I know this was posted in a different link, but I felt it should be noted in a separate one. Definition of Irony: official papers received by MU as the last game was being played today.
It is all a conspiracy, ai na!
You've got to wonder what would have happened to MU if they had just let Cheetham play for all the games on the trip. I mean these are not NCAA games. Usually if you play with a player who might be ineligible in game you run the risk of having the game declared a forfeit. But these games don't count in the first place. Look at it another way. If you are considering red shirting and you play in these games can you not longer do an elective red shirt? Why not, these games don't count, they're really nothing more than practice. If MU had an open gym scrimmage game against a bunch of post college players from the MKE area could Cheetham have played in that?
I guess I don't get why the NCAA had any say beyond letting MU go on the trip in the first place.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on August 19, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
You've got to wonder what would have happened to MU if they had just let Cheetham play for all the games on the trip. I mean these are not NCAA games. Usually if you play with a player who might be ineligible in game you run the risk of having the game declared a forfeit. But these games don't count in the first place. Look at it another way. If you are considering red shirting and you play in these games can you not longer do an elective red shirt? Why not, these games don't count, they're really nothing more than practice. If MU had an open gym scrimmage game against a bunch of post college players from the MKE area could Cheetham have played in that?
I guess I don't get why the NCAA had any say beyond letting MU go on the trip in the first place.
My guess is that the NCAA doesn't see it that way. They see these games more like exhibition games, and I assume he would've been held out of them too. I do see your point, though.
10 days too late. Ah, well.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on August 19, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
You've got to wonder what would have happened to MU if they had just let Cheetham play for all the games on the trip. I mean these are not NCAA games. Usually if you play with a player who might be ineligible in game you run the risk of having the game declared a forfeit. But these games don't count in the first place. Look at it another way. If you are considering red shirting and you play in these games can you not longer do an elective red shirt? Why not, these games don't count, they're really nothing more than practice. If MU had an open gym scrimmage game against a bunch of post college players from the MKE area could Cheetham have played in that?
I guess I don't get why the NCAA had any say beyond letting MU go on the trip in the first place.
Good points, but I would guess these games would be "forfeited" and then he would have to sit additional "real" games as well.
Falls into the category of crap happens. Happy Haanif is cleared. Happy he made the trip and participated in every way except the game. Happy that we'll be even better once he dons the #25.
Quote from: tower912 on August 19, 2015, 03:33:10 PM
10 days too late. Ah, well.
Middle of August prior to HC's Freshmen year---I think he'll be alright.
Great he was able to go to Italy.
Quote from: We R Final Four on August 19, 2015, 05:01:21 PM
Middle of August prior to HC's Freshmen year---I think he'll be alright.
Great he was able to go to Italy.
Yup. In the big picture, mouse nuts.
Quote from: NotAnAlum on August 19, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
You've got to wonder what would have happened to MU if they had just let Cheetham play for all the games on the trip. I mean these are not NCAA games. Usually if you play with a player who might be ineligible in game you run the risk of having the game declared a forfeit. But these games don't count in the first place. Look at it another way. If you are considering red shirting and you play in these games can you not longer do an elective red shirt? Why not, these games don't count, they're really nothing more than practice. If MU had an open gym scrimmage game against a bunch of post college players from the MKE area could Cheetham have played in that?
I guess I don't get why the NCAA had any say beyond letting MU go on the trip in the first place.
My guess is it would be analogous to Juan Anderson improperly accepting Brewers tickets ... the NCAA would have negotiated with MU to have him miss the first four games of the regular season. (Juan had to miss games for the Brewer tickets ... too lazy to look it up but I seem to remember it was 1 or 2 games).
Better safe than sorry.
Quote from: tower912 on August 19, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
Yup. In the big picture, mouse nuts.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-lLvPk-XRdI/TJbinaPh0eI/AAAAAAAAAN0/pqixiNob2Pk/s1600/squirrel-huge-nuts.jpg)
One of the upsides to us winning all of the games (and decisively, for the most part) is that we were spared the 10-page thread on whether we would have won or not if they had let Haanif play.
You may know all of us too well.