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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: mug644 on November 12, 2015, 10:51:12 AM

Title: partial qualifier?
Post by: mug644 on November 12, 2015, 10:51:12 AM
I thought partial qualifiers no longer existed, but it seems that St. John's Marcus LoVett has been ruled a partial qualifier and can't play this season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14108495/marcus-lovett-st-john-red-storm-ruled-partial-qualifier-play-season (http://sports.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14108495/marcus-lovett-st-john-red-storm-ruled-partial-qualifier-play-season)

Can anybody explain something that I was sure went away not too long after DWade was a partial qualifier?
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 12, 2015, 11:18:35 AM
http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/08/28/understanding-initial-eligibility-waivers.htm

Seems like he got a "partial approval."  I just learned something too....
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: bilsu on November 12, 2015, 01:25:40 PM
I do not think the old Big East allowed partial qualifiers. I am not sure about the current Big East. I know it is not allowed in the Big 10.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: mug644 on November 12, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Quote from: bilsu on November 12, 2015, 01:25:40 PM
I do not think the old Big East allowed partial qualifiers. I am not sure about the current Big East. I know it is not allowed in the Big 10.

Thanks for the additional info, Goooo.

Bilsu, it seems like the new Big East allows partials (partial qualifier, as in the original ESPN link, or partial approvals, as in the second link), since we're talking about a St. John's player here.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: Herman Cain on November 12, 2015, 02:14:57 PM
This is probably a good development for the kid. Can spend a year getting his academic house in order. Hopefully he can still practice and develop his game over the course of the next year. Should put him in a good position going forward.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: bilsu on November 12, 2015, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: mug644 on November 12, 2015, 01:41:57 PM
Thanks for the additional info, Goooo.

Bilsu, it seems like the new Big East allows partials (partial qualifier, as in the original ESPN link, or partial approvals, as in the second link), since we're talking about a St. John's player here.
I thought about that, but it would not surprise me if St. John's new coach is not aware that partial qualifies are not allowed.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: GGGG on November 12, 2015, 04:15:56 PM
This must be a new rule because in recent years you either qualified...or you didn't.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: MomofMUltiples on November 12, 2015, 05:17:56 PM
There appears to be a similar situation at UW with Andy Van Vliet.  NCAA ruled that he was ineligible due to the fact that he enrolled in college "more than one year" after HS graduation.  The details are a little sketchy, but UW has appealed.  If they don't win the appeal, then Van Vliet will have to sit out this year and will have three remaining years of eligibility starting next year.  This could be under a completely different set of rules, though.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: GGGG on November 12, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on November 12, 2015, 05:17:56 PM
There appears to be a similar situation at UW with Andy Van Vliet.  NCAA ruled that he was ineligible due to the fact that he enrolled in college "more than one year" after HS graduation.  The details are a little sketchy, but UW has appealed.  If they don't win the appeal, then Van Vliet will have to sit out this year and will have three remaining years of eligibility starting next year.  This could be under a completely different set of rules, though.


Completely different circumstance.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 12, 2015, 07:35:54 PM
Ricky Ledo
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 12, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: bilsu on November 12, 2015, 01:25:40 PM
I do not think the old Big East allowed partial qualifiers. I am not sure about the current Big East. I know it is not allowed in the Big 10.

Suddenly Lovett's strange recruitment journey makes sense.
Title: Re: partial qualifier?
Post by: Jay Bee on November 12, 2015, 10:44:24 PM
Quote from: mug644 on November 12, 2015, 10:51:12 AM
I thought partial qualifiers no longer existed, but it seems that St. John's Marcus LoVett has been ruled a partial qualifier and can't play this season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14108495/marcus-lovett-st-john-red-storm-ruled-partial-qualifier-play-season (http://sports.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14108495/marcus-lovett-st-john-red-storm-ruled-partial-qualifier-play-season)

Can anybody explain something that I was sure went away not too long after DWade was a partial qualifier?

ESPN gets things wrong daily.

There is no such thing as a partial qualifier. You are a qualifier or nonqualifier.

There are partial waivers that can allow nonquals to get scholarship $, practice priv's, etc.

But.. partial qualifier? Doesn't exist.
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