Young Marquette team gets another growth opportunity in 'secret scrimmage'
Marquette's men's basketball team traveled to Colorado Springs this weekend for a behind closed doors scrimmage with Stanford on Saturday afternoon at the U.S. Olympic Training Center.
Source: Young Marquette team gets another growth opportunity in 'secret scrimmage' (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/339134701.html)
General Answers from Coach, as we'd expect. Exciting stuff! Is it Friday the 13th yet?!?!!?
Translation:
They got their collective asses handed to 'em, ai na?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 31, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
Translation:
They got their collective asses handed to 'em, ai na?
"I think he liked our potential, liked our energy, but obviously our execution has got to get better."
Sure sounds like it...woof.
Young Marquette team gets another growth opportunity in 'secret scrimmage'Marquette's men's basketball team traveled to Colorado Springs this weekend for a behind closed doors scrimmage with Stanford on Saturday afternoon at the U.S. Olympic Training Center.
Source: Young Marquette team gets another growth opportunity in 'secret scrimmage' (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/339134701.html)
He obviously would say the same thing if they won by 20 or lost by 20 at this time of year.
High majors are a little different than Italian pro teams. If you are basing your season predictions off of the Italy trip...... recalculate.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 31, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
Translation:
They got their collective asses handed to 'em, ai na?
Forget about the dance, hey
People were expecting Wojo to come out and say, "We're where we'd like to be. We couldn't execute any better. I'm happy with where we are and just hope we can keep playing at this level the entire season" on October 31?
Quote from: MuMark on October 31, 2015, 07:01:12 PM
He obviously would say the same thing if they won by 20 or lost by 20 at this time of year.
+100.
Now for the good news.....Nova edged Maryland according to Goodman....all but assuring them a 1 seed!
Stone homesick yet, hey?
Yo, Big Daddy.....
Quote from: News: Ellenson dreams & commits to MU on October 31, 2015, 07:45:35 PM
Forget about the dance, hey
Did Johnny let his assistant coach finish off the 2nd half?
Quote from: MuMark on October 31, 2015, 08:29:41 PM
Now for the good news.....Nova edged Maryland according to Goodman....all but assuring them a 1 seed!
Teams already lining up to be the 8 or 9 in their bracket for the annual choke ;)
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on October 31, 2015, 10:13:33 PM
Did Johnny let his assistant coach finish off the 2nd half?
Only works against a coach with "emotional agility".
Quote from: real chili 83 on October 31, 2015, 08:55:47 PM
Yo, Big Daddy.....
He's pre-gaming for the Broncos/Packers game tonight...
I don't see anything in Wojo's comments that make me think it was a blowout loss. All he did was give coach speak for absolutely nothing. He gave us zero information which I think suits him just fine.
If we did get blown out by Stanford, that is not good. Because they are going to be BAD this year.
Definitely a blow out loss. I'm selling my season tickets. Damn it.
But seriously, I get the coach speak, but it just sounds so ominous. :(
Quote from: fjm on November 01, 2015, 01:35:52 PM
Definitely a blow out loss. I'm selling my season tickets. Damn it.
But seriously, I get the coach speak, but it just sounds so ominous. :(
By NCAA rules he can't say anything specifically about the results, and he's not going to come out here and say, "Tracy Carter played like a freshman and really sucked." He said essentially the only things he could possibly say with a closed door scrimmage.
R-E-L-A-x
Altitude definitely seemed to affect some of our team more than Stanford. Tough day shooting for what ever reason.
Really don't want to say much more other than this was not KSTATE .
Low post play was great Fish-HE combo is devastating.
Lots of little details to work on, but I saw a team that has the talent to make the dance.
Thank you, BD84. Ohhhhmmmmmmmm.
PS Floors in gym are spotless including the corners. They have one heck of a janitor.
lol :D
Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on November 01, 2015, 02:02:15 PM
PS Floors in gym are spotless including the corners. They have one heck of a janitor.
lol :D
In all seriousness, how are those facilities?
