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Title: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: GGGG on August 09, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
per Velasquez.  Still not cleared by NCAA.  He will get to travel with the team however.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on August 09, 2015, 06:27:30 PM
Darn.  Really unfortunate news.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Herman Cain on August 09, 2015, 06:30:49 PM
Very unfortunate news.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 09, 2015, 06:36:17 PM
How do you say..."well that sucks" in Italian?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 09, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Why hasn't he been cleared?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: MuMark on August 09, 2015, 06:36:48 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/haanif-cheatham-wont-play-in-italy-while-awaiting-ncaa-clearance-b99553359z1-321195611.html?ipad=y
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: GGGG on August 09, 2015, 06:39:38 PM
Why hasn't he been cleared?


Only a guess, but I wonder if there is a bit of a hang up because he went to a charter school and might be having trouble linking the classes he took with the core NCAA requirements. 
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on August 09, 2015, 06:44:38 PM
Should there be any cause for concern that he might not be cleared to play this season?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: chapman on August 09, 2015, 06:46:01 PM
Can Drake help?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: mu03eng on August 09, 2015, 06:47:04 PM
Should there be any cause for concern that he might not be cleared to play this season?

Nope, usual NCAA paperwork task.  Zar went through the same thing.  He will be cleared, just a question of when.

This sucks for Haanif, good opportunity to get formative minutes lost
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 09, 2015, 06:47:31 PM
Can Drake help?

#BringDrakeToMadness
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: 4everwarriors on August 09, 2015, 07:05:22 PM
He went to Notre Dame Prep, hey?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Groin_pull on August 09, 2015, 07:15:49 PM
God forbid the NCAA gets its sh#t together and clears him in time.  ::)
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: GGGG on August 09, 2015, 07:20:14 PM
God forbid the NCAA gets its sh#t together and clears him in time.  ::)

"In time?"

The NCAA is clearly fall sports athletes for a season that starts in weeks.  Their priority really doesn't need to be clearing the relative small number of athletes going Europe in late summer.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 09, 2015, 07:35:28 PM
"In time?"

The NCAA is clearly fall sports athletes for a season that starts in weeks.  Their priority really doesn't need to be clearing the relative small number of athletes going Europe in late summer.

Well, I guess that that depends upon one's perspective. 
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: JTBMU7 on August 09, 2015, 08:14:05 PM
"With Cheatham unable to play during the trip, redshirt sophomore Duane Wilson shifted to point guard along with freshman Traci Carter"
So I guess the plan at PG is the two freshman split time?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Class71 on August 09, 2015, 08:39:09 PM
Amazing how hard it has been for a school who had D Wade on their roster to recruit point guards.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 09, 2015, 09:16:43 PM

   Will the Walk-Ons make the Trip?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Blackhat on August 09, 2015, 09:20:17 PM
No problem.  One of you stalkers give Cheat your fake afro and mustache.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: WarriorPride68 on August 09, 2015, 09:21:15 PM
   Will the Walk-Ons make the Trip?


Walk-ons and managers are making trip. Basically everyone but Rowsey from the sound of it.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Loose Cannon on August 09, 2015, 09:35:55 PM

Walk-ons and managers are making trip. Basically everyone but Rowsey from the sound of it.

  Thank you.  Its a great experience for Guys that get no Glory.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 09, 2015, 10:39:10 PM
Amazing how hard it has been for a school who had D Wade on their roster to recruit point guards.

That's because the last coach didn't value them as much as the previous 5 coaches at MU.

Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: keefe on August 09, 2015, 10:55:07 PM

 managers are making trip

someone's gotta flush...

oh, wait, that was Bert...
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Groin_pull on August 10, 2015, 12:23:33 AM
"In time?"

The NCAA is clearly fall sports athletes for a season that starts in weeks.  Their priority really doesn't need to be clearing the relative small number of athletes going Europe in late summer.

It's a multi-billion dollar organization. Figure it out and get it done.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 10, 2015, 12:56:36 AM
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/haanif-cheatham-wont-play-in-italy-while-awaiting-ncaa-clearance-b99553359z1-321195611.html?ipad=y

2 things in this article.

1. JJJ changing his jumpshot technique is great news
2. MazosBurger sighting in the comments!
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on August 10, 2015, 01:49:32 AM
It's a multi-billion dollar organization. Figure it out and get it done.

No, it's not

Not even $1 billion in revenue....bottom line number is quite small after expenses, etc.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on August 10, 2015, 04:17:37 AM
Gotta feel for the kid as well. By all accounts he did nothing wrong just the NCAA slow at processing.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Blackhat on August 10, 2015, 04:50:08 AM
No, it's not

Not even $1 billion in revenue....bottom line number is quite small after expenses, etc.

Jesus Christ.. 4ever throw them a line of credit.   NCAA needs to tighten their game.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on August 10, 2015, 07:19:44 AM
The other 4 MU freshmen were cleared so I don't think it's just the slow NCAA.  Must be something in Cheatham's transcript needs to be verified.  Someone mentioned the charter school aspect in this thread.  Think that is causing the issue in some way.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: mu03eng on August 10, 2015, 08:03:15 AM
The other 4 MU freshmen were cleared so I don't think it's just the slow NCAA.  Must be something in Cheatham's transcript needs to be verified.  Someone mentioned the charter school aspect in this thread.  Think that is causing the issue in some way.

