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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on July 22, 2015, 10:28:58 AM

Title: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: tower912 on July 22, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
1.  Is Traci good enough to get the keys from day 1?
2.  How good is Henry?
3.  How is Luke's shoulder?
4.  Can JJJ hit a jumper consistently?

In actuality, since the team is basically a complete unknown, though one with potential, I am just looking forward to them getting the extra practice, the game experience, and hoping and praying that nobody gets hurt. 
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: dgies9156 on July 22, 2015, 11:12:37 AM
1) Can the team show signs of playing together, as a unit?

2) How will Coach Wojo use a much deeper bench than he had last year?

3) Who on this team will show signs of providing the leadership needed to prosper in a tough regular season?

4) Are our recruits what everyone says they are?

None of these will be directly answered until the leaves fall from the trees later this year. However, Italy should give us some idea of how these will shake out come October.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: muwarrior69 on July 22, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
Will our Jesuit Pope be attending one of the games?
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: wadesworld on July 22, 2015, 12:08:47 PM
Quote from: tower912 on July 22, 2015, 10:28:58 AM
1.  Is Traci good enough to get the keys from day 1? Yes
2.  How good is Henry? Really good
3.  How is Luke's shoulder? Healthy
4.  Can JJJ hit a jumper consistently? No

In actuality, since the team is basically a complete unknown, though one with potential, I am just looking forward to them getting the extra practice, the game experience, and hoping and praying that nobody gets hurt.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: THRILLHO on July 22, 2015, 12:15:02 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on July 22, 2015, 11:12:37 AM
2) How will Coach Wojo use a much deeper bench than he had last year?

With so many young players I think of it less as a deeper bench and more as extra lottery tickets.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: mug644 on July 22, 2015, 01:05:42 PM
Will a bigger front line than last year have the quickness to play man-to-man defense, or will Wojo emphasize a zone again?
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: GOO on July 22, 2015, 01:14:11 PM
Quote from: THRILLHO on July 22, 2015, 12:15:02 PM
With so many young players I think of it less as a deeper bench and more as extra lottery tickets.
I think point guard play will be the primary thing I'll be watching. 
I'll also watch to see who can hit a jumper consistently.

THRILLHO is dead on.  For those who see a lot of depth, I see a lot of unproven and young talent (mainly freshman) that are now catorgorized as "we'll see in time what they can do and hope they develop" and "maybe one or two will be great because we need them now."

With four guys coming back from a really bad team, someone has to explain to me why we should be so good and have depth.  HE should be good.  Cohen didn't show much unless you have blue and gold glasses on, Duane is good but about average for a BE 2 guard (hopefully he can make a leap), Fisher looked above average and could be one of the better centers, JJJ shows flashes but can't shoot for a wing/guard.

I'm all for hope and I have some that things all break our way and we win 23 games.  But a LOT has to go right for that to happen.  Our "experienced" players are inexperienced on any other team!

If you were looking at some random teams roster and not MU, what would you think:

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/marq-m-baskbl-mtt.html
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: keefe on July 22, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
Quote from: GOO on July 22, 2015, 01:14:11 PM

If you were looking at some random teams roster and not MU, what would you think:

http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/marq-m-baskbl-mtt.html

I would say that we will do well to break even on the season. People need to be realistic
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: bilsu on July 22, 2015, 03:00:31 PM
Add to your list how much does added strength improve Cohen's game?
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: real chili 83 on July 22, 2015, 03:06:21 PM
Quote from: keefe on July 22, 2015, 01:27:00 PM
I would say that we will do well to break even on the season. People need to be realistic

Oh, ye of so little faith.

We are going to win the BE and go to the elite 8 at a minimum.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: Loose Cannon on July 22, 2015, 03:15:24 PM


  What I will be focus on theses games and more importantly the "Buy games".  As much as these games have a negative effect on the Selection Committee I think there is somewhat of a positive effect to MU's  growth potential


My priority will not be on the talent (It will show itself soon enough).  I will be focus on the following (which doesn't need a lot of gifted talent) and if and how much it improves during the non-conf schedule.

1) Fundaments:
      a)   In Game Communication & Spacing.
      b)  Passing, Screening and Blocking Out.
      c) Always aware of Score, Fouls, Time outs, and time remaining
      d) Free Throw Shooting improvement.  (Google Dr Tom Amberry)

  2) Discipline and Attitude:
      a)   No more "Grand Marshall" poses after a Dunk and losing two steps on transition to defense.
      b)   Attitudes not in line with the Coaching Staff will be easier to deal with now that we have a deeper bench.

