he is a monster on the glass.
Quote from: naginiF on December 09, 2015, 08:09:13 PM
Totally agree. A man who is only one of 30 people in the world to hold his position and who has won a world championship is completely overrated. I think his dialog last night around having new components to the team and needing them to 'buy into' the team philosophy is completely covering up for his lack of ability.
However, I do agree that he is a great representative of the university and probably does wonders for both recruiting and donations.....we couldn't ask for a more public and well spoken advocate.
This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read in here. I'm sorry.
I fought hard to ignore this thread until someone repeated this nonsense. What "lack of ability?" LOL be quiet until come with FACTS.
Doc Rivers IS NOT OVERRATTED as a coach. What in the world is this!? How many HOF players did Red Auerbach and Phil Jackson have!? What the heck does that mean?
He might actually end up being more known as HOF coach before he is done then he was a player and he was a great player.
The NBA is a 'players league' and Doc Rivers he is a 'players coach!' That is what coaching is in the NBA man or that is what a LARGE PART of it is!
Tell me, how much "coaching" do you think that Billy Donovan is really doing in OKC? He sure as heck is not coaching them like he did his kids on the Florida Gators I bet you that much!
Coaching in the NBA is more about understanding, communicating and mangaing egos and minutes and men and personalities and stars and the officials and at times...and not x's and o's. It is keeping things simple working with your assistans and knowing the league and tendencies and trends.
That Boston team did not need to be ruled with x's and o's all the time with Rondo and Pierce. But that does not mean Rivers didn't coach. You all need to understand what "coaching" means. Especially in the NBA before you make statements like this. Or qualify your statement with some substance.
It's just like some fans do not understand what managing in baseball is...
Stick to college Bball because you are clueless it seems to the NBA! Doc Rivers is one of top 5 coaches in the NBA! Ask any player to name the top 3 and he might be one of the names they mention. How in the world is he "Overratted?" Overatted how!?
HOW? Tell me how and I will drop it? You are clueless. Doc was a great leader as a PG at MU and a coach on the floor in the NBA. When you know the game you know the game. And lest your forget he was a great coach when he was with the Orlando Magic! Do your homework.
Stick to MU. You make a blanket statment and don't elaborate on how he is overratted so I have to post this and educate you? Wasn't the Clippers in the WC Finals last year? That team should not ahve been anywhere near the Finals with all the mess created by Donald Sterling. But Rivers got them there didn't he? Overratted....my foot.
What does having 3 Hall of Famers mean? Rivers solidfied their HOF status by coaching them to winning on his team being a great salesman! A coach is a salesman too you know. I hear how he talks about the players and treats them like men and I can imagine they respect that and play hard for him.
I bet you think Brad Stevens is a better coach and the Celtics only won because Thibidueau was on his staff don't you? Get outta here...lol No no no.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 09, 2015, 09:14:34 PM
If they don't get KG and Allen, would Rivers have lasted another year/ever gotten a third gig? Since that year he has 3+ all stars on his team and he's the second highest paid coach in the NBA. I don't think I've ever looked and his teams and thought they were well coached. I'm not saying he is a terrible coach but between the salary, complete control as gm and the way he is viewed around the league I think he is really overrated.
LOL this is a joke. Yeah right if the Bulls don't draft Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen and keep Collins over Phil Jackson they wouldnt have won the rings....lol.
Just hush with this silly hypothetical noise.
Stick to college bball. There ahve been teams with more talent then Allen and Garnett, and Pierce and Rondo that didn't win a title.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on December 10, 2015, 01:16:53 AM
This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read in here. I'm sorry.
I fought hard to ignore this thread until someone repeated this nonsense. What "lack of ability?" LOL be quiet until come with FACTS.
Doc Rivers IS NOT OVERRATTED as a coach. What in the world is this!? How many HOF players did Red Auerbach and Phil Jackson have!? What the heck does that mean?
He might actually end up being more known as HOF coach before he is done then he was a player and he was a great player.
The NBA is a 'players league' and Doc Rivers he is a 'players coach!' That is what coaching is in the NBA man or that is what a LARGE PART of it is!
Tell me, how much "coaching" do you think that Billy Donovan is really doing in OKC? He sure as heck is not coaching them like he did his kids on the Florida Gators I bet you that much!
Coaching in the NBA is more about understanding, communicating and mangaing egos and minutes and men and personalities and stars and the officials and at times...and not x's and o's. It is keeping things simple working with your assistans and knowing the league and tendencies and trends.
