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Tan Tommy is losing it.
Will he still be in Bloomington in April?
I am confident the ghosts of Hoosier Hoops Past will see through this exercise for the charade that it truly is and cement the Bronze Beast's reputation as a charlatan among the IU greats.
Who will ever forget Tanned Tommy's clumsy attempt to greet Bobby Knight as some sort of equal in a form of symbolic torch passing? Knight's disdain for Crean was palpable. What is genuinely pathetic is that the Bronze Beast of Bloomington really doesn't get it.
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The highlight there is Dan Shulman trying to direct Crean in a different direction.
Quote from: Heisenberg on October 28, 2015, 04:51:50 PM
Tan Tommy is losing it.
Will he still be in Bloomington in April?
You predicted 2 years ago he was out, and last year he was out. What's your guess?
:)
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 28, 2015, 11:25:41 PM
You predicted 2 years ago he was out, and last year he was out. What's your guess?
:)
I keep thinking Indiana wants to be good. For that to happen he has to go.
So I predict he got this year. And if not I predict he's out next year.
I'm kind of curious why this is even a story right now....the letters were written in August and was reported in August.
Virginia Tech doesn't have a storied history to live up to. It doesn't have legends whose legacy is being smeared. Now what would be funny is if when Crean leaves IU, the Hoosiers hire Buzz. For the high moral character he would bring to restore the program.
Quote from: Heisenberg on October 29, 2015, 04:02:28 AM
I keep thinking Indiana wants to be good. For that to happen he has to go.
So I predict he got this year. And if not I predict he's out next year.
Ballsy prediction......
Quote from: keefe on October 28, 2015, 09:09:06 PM
I am confident the ghosts of Hoosier Hoops Past will see through this exercise for the charade that it truly is and cement the Bronze Beast's reputation as a charlatan among the IU greats.
Who will ever forget Tanned Tommy's clumsy attempt to greet Bobby Knight as some sort of equal in a form of symbolic torch passing? Knight's disdain for Crean was palpable. What is genuinely pathetic is that the Bronze Beast of Bloomington really doesn't get it.
(http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/wp-content/gallery/iu-vs-georgia-crean-meets-knight/iu_bb_knight1719.jpg)
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Don't know what worst, the Cost Cutters' haircut or the chit eatin' grin? The schmuck has made a fortune blowin' his own horn and pullin' the chit over people's eyes, hey?
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on October 28, 2015, 10:51:03 PM
The highlight there is Dan Shulman trying to direct Crean in a different direction.
Schulman cleared a hole for Knight like he was Jerry Kramer in the Ice Bowl.
What I love is Tanned Tommy's goofy expression at the end...it's like he just got his first handjob from Mary Jane Rottencrotch behind her parent's garage.
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Quote from: Heisenberg on October 29, 2015, 04:02:28 AM
I keep thinking Indiana wants to be good. For that to happen he has to go.
So I predict he got this year. And if not I predict he's out next year.
Well, one year you are going to be right.
I'd argue the years of being great are over. They are good, they just aren't great. They weren't great at the end of Knight's tenure either and haven't been great in the 20 years since.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 29, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
Well, one year you are going to be right.
I'd argue the years of being great are over. They are good, they just aren't great. They weren't great at the end of Knight's tenure either and haven't been great in the 20 years since.
It takes a pretty great team to go to the National Title game.
Quote from: wadesworld on October 30, 2015, 06:46:56 AM
It takes a pretty great team to go to the National Title game.
You mean...a team with not one but TWO top five lottery NBA draft choices???
A squad thusly gifted should easily reach that last evening of the college basketball season. It is amazing that a team with Zeller and Oladipo would only reach the Title Game. Frankly, I would think that level of talent should be cutting down the nets.
Quote from: keefe on October 30, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
You mean...a team with not one but TWO top five lottery NBA draft choices???
A squad thusly gifted should easily reach that last evening of the college basketball season. It is amazing that a team with Zeller and Oladipo would only reach the Title Game. Frankly, I would think that level of talent should be cutting down the nets.
They did. At home. After a loss.
Quote from: keefe on October 30, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
You mean...a team with not one but TWO top five lottery NBA draft choices???
A squad thusly gifted should easily reach that last evening of the college basketball season. It is amazing that a team with Zeller and Oladipo would only reach the Title Game. Frankly, I would think that level of talent should be cutting down the nets.
No, I meant that Indiana actually has been great in the last 20 years given the fact that in the last 20 years they have played in a National Title game. But I forgot, we can't count that year because they had a coach that was coaching players he inherited from the previous coach. So you can't count it because the first coach couldn't get the job done with his kids and the 2nd coach wasn't using his own kids to get there. The logic of Chicos...anything to defend his boyfriend.
Quote from: jesmu84 on October 30, 2015, 11:36:01 AM
They did. At home. After a loss.
Outstanding!
Wonderful gesture for Crean to use cancer patients to punish his players by demanding they visit at 6:30 a.m.
What is lesson there?
Next thing you know, he'll wheel out a helpless, motionless, speechless grown man and use him as a prop for a post game press conference. Only after a win, of course.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 30, 2015, 06:58:55 PM
Next thing you know, he'll wheel out a helpless, motionless, speechless grown man and use him as a prop for a post game press conference. Only after a win, of course.
