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Title: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: keefe on November 10, 2015, 12:28:15 PM
40th Anniversary of the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ap-was-there-40-years-ago-edmund-fitzgerald-sinks/ar-CC9506?ocid=ansmsnnews11
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: jesmu84 on November 10, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/9vST6hVRj2A
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on November 10, 2015, 04:13:52 PM
That would be:
"The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead"
or
"Superior, they said, never gives up her dead"
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: keefe on November 10, 2015, 04:29:36 PM
Quote from: Grayson Allen on November 10, 2015, 04:13:52 PM
That would be:
"The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead"
or
"Superior, they said, never gives up her dead"

While you are correct it is not nearly as much fun as saying Gitche Gumee.
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: GGGG on November 10, 2015, 04:30:27 PM
Quote from: keefe on November 10, 2015, 04:29:36 PM
While you are correct it is not nearly as much fun as saying Gitche Gumee.

Furthermore, you didn't put quotes around the subject. 
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: Skitch on November 10, 2015, 05:57:36 PM
Two of the crew members were from my hometown. The local maritime museum has a pretty interesting display commemorating the event.

I thought this was a pretty good read. Written by the brother of the ship's cook.  One thing I never thought of is the part about the guys son being in high school when the song came out and everyone would just stare at him. Not only to lose your dad but then have to hear people sing about it.

http://m.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/40-years-later-poignant-memories-shroud-fitzgerald-wreck-b99610846z1-343326082.html
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: naginiF on November 10, 2015, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: Skitch on November 10, 2015, 05:57:36 PM
Two of the crew members were from my hometown. The local maritime museum has a pretty interesting display commemorating the event.

I thought this was a pretty good read. Written by the brother of the ship's cook.  One thing I never thought of is the part about the guys son being in high school when the song came out and everyone would just stare at him. Not only to lose your dad but then have to hear people sing about it.

http://m.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/40-years-later-poignant-memories-shroud-fitzgerald-wreck-b99610846z1-343326082.html
Awesome share!  thank you.
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 10, 2015, 07:56:38 PM
Witchy woman, see how high she flies, hey?
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: tower912 on November 10, 2015, 08:01:08 PM
My wife's grandfather was a structural engineer working on the construction of the Edmund Fitzgerald.   He died almost 10 years ago, but it was an interesting topic of discussion with him.   
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: GGGG on November 10, 2015, 08:45:20 PM
Quote from: Skitch on November 10, 2015, 05:57:36 PM
Two of the crew members were from my hometown. The local maritime museum has a pretty interesting display commemorating the event.

I thought this was a pretty good read. Written by the brother of the ship's cook.  One thing I never thought of is the part about the guys son being in high school when the song came out and everyone would just stare at him. Not only to lose your dad but then have to hear people sing about it.

http://m.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/40-years-later-poignant-memories-shroud-fitzgerald-wreck-b99610846z1-343326082.html


So this was the guy who said "fellas it's too rough to feed ya?"
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on November 10, 2015, 11:36:59 PM
Quote from: keefe on November 10, 2015, 04:29:36 PM
While you are correct it is not nearly as much fun as saying Gitche Gumee.
What can I say, I'm an advocate for quality.
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: keefe on November 10, 2015, 11:51:28 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 10, 2015, 08:45:20 PM

So this was the guy who said "fellas it's too rough to feed ya?"

The old cook was also the man who uttered the most poignant line of the ballad,

"Fellas, it's been good t'know ya..."
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 11, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
I'm a little confused. Obviously, a horrible tragedy...but does anybody think "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is a good song? It's unlistenable. Sometimes I think people pretend to like it because of the novelty. If you say you do like it, I'd ask when the last time you actually listened to it?
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: keefe on November 11, 2015, 01:05:07 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 11, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
I'm a little confused. Obviously, a horrible tragedy...but does anybody think "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is a good song? It's unlistenable. Sometimes I think people pretend to like it because of the novelty. If you say you do like it, I'd ask when the last time you actually listened to it?

Why is Barbra Streisand popular? Or Wayne Newton?

I actually never liked Gordon Lightfoot. But any man who can work "Gitche Gumee" into a song has my respect.
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: tower912 on November 11, 2015, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 11, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
I'm a little confused. Obviously, a horrible tragedy...but does anybody think "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is a good song? It's unlistenable. Sometimes I think people pretend to like it because of the novelty. If you say you do like it, I'd ask when the last time you actually listened to it?

Yesterday. 
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: GooooMarquette on November 11, 2015, 01:25:27 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 11, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
I'm a little confused. Obviously, a horrible tragedy...but does anybody think "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is a good song? It's unlistenable. Sometimes I think people pretend to like it because of the novelty. If you say you do like it, I'd ask when the last time you actually listened to it?

IMHO, it was an appropriate tribute for its time, but continuing to refer to this as a good song is kind of like continuing to refer to "I Want to Hold Your Hand" as hard rock.

That said, I do agree with Keefe's comment - kudos to Lightfoot for working Gitchee Gumee into a song!
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: GGGG on November 11, 2015, 01:32:55 PM
Gordon Lightfoot really doesn't wear well.  It's 70s folkish music that is trapped there.  "Sundown" was his best song anyway.
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: tower912 on November 11, 2015, 01:37:51 PM
http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/11/what_sank_the_edmund_fitzgeral.html#incart_std

Living in Michigan for most of my adult life, I had heard variations of all of these. 
Title: Re: Gitche Gumee it's said never gives up her dead
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on November 11, 2015, 02:11:20 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on November 11, 2015, 11:38:03 AM
I'm a little confused. Obviously, a horrible tragedy...but does anybody think "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is a good song? It's unlistenable. Sometimes I think people pretend to like it because of the novelty. If you say you do like it, I'd ask when the last time you actually listened to it?

yeah it's no Illinois Enema Bandit but its an OK song, I'm sure it always played bigger here than on the coasts
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