It is the cause but I wouldn't classify it as an issue.  Kids who go to charter schools go through "extra processing".  The fall students have priority (especially football) so all the fall students who went to charter schools have to go through the extra processing which pushes the basketball players way back..  If MU didn't have this opportunity and they were on the normal schedule, people wouldn't have even known about this.

It sucks but it's also a known thing that will resolve itself in the next two months.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: jsglow on August 10, 2015, 08:05:48 AM
It is the cause but I wouldn't classify it as an issue.  Kids who go to charter schools go through "extra processing".  The fall students have priority (especially football) so all the fall students who went to charter schools have to go through the extra processing which pushes the basketball players way back..  If MU didn't have this opportunity and they were on the normal schedule, people wouldn't have even known about this.

It sucks but it's also a known thing that will resolve itself in the next two months.

My question for you 03eng is why you weren't able to sweet talk your way into the Italy trip as a valuable media member?
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: mu03eng on August 10, 2015, 09:56:45 AM
My question for you 03eng is why you weren't able to sweet talk your way into the Italy trip as a valuable media member?

Apparently the athletic department doesn't care about the Scrambled Eggs listener....you know...you, Chick, my mom and 2 people in their grandmother's basement  ;)
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Benny B on August 10, 2015, 10:17:00 AM
"With Cheatham unable to play during the trip, redshirt sophomore Duane Wilson shifted to point guard along with freshman Traci Carter"
So I guess the plan at PG is the two freshman split time?

Traci is definitely being primed for significant action at PG during the season.... DuWil seems more like a fill-in for Europe.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 10, 2015, 11:57:58 AM
That's because the last coach didn't value them as much as the previous 5 coaches at MU.

He lost all respect for them once he learned that unlike him, they slept at night.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 10, 2015, 12:01:18 PM
No, it's not

Not even $1 billion in revenue....bottom line number is quite small after expenses, etc.

Revenue is not a bottom line number.  From Investopedia:

"DEFINITION of 'Revenue'
The amount of money that a company actually receives during a specific period, including discounts and deductions for returned merchandise. It is the "top line" or "gross income" figure from which costs are subtracted to determine net income.
(emphasis supplied)


Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Jay Bee on August 10, 2015, 12:13:04 PM
Revenue is not a bottom line number.  From Investopedia:

"DEFINITION of 'Revenue'
The amount of money that a company actually receives during a specific period, including discounts and deductions for returned merchandise. It is the "top line" or "gross income" figure from which costs are subtracted to determine net income.
(emphasis supplied)

I think you're misreading chicos. He had 2 pts - revenues were under a billion &  2) after expenses, change in net assets were not significant.

PS- I think they'll top $1B this year (which ends in a few weeks)
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: alexius23 on August 10, 2015, 12:29:55 PM
Beh, che schifo ("well that sucks"~in Italian)
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Lennys Tap on August 10, 2015, 01:52:03 PM
That's because the last coach didn't value them as much as the previous 5 coaches at MU.

Luckily he valued winning more than the previous 5 coaches at MU did.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 10, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
I think you're misreading chicos. He had 2 pts - revenues were under a billion &  2) after expenses, change in net assets were not significant.

PS- I think they'll top $1B this year (which ends in a few weeks)

So, in no case is the NCAA a "multi-billion dollar organization" as was alleged, got it.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: bilsu on August 10, 2015, 02:33:14 PM
2 things in this article.

1. JJJ changing his jumpshot technique is great news
2. MazosBurger sighting in the comments!
3. Heldt is starting to play some forward. I previously said he will be the back up 4  instead of Anim. Anim will probably play some four, but Heldt will play more
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Earl Tatum on August 11, 2015, 12:10:06 PM
If this happened to Kentucky or Duke, this issue would have been resolved much sooner.
The NCAA never had it together. The NCAA really SUCKS!
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Dawson Rental on August 11, 2015, 06:32:38 PM
If this happened to Kentucky or Duke, this issue would have been resolved much sooner.
The NCAA never had it together. The NCAA really SUCKS!

Somewhere, Al McGuire is smiling down on you.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: bilsu on August 11, 2015, 07:06:45 PM
I just cannot help but think that there is no reason for the NCAA to not let Cheatnam play. What advantage does MU or Cheatnam get, if he ends up not being eligible? They are actually punishing Cheatnam, if he ends up being eligible.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Galway Eagle on August 11, 2015, 08:13:48 PM
I just cannot help but think that there is no reason for the NCAA to not let Cheatnam play. What advantage does MU or Cheatnam get, if he ends up not being eligible? They are actually punishing Cheatnam, if he ends up being eligible.

Completely agree, this rule is BS
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: brandx on September 02, 2015, 03:29:51 PM
Cleared today.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: Galway Eagle on September 02, 2015, 03:33:48 PM
Cleared today.

I thought he was cleared on the last day of italy.
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: brandx on September 02, 2015, 03:39:50 PM
You're right. Just saw the post today on MJS and being in a state of brain deadness, I posted ithe "news".
Title: Re: Cheatham can't play in Italy
Post by: warriorchick on September 02, 2015, 03:59:12 PM
You're right. Just saw the post today on MJS and being in a state of brain deadness, I posted ithe "news".

Happens to the best of us.