Quote from: Big Daddy 84 on November 01, 2015, 01:57:24 PM
R-E-L-A-x
Altitude definitely seemed to affect some of our team more than Stanford. Tough day shooting for what ever reason.
Really don't want to say much more other than this was not KSTATE .
Low post play was great Fish-HE combo is devastating.
Lots of little details to work on, but I saw a team that has the talent to make the dance.
Was it less painful from a scoring standpoint than the Virginia scrimmage?
@BSnowScout: General vibe coming from the Stanford v Marquette scrimmage (wasn't played as a 40 minute game) is that Henry Ellenson is the real deal
Quote from: MuMark on November 01, 2015, 07:12:50 PM
@BSnowScout: General vibe coming from the Stanford v Marquette scrimmage (wasn't played as a 40 minute game) is that Henry Ellenson is the real deal
I do love that Dawkins & Wojo are smart enough to think outside the box on these scrimmages.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on November 02, 2015, 08:26:06 AM
I do love that Dawkins & Wojo are smart enough to think outside the box on these scrimmages.
How did they think outside the box on this?
Quote from: mu03eng on November 02, 2015, 08:27:01 AM
How did they think outside the box on this?
NCAA sets no restrictions on the "secret" scrimmage. Coaches can do whatever they agree to do with them. Scenarios, timing, length, whatever. If Dawkins and Wojo want to play a series of five minute games where one team starts with a 1 point lead and everyone has four fouls for four hours, there's nothing stopping them from doing that.
If you see one of the scrimmages being talked about like it's a 40 minute game, then at least one of the coaches involved is wasting his team's time.
Big Papa, yo didn't bring da good karma to CO this weekend. Maybe ya should reconsider followin' the locals in person goin' forward, hey?
Blame it on the altitude, because you know, it's not like Milwaukee's elevation is ~500 feet higher than Stanford or something.
The guys didn't execute the way they should have against a veteran team in a pre-season exhibition game... so what?
Quote from: Benny B on November 02, 2015, 09:28:24 AM
Blame it on the altitude, because you know, it's not like Milwaukee's elevation is ~500 feet higher than Stanford or something.
The guys didn't execute the way they should have against a veteran team in a pre-season exhibition game... so what?
Yeah, if our guys were dragging and Stanford"s weren't it wasn't because of altitude. It was because their guys were in better shape.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 02, 2015, 09:19:30 AM
Big Papa, yo didn't bring da good karma to CO this weekend. Maybe ya should reconsider followin' the locals in person goin' forward, hey?
No more road trips for me. Unless I am traveling with the Louisville Condoms ... that is a program I would like to bring my road voodoo skills to.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 01, 2015, 01:43:22 PM
By NCAA rules he can't say anything specifically about the results, and he's not going to come out here and say, "Tracy Carter played like a freshman and really sucked." He said essentially the only things he could possibly say with a closed door scrimmage.
Actually he can. Rules allow schools to release results and stats.
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/660612620559454208
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 02, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
Actually he can. Rules allow schools to release results and stats.
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/660612620559454208
of course, the results may be rather obscure since teams don't necessarily do a full 40 minute scrimmage as they may do ituations instead.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 02, 2015, 12:08:19 PM
Actually he can. Rules allow schools to release results and stats.
https://twitter.com/goodmanespn/status/660612620559454208
I guess I don't understand how they can release results and stats when they're not allowed to keep score during the scrimmages.
Rules have obviously changed...they can keep score now.....or Nebraska is going to be in big trouble.....
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=210463852
Quote from: wadesworld on November 02, 2015, 12:13:46 PM
I guess I don't understand how they can release results and stats when they're not allowed to keep score during the scrimmages.
I think they have been allowed to keep score. I think Matt V. was wrong about that.
Quote from: MuMark on November 02, 2015, 12:21:34 PM
Rules have obviously changed...they can keep score now.....or Nebraska is going to be in big trouble.....
http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=210463852
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 02, 2015, 12:23:54 PM
I think they have been allowed to keep score. I think Matt V. was wrong about that.
