Sacar's former teammate and a top MN recruit, Jarvis Johnson, won't be playing for the Gophers this year b/c of a heart condition that has been known about for 5 years. Very sad and interesting turn of events for Jarvis. Wonder if he'll quit MN and go find a program that will let him play.
http://www.startribune.com/jarvis-johnson-surprised-by-gophers-decision-family-says/307718311/
that is pretty crappy of the school, what a cluster
We did something like that to McMorrow. It happens.
Quote from: LAMUfan on June 17, 2015, 01:41:07 PM
that is pretty crappy of the school, what a cluster
Not really.
I feel for the kid, but if doctors won't clear him to play, the school has little choice here.
The alternative is to let the kid play, risk a Hank Gathers/Rashidi Wheeler situation and then get sued for millions for putting the kid's life in jeopardy.
Allowing a guy to play when he has a known heart condition, has collapsed while playing basketball in the past, and apparently did not pass University administered tests, would be extremely risky and possibly qualify as gross negligence if anything happened. It's an unfortunate situation for everyone involved, but pretty hard to fault the school for doing what they felt they had to.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 17, 2015, 01:53:28 PM
Allowing a guy to play when he has a known heart condition, has collapsed while playing basketball in the past, and apparently did not pass University administered tests, would be extremely risky and possibly qualify as gross negligence if anything happened. It's an unfortunate situation for everyone involved, but pretty hard to fault the school for doing what they felt they had to.
They could have NOT offered a scholarship to him. Not like they found out a couple weeks ago that he had it. If they DID find out a couple of weeks ago, then someone didn't do their job. I agree it's a risk to take Johnson, but sounds like they knew what they were getting themselves into. Just a terrible situation for that kid.
Quote from: MUCrew on June 17, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
They could have NOT offered a scholarship to him. Not like they found out a couple weeks ago that he had it. If they DID find out a couple of weeks ago, then someone didn't do their job. I agree it's a risk to take Johnson, but sounds like they knew what they were getting themselves into. Just a terrible situation for that kid.
It's fair to say that the University could have analyzed the risk better up front to avoid this situation, but that would have been unusual. My guess is that they were aware of the situation but thought it could be managed given that he was playing in high school. But they wouldn't have known exactly what his condition was until they did their own physical on him, which is a pre-requisite for every collegiate athlete and would typically be done after he was committed and enrolled in the school.
Quote from: frozena pizza on June 17, 2015, 04:33:35 PM
It's fair to say that the University could have analyzed the risk better up front to avoid this situation, but that would have been unusual. My guess is that they were aware of the situation but thought it could be managed given that he was playing in high school. But they wouldn't have known exactly what his condition was until they did their own physical on him, which is a pre-requisite for every collegiate athlete and would typically be done after he was committed and enrolled in the school.
The POTENTIAL issue here is that the family, per media reports, seems to be indicating tests had been done for weeks in the past and no indications of heightened concern or issues had been brought up until 6/8. All quiet.. lots of tests.. time passes.. then boom. Need clarification on this before forming a conclusion...
Dude has an implanted defibrillator from 2011 right? I mean u could hug him and figure that out. They shouldn't of offered him a scholarship. They probably never ran it by any of there medical staff until recently. That was a mistake on the coaches/ school
Interesting enough, Minnesota has another freshman PG signed, so I guess that they covered their tracks butt.
A feel good story that doesn't feel so good now.
Quote from: LAMUfan on June 17, 2015, 07:06:00 PM
Dude has an implanted defibrillator from 2011 right? I mean u could hug him and figure that out. They shouldn't of offered him a scholarship. They probably never ran it by any of there medical staff until recently. That was a mistake on the coaches/ school
So what you're saying is the junior Pitino might not be as touchy feely as his pops?
ha, I guess that is the case :o
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on June 17, 2015, 01:42:03 PM
We did something like that to McMorrow. It happens.
But Liam wasn't diagnosed until after he arrived at MU. It sounds like UM knew of the condition yet "tied him up" any way.
Why can't he simply sign a waiver saying that after consulting with his personal and team physicians, he understands the risk and won't hold the school liable if he suffers harm or death due to his condition?
You'd think Minnesota, of all places, would have enough experts on a health matter to make an informed decision before offering a scholarship.
Quote from: Benny B on June 20, 2015, 02:07:46 AM
You'd think Minnesota, of all places, would have enough experts on a health matter
I thought that was Indiana?
Quote from: Benny B on June 20, 2015, 02:07:46 AM
But Liam wasn't diagnosed until after he arrived at MU. It sounds like UM knew of the condition yet "tied him up" any way.
Why can't he simply sign a waiver saying that after consulting with his personal and team physicians, he understands the risk and won't hold the school liable if he suffers harm or death due to his condition?
You'd think Minnesota, of all places, would have enough experts on a health matter to make an informed decision before offering a scholarship.
The article said he picked Minnesota over MU and UW among others. So it seems that we were willing to sign him.
Quote from: keefe on June 20, 2015, 03:27:58 AM
I thought that was Indiana?
I should have said
qualified experts.
Quote from: bilsu on June 20, 2015, 07:38:25 AM
The article said he picked Minnesota over MU and UW among others. So it seems that we were willing to sign him.
That's what the article says. Need to consider the author and not accept it as truth simply because it's in print. ;)
But yes, MU certainly was involved. Jarvis has been competing at a high level w/o issue for years.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 17, 2015, 05:34:48 PM
The POTENTIAL issue here is that the family, per media reports, seems to be indicating tests had been done for weeks in the past and no indications of heightened concern or issues had been brought up until 6/8. All quiet.. lots of tests.. time passes.. then boom. Need clarification on this before forming a conclusion...
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13241025
Your hometown boy is a smart man when it comes to his NFL team/player of choice. You could learn a thing or 12 from him.
Quote from: Pakuni on June 17, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
Not really.
I feel for the kid, but if doctors won't clear him to play, the school has little choice here.
The alternative is to let the kid play, risk a Hank Gathers/Rashidi Wheeler situation and then get sued for millions for putting the kid's life in jeopardy.
Man, I completely forgot about Wheeler. That was such a sad day for NU football fans. They were just coming off a Big 10 championship where he started every game for that team. Sad day.