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Title: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: keefe on August 24, 2015, 02:22:09 PM
I always despised Sapp but Carter really dishonored himself. What an idiot.

https://www.youtube.com/v/tNVN-B_2vno
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: jesmu84 on August 24, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
It's really no big deal. He just apologized. Of course, only after people found the video. And, of course, the NFL didn't do much about it either.
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: StillAWarrior on August 24, 2015, 04:32:18 PM
This morning, Golic made a good point about this.  He suggested that perhaps two guys who have made bad decisions but still made it into the HOF might not be the best people to deliver the "actions have consequences" speech.  Sapp illustrated this pretty well when he said that failing his drug test turned into a "two hour and forty-five minute nightmare."  Wow.  It must have been horrible.  I can think of a number of guys who would be better for this talk.  I wonder if Lawrence Phillips could get a weekend pass.  Having a couple of HOF'ers up there just seems to kind of undermine the message that they were (supposedly) trying to pass on.
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 24, 2015, 05:06:38 PM
Put those 2 jokers on a church pulpit with Bumstead and the 3 stooges could deliver quite the inspirational sermon, ai na?
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: keefe on August 24, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on August 24, 2015, 05:06:38 PM
Put those 2 jokers on a church pulpit with Bumstead and the 3 stooges could deliver quite the inspirational sermon, ai na?

Actually, you are correct, Doc. The Bronze Beast of Boozin' Bloomington is a master of shrugging off responsibility and passing the buck. Just listen to that sonuvabitch's presser after yet another defeat...
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: brandx on August 24, 2015, 11:24:18 PM
Having a "fall guy" is SOP for the wealthy and powerful. Nixon didn't go down because he had a fall guy - it was because he ran out of them.
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: keefe on August 25, 2015, 01:42:41 AM
Quote from: brandx on August 24, 2015, 11:24:18 PM
Having a "fall guy" is SOP for the wealthy and powerful. Nixon didn't go down because he had a fall guy - it was because he ran out of them.

So Huma will be Hillary's "Fall Gal?"
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: WarriorInNYC on August 25, 2015, 07:55:01 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on August 24, 2015, 02:55:27 PM
It's really no big deal. He just apologized. Of course, only after people found the video. And, of course, the NFL didn't do much about it either.

Another misstep in the NFL's terrible PR campaign.  A year after many players in the news for negative reasons (Ray Rice, domestic violence in general, Aaron Hernandez, etc.), they have a video on their own website, where a hall of famer is telling rookies to have a fall guy.

Reminds me of when they started fining players for the helmet to helmet hits or hitting too hard in general and they were still selling on their store highlights of massive hits, many of which, were now illegal and finable.
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: jesmu84 on August 25, 2015, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: WarriorInNYC on August 25, 2015, 07:55:01 AM
Another misstep in the NFL's terrible PR campaign.  A year after many players in the news for negative reasons (Ray Rice, domestic violence in general, Aaron Hernandez, etc.), they have a video on their own website, where a hall of famer is telling rookies to have a fall guy.

Reminds me of when they started fining players for the helmet to helmet hits or hitting too hard in general and they were still selling on their store highlights of massive hits, many of which, were now illegal and finable.

Ha. The Buffalo Bills were just talking about signing Ray Rice. A number of players on their team said (paraphrase) "As long as he can help us win, that's all we care about."
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: brandx on August 25, 2015, 12:30:18 PM
Quote from: keefe on August 25, 2015, 01:42:41 AM
So Huma will be Hillary's "Fall Gal?"

If needed, yes.

Just as all other candidates have their own fall guys waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: GGGG on August 25, 2015, 12:33:48 PM
Quote from: WarriorInNYC on August 25, 2015, 07:55:01 AM
Another misstep in the NFL's terrible PR campaign.  A year after many players in the news for negative reasons (Ray Rice, domestic violence in general, Aaron Hernandez, etc.), they have a video on their own website, where a hall of famer is telling rookies to have a fall guy.


The NFL is so flippin' successful from a $$ point of view, that I don't think it takes a long-term point of view at all with its PR.  Everything is short-term and crisis related.

This is what organizations look like when they think they are untouchable. 
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: Sheriff on August 25, 2015, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: brandx on August 25, 2015, 12:30:18 PM
If needed, yes.

Just as all other candidates have their own fall guys waiting in the wings.

You mean like Obama and Tony Rezko?
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: chapman on August 26, 2015, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: StillAWarrior on August 24, 2015, 04:32:18 PM
This morning, Golic made a good point about this.  He suggested that perhaps two guys who have made bad decisions but still made it into the HOF might not be the best people to deliver the "actions have consequences" speech.  Sapp illustrated this pretty well when he said that failing his drug test turned into a "two hour and forty-five minute nightmare."  Wow.  It must have been horrible.  I can think of a number of guys who would be better for this talk.  I wonder if Lawrence Phillips could get a weekend pass.  Having a couple of HOF'ers up there just seems to kind of undermine the message that they were (supposedly) trying to pass on.


How about Maurice Clarett?  Just found this one on ESPN.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13509897/how-former-ohio-state-star-maurice-clarett-became-accidental-athlete-whisperer
Title: Re: Chris Carter and Warren Sapp offer "Life Lessons"
Post by: brandx on August 26, 2015, 01:48:51 PM
Quote from: Sheriff on August 25, 2015, 12:55:17 PM
You mean like Obama and Tony Rezko?

Yes. And just like Bush and all the current R candidates. There is always someone who will take the fall for the bosses failures.

In business as well as politics.
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