Got it. Then I guess it was just Wojo not really giving a whole lot of information.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 02, 2015, 12:23:54 PM
I think they have been allowed to keep score. I think Matt V. was wrong about that.
I think the crux here is that the coaches/schools are permitted to decide what is/isn't released to the public - be it score, stats, results, narratives, etc.
So even though both sides likely kept a score book (it's virtually impossible when both teams have someone logging notes/stats during the scrimmage), Wojo and Dawkins likely agreed beforehand not to release, regardless of the results.
Quote from: chapman on November 01, 2015, 12:05:39 AM
Teams already lining up to be the 8 or 9 in their bracket for the annual choke ;)
It was parents weekend at my son's college In Pennsylvania so the wife and I went down this past weekend. Met some other parents at breakfast on Saturday and we got to talking. It turns out the father I was talking to was a Villanova alum, So we're chatting and he compliments Marquette on the basketball program.
So I said, "Heck, you guys have been great the last couple years. Well, at least until the NCAA tournament starts, anyway."
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 02, 2015, 12:23:54 PM
I think they have been allowed to keep score. I think Matt V. was wrong about that.
I'm sure it's just like when my boys were playing U6-U8 sports. You weren't supposed to keep score, but at the end they always knew who won.
Quote from: CTWarrior on November 02, 2015, 02:28:42 PM
It was parents weekend at my son's college In Pennsylvania so the wife and I went down this past weekend. Met some other parents at breakfast on Saturday and we got to talking. It turns out the father I was talking to was a Villanova alum, So we're chatting and he compliments Marquette on the basketball program.
So I said, "Heck, you guys have been great the last couple years. Well, at least until the NCAA tournament starts, anyway."
Boom! And another rivalry ignited.
Quote from: Benny B on November 02, 2015, 01:57:04 PM
So even though both sides likely kept a score book (it's virtually impossible when both teams have someone logging notes/stats during the scrimmage), Wojo and Dawkins likely agreed beforehand not to release, regardless of the results.
Spoke with a co-worker who is very close with one of the players. She said he told her that "MU won".
Quote from: NotAnAlum on November 03, 2015, 08:12:55 PM
Spoke with a co-worker who is very close with one of the players. She said he told her that "MU won".
Of course Wally said that. He's not going to go, "yeah... Henry got his ass kicked, mom."
Quote from: tower912 on October 31, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
High majors are a little different than Italian pro teams. If you are basing your season predictions off of the Italy trip...... recalculate.
Generally speaking, Italian pro teams could wipe the floor with high major college teams. Now Icelandic pro teams, ad hoc Italian teams made up of whoever was in town at that time and felt like playing, and Lithuanian school teams are good but beatable competition.
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on November 04, 2015, 02:35:03 PM
Generally speaking, Italian pro teams could wipe the floor with high major college teams. Now Icelandic pro teams, ad hoc Italian teams made up of whoever was in town at that time and felt like playing, and Lithuanian school teams are good but beatable competition.
Maybe Tower was talking about Italians on pro teams.
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on November 04, 2015, 02:35:03 PM
Generally speaking, Italian pro teams could wipe the floor with high major college teams. Now Icelandic pro teams, ad hoc Italian teams made up of whoever was in town at that time and felt like playing, and Lithuanian school teams are good but beatable competition.
Perhaps. The ones MU played, however, were not good.
Quote from: tower912 on November 05, 2015, 11:08:24 AM
Perhaps. The ones MU played, however, were not good.
My point was that MU didn't play Italian league pro teams. The Icelandic pro team was the only pro team that they met.
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on November 05, 2015, 08:03:32 PM
My point was that MU didn't play Italian league pro teams. The Icelandic pro team was the only pro team that they met.
SAM Basket Massagno was the team Jake Thomas played for last season. I think Chris Grimm played for them, too?