I know it's preseason, and I know it's just one vote but I can't be the only one who's excited about just seeing Marquette's name on this list again!
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/
Counted 6 Big East teams getting votes, but only 2 Big East teams ranked in the preseason Top 25.
Belmont got twice as many votes as we did.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on October 15, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
Belmont got twice as many votes as we did.
We're screwed.
In all seriousness, we could find ourselves ranked real quickly if we can get off to a 3-0 start. Wins over Belmont and Iowa in the first two games would be deserving of a top 25 spot. The first poll of the season will be released after the Belmont game, and the 2nd poll will be released between the Iowa game and the LSU game. We definitely have an early opportunity in front of us over the first few weeks.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on October 15, 2015, 12:08:24 PM
We're screwed.
In all seriousness, we could find ourselves ranked real quickly if we can get off to a 3-0 start. Wins over Belmont and Iowa in the first two games would be deserving of a top 25 spot. The first poll of the season will be released after the Belmont game, and the 2nd poll will be released between the Iowa game and the LSU game. We definitely have an early opportunity in front of us over the first few weeks.
3-0 would get us a lot more votes, though home wins against teams also receiving may not get us ranked. Now if we started 5-0...
Must have been Jeter, who else has ties to us?
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on October 15, 2015, 12:08:24 PM
We're screwed.
In all seriousness, we could find ourselves ranked real quickly if we can get off to a 3-0 start. Wins over Belmont and Iowa in the first two games would be deserving of a top 25 spot. The first poll of the season will be released after the Belmont game, and the 2nd poll will be released between the Iowa game and the LSU game. We definitely have an early opportunity in front of us over the first few weeks.
I'm not sure if I'd believe that we'd be ranked unless there were some big upsets by then. Though I do think beating Iowa and Belmont could get us up by Michigan and Louisville in the polls.
Quote from: Blueprint on October 15, 2015, 12:17:26 PM
Must have been Jeter, who else has ties to us?
Does Buzz have a vote?
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 15, 2015, 12:17:03 PM
3-0 would get us a lot more votes, though home wins against teams also receiving may not get us ranked. Now if we started 5-0...
Beating Belmont and Iowa wouldn't prove we're a top 25 team. But there's usually a lot of early season movement toward the bottom of the rankings (18-25 range). Obviously, most teams are playing cupcakes the first week of the season, so I think it'd be enough to get us into the 22-25 range. 5-0? Probably would get us up near 15 I'd imagine. But that's unlikely, IMO.
Quote from: Blueprint on October 15, 2015, 12:17:26 PM
Must have been Jeter, who else has ties to us?
I'd guess JTIII, since his team was following us around Italy, and he probably watched lots of video of MU to scout the other teams.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on October 15, 2015, 12:26:57 PM
I'd guess JTIII, since his team was following us around Italy, and he probably watched lots of video of MU to scout the other teams.
He didn't vote, McDermott voted so it's probably him.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on October 15, 2015, 12:08:24 PM
We're screwed.
In all seriousness, we could find ourselves ranked real quickly if we can get off to a 3-0 start. Wins over Belmont and Iowa in the first two games would be deserving of a top 25 spot. The first poll of the season will be released after the Belmont game, and the 2nd poll will be released between the Iowa game and the LSU game. We definitely have an early opportunity in front of us over the first few weeks.
Just curious, why would home wins against two unranked teams make us deserving of a Top 25 spot?
Quote from: 79Warrior on October 15, 2015, 01:16:12 PM
Just curious, why would home wins against two unranked teams make us deserving of a Top 25 spot?
Because it's one win over a top 35 team, and another over a top 75 (?) team, which would be far more impressive than what most teams have accomplished to that point.
I'm not saying we'd be "deserving" but there is usually fluctuation at the beginning of the season. We have a far more challenging slate over our first 5 games than most teams, so if we win them then we would probably be ranked. After that, the rest of our non conference games (minus Wisconsin) are basically guaranteed wins. Our non-con schedule is frontloaded, which is relatively uncommon.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 15, 2015, 12:31:53 PM
He didn't vote, McDermott voted so it's probably him.
I'm thinking it's him too: Greg McDermott, Creighton
Quote from: 79Warrior on October 15, 2015, 01:16:12 PM
Just curious, why would home wins against two unranked teams make us deserving of a Top 25 spot?