That Boston team did not need to be ruled with x's and o's all the time with Rondo and Pierce. But that does not mean Rivers didn't coach. You all need to understand what "coaching" means. Especially in the NBA before you make statements like this. Or qualify your statement with some substance.
It's just like some fans do not understand what managing in baseball is...
Stick to college Bball because you are clueless it seems to the NBA! Doc Rivers is one of top 5 coaches in the NBA! Ask any player to name the top 3 and he might be one of the names they mention. How in the world is he "Overratted?" Overatted how!?
HOW? Tell me how and I will drop it? You are clueless. Doc was a great leader as a PG at MU and a coach on the floor in the NBA. When you know the game you know the game. And lest your forget he was a great coach when he was with the Orlando Magic! Do your homework.
Stick to MU. You make a blanket statment and don't elaborate on how he is overratted so I have to post this and educate you? Wasn't the Clippers in the WC Finals last year? That team should not ahve been anywhere near the Finals with all the mess created by Donald Sterling. But Rivers got them there didn't he? Overratted....my foot.
What does having 3 Hall of Famers mean? Rivers solidfied their HOF status by coaching them to winning on his team being a great salesman! A coach is a salesman too you know. I hear how he talks about the players and treats them like men and I can imagine they respect that and play hard for him.
I bet you think Brad Stevens is a better coach and the Celtics only won because Thibidueau was on his staff don't you? Get outta here...lol No no no.
The first paragraph was sarcastic, the second one wasn't. I should've used teal.
Love the passion though!
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on December 10, 2015, 01:16:53 AM
This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read in here. I'm sorry.
I fought hard to ignore this thread until someone repeated this nonsense. What "lack of ability?" LOL be quiet until come with FACTS.
Doc Rivers IS NOT OVERRATTED as a coach. What in the world is this!? How many HOF players did Red Auerbach and Phil Jackson have!? What the heck does that mean?
He might actually end up being more known as HOF coach before he is done then he was a player and he was a great player.
The NBA is a 'players league' and Doc Rivers he is a 'players coach!' That is what coaching is in the NBA man or that is what a LARGE PART of it is!
Tell me, how much "coaching" do you think that Billy Donovan is really doing in OKC? He sure as heck is not coaching them like he did his kids on the Florida Gators I bet you that much!
Coaching in the NBA is more about understanding, communicating and mangaing egos and minutes and men and personalities and stars and the officials and at times...and not x's and o's. It is keeping things simple working with your assistans and knowing the league and tendencies and trends.
That Boston team did not need to be ruled with x's and o's all the time with Rondo and Pierce. But that does not mean Rivers didn't coach. You all need to understand what "coaching" means. Especially in the NBA before you make statements like this. Or qualify your statement with some substance.
It's just like some fans do not understand what managing in baseball is...
Stick to college Bball because you are clueless it seems to the NBA! Doc Rivers is one of top 5 coaches in the NBA! Ask any player to name the top 3 and he might be one of the names they mention. How in the world is he "Overratted?" Overatted how!?
HOW? Tell me how and I will drop it? You are clueless. Doc was a great leader as a PG at MU and a coach on the floor in the NBA. When you know the game you know the game. And lest your forget he was a great coach when he was with the Orlando Magic! Do your homework.
Stick to MU. You make a blanket statment and don't elaborate on how he is overratted so I have to post this and educate you? Wasn't the Clippers in the WC Finals last year? That team should not ahve been anywhere near the Finals with all the mess created by Donald Sterling. But Rivers got them there didn't he? Overratted....my foot.
What does having 3 Hall of Famers mean? Rivers solidfied their HOF status by coaching them to winning on his team being a great salesman! A coach is a salesman too you know. I hear how he talks about the players and treats them like men and I can imagine they respect that and play hard for him.
I bet you think Brad Stevens is a better coach and the Celtics only won because Thibidueau was on his staff don't you? Get outta here...lol No no no.
I think you quoted the wrong guy. Nagini was calling out Martyc for calling Doc overrated
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on December 10, 2015, 01:16:53 AM
This is the most ignorant comment I have ever read in here. I'm sorry.
I fought hard to ignore this thread until someone repeated this nonsense. What "lack of ability?" LOL be quiet until come with FACTS.
Doc Rivers IS NOT OVERRATTED as a coach. What in the world is this!? How many HOF players did Red Auerbach and Phil Jackson have!? What the heck does that mean?
He might actually end up being more known as HOF coach before he is done then he was a player and he was a great player.
The NBA is a 'players league' and Doc Rivers he is a 'players coach!' That is what coaching is in the NBA man or that is what a LARGE PART of it is!
