Marquette's players combine for 165 total games played of D1 basketball.
Iowa's most experienced player, Adam Woodbury and least experienced starter, Peter Jok, combine for exactly 165 total games played of D1 basketball. (105 for Woodbury, 60 for Jok)
Included in Marquette's 165 games are 4 from Michael Mache, a walk on, 9 from Wally Ellenson (averaged 6.9 mpg at Minnesota), 13 from Luke Fischer at Indiana (averaged 10.0 mpg), 21 from JjJ's first year (averaged 13.5 mpg) and 31 from Sandy's first year (averaged 15.0 mpg). So 78 of the 165 games played by Marquette players were by players getting bench player minutes.
Of the 165 games played by Woodbury and Jok, only their freshmen seasons were off the bench. They have been starters for a combined 3 seasons worth of games.
I know people are tired of hearing it, but our team is YOUNG. Two players on the Iowa team have as much experience as our entire team and they were playing more significant minutes than most of our players. Add in the rest of their team? Forget about it.
This team will get better. It will be a painful process however.
I think this is why everyone wanted Wojo to have backup plans when he couldn't land a JUCO or grad transfer.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on November 20, 2015, 09:37:13 AM
I think this is why everyone wanted Wojo to have backup plans when he couldn't land a JUCO or grad transfer.
Are we playing for long term success or short term success?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2015, 10:06:03 AM
Are we playing for long term success or short term success?
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Neither
Quote from: bilsu on November 20, 2015, 10:10:48 AM
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Neither
With this young of a team, I would argue we are playing for long term success...sustained success....program builders, not just guys coming in for 1 or 2 years.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2015, 10:06:03 AM
Are we playing for long term success or short term success?
couldn't you argue that landing henry is just as much playing toward short term success as landing Jucos? I mean realistically he stays one or two years and that's as much of a short term plan as jucos.
Personally I prefer long term but it's nice to be competitive in the short term and ad some interesting characters to watch while we rebuild.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 20, 2015, 10:11:49 AM
With this young of a team, I would argue we are playing for long term success...sustained success....program builders, not just guys coming in for 1 or 2 years.
Huh? Wojo offered the following grad transfers this summer:
D.Lee
S.Miller
Gielo
D.Johnson
To me the stat of the game was Haanif's four live ball turnovers that turned into eight fast break points. That would not of happen with Derrick. We probably would of still lost the game, but by a more reasonable margin and everyone here would of been blaming Derrick, when the problem is much greater than the point guard.
Quote from: bilsu on November 20, 2015, 10:44:58 AM
To me the stat of the game was Haanif's four live ball turnovers that turned into eight fast break points. That would not of happen with Derrick. We probably would of still lost the game, but by a more reasonable margin and everyone here would of been blaming Derrick, when the problem is much greater than the point guard.
So what you're saying is this is yet another example of the loss being Derrick's fault!
He shouldn't have graduated!!
Quote from: MU82 on November 20, 2015, 10:48:12 AM
So what you're saying is this is yet another example of the loss being Derrick's fault!
He shouldn't have graduated!!
No I am saying he would of been a better alternative at point guard last night, but we still would of lost the game. The lack of offense last year was blamed on Derrick, but you can clearly see by watching this team the lack of offense is still here why Derrick is not. Derrick got blamed for the bad offense last year and now Derrick is gone and the offense is still bad.
Quote from: bilsu on November 20, 2015, 10:51:51 AM
No I am saying he would of been a better alternative at point guard last night, but we still would of lost the game. The lack of offense last year was blamed on Derrick, but you can clearly see by watching this team the lack of offense is still here why Derrick is not. Derrick got blamed for the bad offense last year and now Derrick is gone and the offense is still bad.
Derrick was a horrible shooter and poor/uncreative passer. He absolutely was a big problem when it came to helping us score points. But at least he did not turn the ball over and he played very good to great defense on the PG. The easy points our PGs are giving up by turning the ball over and not playing good defense are killing us right now.