One of the single most uncomfortable and strange moments in sports...
Good Lord but Crean is completely clueless...
https://www.youtube.com/v/TsfELG98G18
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Quote from: wadesworld on October 30, 2015, 06:46:56 AM
It takes a pretty great team to go to the National Title game.
Not always. It takes a hot team, or a lucky team, or a bit of both.
Butler...twice.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 31, 2015, 10:36:21 AM
Not always. It takes a hot team, or a lucky team, or a bit of both.
Butler...twice.
Those Butler squads were great teams and successful because they were exceptionally well coached. Stevens' performance in those seasons epitomized the essence of basketball leadership - recruiting to a plan, melding 12 individuals into one, meticulous game planning which produced straightforward and effective strategies, and the ability to adjust to shifting flows within a game.
More importantly, Stevens did all of this with dignity and integrity.
Compare that with Tanned Tommy. He has recruited far better talent to Bloomington than Stevens ever had at Butler. And yet he has never reached the final night because his teams never gel as a unit. He compounds that lack of cohesiveness by manufacturing absurdly complex game plans which inhibit his ability to make in-game adjustments. Sprinkle in his lack of class and you have a tragic comedy playing out annually.
What I don't get is how you cite Butler as an example of luck because I see Stevens' performance as a sterling illustration of what one would want in a head coach.
But what is truly strange to me is how you try to cheapen or minimize the achievement of a Brad Stevens while championing the magnificence of a Tom Crean. Butler got to the NCAA Championship Game because of Brad Stevens. Indiana will never get there because of Tanned Tommy.
I have to ask: is the Bronze Beast paying you to defend him on Scoop and the IU Board? Either that or he has pictures of you with farm animals.
No, they were good teams with great runs. They won their first two tournament games by a combined 3 points. We aren't even having this conversation if one basket difference happens. Teams don't suddenly become "great" because of one basket, and that's all it takes.
They had two great runs, that does not make it a great team. As Al McGuire stated, his championship team was not great, not even close to his best teams, but that one had the run to win it all. Let's not confuse things.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 31, 2015, 12:37:18 PM
No, they were good teams with great runs. They won their first two tournament games by a combined 3 points. We aren't even having this conversation if one basket difference happens. Teams don't suddenly become "great" because of one basket, and that's all it takes.
They had two great runs, that does not make it a great team. As Al McGuire stated, his championship team was not great, not even close to his best teams, but that one had the run to win it all. Let's not confuse things.
You are worse than the Clintons...
Quote from: keefe on October 31, 2015, 12:43:44 PM
You are worse than the Clintons...
Because I use Al McGuire's own statements? LOL.
Since you've done nothing but call Hillary a liar the last few months, I'm disappointed in your assault. To each their own.
Have a great day
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 31, 2015, 12:47:31 PM
Because I use Al McGuire's own statements? LOL.
Since you've done nothing but call Hillary a liar the last few months, I'm disappointed in your assault. To each their own.
Have a great day
Oh, please. Don't put words in my mouth and stop playing victim.
Let me repeat my point: You minimize Steven's accomplishments at Butler by suggesting it was luck in an obtuse defense of Tanned Tommy's lack of similar success.
There is a reason so many of the IU Faithful are openly calling for the Bronze Beast's head while also wishing for a Stevens hire.
Quote from: keefe on October 31, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
Oh, please. Don't put words in my mouth and stop playing victim.
Let me repeat my point: You minimize Steven's accomplishments at Butler by suggesting it was luck in an obtuse defense of Tanned Tommy's lack of similar success.
There is a reason so many of the IU Faithful are openly calling for the Bronze Beast's head while also wishing for a Stevens hire.
I am not comparing Stevens to Tom Crean at all. Where do you get that from?
I said they went on a great run, they were not a great team. I would argue the first final team they had was considerably better than the second. The second team lost to the likes of Valpo, Youngstown State, Wright State...ended up #2 seed in the Horizon League. They were a good team, that went on a great run. There is a difference in my opinion.
This has nothing to do with Crean, why are you making it about him?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 31, 2015, 01:12:01 PM
I am not comparing Stevens to Tom Crean at all. Where do you get that from?
I said they went on a great run, they were not a great team. I would argue the first final team they had was considerably better than the second. The second team lost to the likes of Valpo, Youngstown State, Wright State...ended up #2 seed in the Horizon League. They were a good team, that went on a great run. There is a difference in my opinion.
This has nothing to do with Crean, why are you making it about him?
If you truly think a team that made back to back National Titles was anything less than great then you are far less intelligent than you have made it clear that you would like everyone in the world to think.
Did Stevens (or anybody, ever) punish his players by making them visit handicapped people and then brag about it to the media? Asking for a friend.
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on October 31, 2015, 11:16:02 PM
Did Stevens (or anybody, ever) punish his players by making them visit handicapped people and then brag about it to the media? Asking for a friend.
Is it punishment to make someone visit people?
By the way, the family asked for that....it's funny how the details get lost in the hatred.
At any rate, carry on. The predictions over the years here have been epic.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 01, 2015, 10:54:34 AM
Is it punishment to make someone visit people?
By the way, the family asked for that....it's funny how the details get lost in the hatred.
At any rate, carry on. The predictions over the years here have been epic.
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