Tell me, how much "coaching" do you think that Billy Donovan is really doing in OKC? He sure as heck is not coaching them like he did his kids on the Florida Gators I bet you that much!
Coaching in the NBA is more about understanding, communicating and mangaing egos and minutes and men and personalities and stars and the officials and at times...and not x's and o's. It is keeping things simple working with your assistans and knowing the league and tendencies and trends.
That Boston team did not need to be ruled with x's and o's all the time with Rondo and Pierce. But that does not mean Rivers didn't coach. You all need to understand what "coaching" means. Especially in the NBA before you make statements like this. Or qualify your statement with some substance.
It's just like some fans do not understand what managing in baseball is...
Stick to college Bball because you are clueless it seems to the NBA! Doc Rivers is one of top 5 coaches in the NBA! Ask any player to name the top 3 and he might be one of the names they mention. How in the world is he "Overratted?" Overatted how!?
HOW? Tell me how and I will drop it? You are clueless. Doc was a great leader as a PG at MU and a coach on the floor in the NBA. When you know the game you know the game. And lest your forget he was a great coach when he was with the Orlando Magic! Do your homework.
Stick to MU. You make a blanket statment and don't elaborate on how he is overratted so I have to post this and educate you? Wasn't the Clippers in the WC Finals last year? That team should not ahve been anywhere near the Finals with all the mess created by Donald Sterling. But Rivers got them there didn't he? Overratted....my foot.
What does having 3 Hall of Famers mean? Rivers solidfied their HOF status by coaching them to winning on his team being a great salesman! A coach is a salesman too you know. I hear how he talks about the players and treats them like men and I can imagine they respect that and play hard for him.
I bet you think Brad Stevens is a better coach and the Celtics only won because Thibidueau was on his staff don't you? Get outta here...lol No no no.
I don't think that I am going to be able to explain what Fin wrote, so I'll let someone more on your level explain it.
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on December 10, 2015, 01:23:01 AM
LOL this is a joke.
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on December 09, 2015, 07:58:36 PM
Doc seems like a good guy and great representative of the university, but he has to be one of the most overrated coaches of all time. Did nothing until he had 3 HOF's and an all-star PG in Boston. He has 3 all-stars in LAC and they just look undisciplined. Maybe it is Doc the GM sabotaged his team since I don't think anyone can win with a bench of JSmooth, Crawford and Austin.
I don't think he is overrated because an NBA's coaches job is to manage egos and minutes first and foremost. I mean there was a reason that he won at Boston when Thibs was there. Thibs is a fantastic basketball tactician, but struggled as a head coach because he didn't deal well with his players.
There are only five current head coaches with titles. (Rivers, Spoelstra, Kerr, Carlisle and Pop) Four of them had multiple players who will be sure fire HoFers on their teams. Kerr probably will too when all is said and done.
Here is the problem with Doc. He's a very good manager of people (think of the Phil Jackson mode), a decent tactician, but his problem in LA is he's an AWFUL GM/President of Basketball Ops. His personnel decisions have been poor and lead to some of the bad chemistry problems and thin bench the Clips are working with.
Anyone catch Reddick's little Milwaukee digin his post game interview
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 10, 2015, 07:46:29 PM
Anyone catch Reddick's little Milwaukee digin his post game interview
Nope. What'd he have to say?
Heard Doc's visit to Milwaukee was going to be "featured" on NBA on TNT tonight. Anybody catch it?
Quote from: wadesworld on December 10, 2015, 10:20:52 PM
Nope. What'd he have to say?
Heard Doc's visit to Milwaukee was going to be "featured" on NBA on TNT tonight. Anybody catch it?
The announcer opened the interview by saying you spent a year in Milwaukee and JJ put up his hands and interrupted him, said hold on, and proceeded to say he only spent he spent two months in Milwaukee. Acted as if it he could not wait to get out.
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 11, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
The announcer opened the interview by saying you spent a year in Milwaukee and JJ put up his hands and interrupted him, said hold on, and proceeded to say he only spent he spent two months in Milwaukee. Acted as if it he could not wait to get out.
Classic. Did they show his sweet ink?
Dude played chit when he was here, too. Adios m'fer and da horse ya rode in on too, hey?
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 11, 2015, 10:30:24 AM
The announcer opened the interview by saying you spent a year in Milwaukee and JJ put up his hands and interrupted him, said hold on, and proceeded to say he only spent he spent two months in Milwaukee. Acted as if it he could not wait to get out.
JJ was traded to the Bucks at their lowest point with Jennings and Ellis on the team, so part of me doesn't blame him. At the same time, I can never totally let it go how big of dbag he was once he got here.