   3)  Toughness:
         a)   Going after loose balls, fightings for rebounds.
         b)   How strong is each players WILL to win.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: GOO on July 22, 2015, 03:24:19 PM
We may do better than break even due to the easy non-conference schedule.  But for Big East games and games against real competition, I'd take break even right now.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: keefe on July 22, 2015, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: GOO on July 22, 2015, 03:24:19 PM
We may do better than break even due to the easy non-conference schedule.  But for Big East games and games against real competition, I'd take break even right now.

That is what I meant, actually. I don't count the cream puff schedule. Breaking even in the Big East would be a moral victory.

I think Wojo is going to get it done but Bert really did leave the cupboard bare so we need to calibrate our expectations accordingly.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: 4everwarriors on July 22, 2015, 03:35:50 PM
Deals on Gucci and Prada, hey?
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: JakeBarnes on July 22, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 22, 2015, 03:35:50 PM
Deals on Gucci and Prada, hey?

Winner.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: keefe on July 22, 2015, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 22, 2015, 03:35:50 PM
Deals on Gucci and Prada, hey?

Sh1t, if the mods would stop deleting those threads they could just come on Scoop first thing in the morning to get great deals on designer goods
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 22, 2015, 04:54:12 PM
Looking for the players to go easy on the limoncello in all the gift shops.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: ecc5051 on July 22, 2015, 05:20:50 PM
Just returned from Italy and the dollar is so strong. Dinner and drink prices are cheaper than Milwaukee. 100% of Gucci and Prada products the street venders sell are FAKE.   It you want a fake, negotiate down 50%.
Watch out for pickpocketing, they are very good! Everybody has a pickpocketing story from Italy. 
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: keefe on July 22, 2015, 05:39:19 PM
Quote from: ecc5051 on July 22, 2015, 05:20:50 PM
Everybody has a pickpocketing story from Italy.

(http://popcurious.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/1Gypsies-250x187.jpg)
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: Herman Cain on July 22, 2015, 09:41:02 PM
The trip will be fun for the kids on the team.  Hopefully they come back with great enthusiasm for the season.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: AZWarrior on July 22, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 22, 2015, 09:41:02 PM
The trip will be fun for the kids on the team.  Hopefully they come back with great enthusiasm for the season.

.....And no pick-pocketing stories!   ;)
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: Brewtown Andy on July 23, 2015, 01:05:21 AM
Quote from: ecc5051 on July 22, 2015, 05:20:50 PM
100% of Gucci and Prada products the street venders sell are FAKE.

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on July 23, 2015, 10:29:16 AM
... some man to man defense
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: willie warrior on July 23, 2015, 11:06:57 AM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on July 22, 2015, 11:58:29 AM
Will our Jesuit Pope be attending one of the games?
Don't think so--he is busy now dissing capitalism, listening to his Occupy Wall Street Guru advising him on the perils of global warning and fine tuning his socialist catechism. MU BBall will not beat the top of his agenda
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: T-Bone on July 23, 2015, 11:21:29 AM
Will Mache be the Senior leader we need?
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: MuMark on July 23, 2015, 11:31:37 AM

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‏@BrianHamiltonSI
#Marquette big man Luke Fischer is cleared after offseason shoulder surgery, will be full contact before team's Italy trip in August. #mubb
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on July 23, 2015, 11:38:37 AM
Whether or not Wojo allows the whole team to wear jersey #24.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: willie warrior on July 23, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: ecc5051 on July 22, 2015, 05:20:50 PM
Just returned from Italy and the dollar is so strong. Dinner and drink prices are cheaper than Milwaukee. 100% of Gucci and Prada products the street venders sell are FAKE.   It you want a fake, negotiate down 50%.
Watch out for pickpocketing, they are very good! Everybody has a pickpocketing story from Italy.
Of course they would be good at pick pocketing, among other things. Did they not give us the Mafia, Don Vito Corleone, etc.? And other pleasures such as Sophia Loren.
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on July 23, 2015, 02:35:52 PM
Quote from: MuMark on July 23, 2015, 11:31:37 AM
Brian HamiltonVerified account
‏@BrianHamiltonSI
#Marquette big man Luke Fischer is cleared after offseason shoulder surgery, will be full contact before team's Italy trip in August. #mubb

Great news!
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: MuMark on July 23, 2015, 07:07:28 PM
Quote from: willie warrior on July 23, 2015, 12:26:53 PM
Of course they would be good at pick pocketing, among other things. Did they not give us the Mafia, Don Vito Corleone, etc.? And other pleasures such as Sophia Loren.

Pizza!
Title: Re: Things I am looking for on the trip to Italy.
Post by: Loose Cannon on July 25, 2015, 05:34:24 PM


I presume that European Basketball Rules will be used on this trip.  If that is correct, and only Henry has experience, then these are two things I will be watching.

1)  Can our players adjust relatively smoothly to these rules?

2)  How do they control their frustrations (Maturity) when they make mistakes under these rules?

     
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