Agreed. The thing with Belmont is they have 2 votes, which likely means one person on the panel put them at #24. Beating them won't get much attention, especially at home. Iowa might draw a little more because of the Gavitt Games, but landing on FS1 instead of ESPN won't help. Also, like Belmont, Iowa's ranking is likely the actions of maybe 2-3 coaches, or possibly just one guy that had them at 18.
I'm not too worried about being ranked, but I do think it would take a 5-0 start to get there. On the plus side, if we start 5-0, we will also start 9-0. No chance we lose any of those games between NYC and Madison.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 15, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
I know it's preseason, and I know it's just one vote but I can't be the only one who's excited about just seeing Marquette's name on this list again!
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/
Proof that there is intelligent life in the universe.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on October 15, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
Belmont got twice as many votes as we did.
Just not everywhere.
Wisconsin 17th? They might come up with a very good team after suffering very big losses, but they should have to show some indication of it first.
Quote from: willie warrior on October 15, 2015, 08:02:42 PM
The downhome phony cowboy.
Willie, you're getting crabby again. Grab a Mazos burger.
Soooooo.......
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on October 15, 2015, 06:22:26 PM
Wisconsin 17th? They might come up with a very good team after suffering very big losses, but they should have to show some indication of it first.
Five Big Ten teams in the top 25. If you're looking at it from the "Bo always finishes fourth or better" POV, you have to have them in there.
Quote from: Blueprint on June 22, 1970, 02:04:06 PM
Must have been Jeter, who else has ties to us?
GM might want to help the BE rankings.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 15, 2015, 12:31:53 PM
He didn't vote, McDermott voted so it's probably him.
Details!
(I guess I should click on links before commenting)
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on October 15, 2015, 01:38:39 PM
Because it's one win over a top 35 team, and another over a top 75 (?) team, which would be far more impressive than what most teams have accomplished to that point.
I'm not saying we'd be "deserving" but there is usually fluctuation at the beginning of the season. We have a far more challenging slate over our first 5 games than most teams, so if we win them then we would probably be ranked. After that, the rest of our non conference games (minus Wisconsin) are basically guaranteed wins. Our non-con schedule is frontloaded, which is relatively uncommon.
That's just not the way rankings work in college basketball. We could win 3 games, but if no one ahead of us loses, even if they are just to cupcakes, we aren't moving up. Higher ranked teams must lose, and we must win. You need both if you aren't playing a top 25 team.
Quote from: gomuhilltoppers on October 16, 2015, 12:45:48 PM
That's just not the way rankings work in college basketball. We could win 3 games, but if no one ahead of us loses, even if they are just to cupcakes, we aren't moving up. Higher ranked teams must lose, and we must win. You need both if you aren't playing a top 25 team.
Eh. I respectfully disagree. Hopefully we'll get to find out in 5 weeks.
Apart from the fact that rankings are meaningless (especially before the season even starts), I hope Marquette is under appreciated by the rest of the basketball world. At least for a while yet.
Yes, there's tremendous potential. But it's still a young, untested team. The last thing they need is hearing they're awesome before they've played a single Big East game. I'd rather see MU play with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.
Quote from: Marcus92 on October 16, 2015, 01:22:02 PM
Apart from the fact that rankings are meaningless (especially before the season even starts), I hope Marquette is under appreciated by the rest of the basketball world. At least for a while yet.
Yes, there's tremendous potential. But it's still a young, untested team. The last thing they need is hearing they're awesome before they've played a single Big East game. I'd rather see MU play with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.
I hope they aren't underappreciated when it comes to seeding...
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 16, 2015, 02:25:30 PM
I hope they aren't underappreciated when it comes to seeding...
As long as it still means getting a seed, I'll take underappreciated this season.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on October 15, 2015, 12:31:53 PM
He didn't vote, McDermott voted so it's probably him.
If the coaches were actually the ones doing the voting, then it might have been GMcD... however, keep in mind that the assistants (and sometimes the SIDs) are typically the ones filling out the ballots. That said, it's highly unlikely that a BE coach, who was part of the consensus that pegged MU for a 7th-place finish in conference, slotted MU at #25. I think it has to be someone much closer to home... close enough to be buying into the potential impact of HE.
My guess: it was someone from Jeter's staff.