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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Macallan 18 on June 09, 2015, 12:00:40 PM
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Is this new open plot of land the future home of McCormick's replacement?
The university on Friday, June 12, will begin demolition work on three buildings and a parking structure on the campus’ west edge. Buildings that formerly housed the Academic Support Center and Child Care Center, as well as the Helfaer Building, Boiler Plant and the parking structure adjacent to Humphrey Hall, will be razed over the course of several months.
As a result, there may be intermittent short-term parking, sidewalk and traffic lane closures. Please watch for signs and be mindful of and careful around the demolition areas.
Work hours will comply with university and city standards for noise, and no work will take place earlier than 8 a.m. during the school year.
Long-term plans for the new space will be considered as part of the university’s master planning process. In the interim, the land will be converted to green space.
http://today.marquette.edu/2015/06/some-building-parking-structure-demolition-to-begin-friday/ (http://today.marquette.edu/2015/06/some-building-parking-structure-demolition-to-begin-friday/)
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Demolitioning? I'm sure the word you were looking for was "demolishing".
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Is this new open plot of land the future home of McCormick's replacement?
Long-term plans for the new space will be considered as part of the university’s master planning process. In the interim, the land will be converted to green space.
Hopefully. No need for an interim, waste of grass seed. :D
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I hadn't heard about this. Thanks for sharing.
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Wasn't the new MU/Bucks sports medicine building supposed to also replace Halfaer? That was just announced a few months ago - I can't imagine it's anywhere near completion, is it? Is there going to be a big gap in student rec facilities for a while?
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Wasn't the new MU/Bucks sports medicine building supposed to also replace Halfaer? That was just announced a few months ago - I can't imagine it's anywhere near completion, is it? Is there going to be a big gap in student rec facilities for a while?
The Helfaer building is a different facility. As the title suggests, it is behind Humphrey Hall (the former Children's Hospital).
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The Helfaer building is a different facility. As the title suggests, it is behind Humphrey Hall (the former Children's Hospital).
Ahh, thanks. For most of the past 25 years, my time on campus has been mostly limited to the Union area when I'm in town for games, so I wasn't exactly sure of the location.
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I can't even imagine the space they're talking about. The child care center and academic support facility are nowhere near eachother.
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In the interim, the land will be converted to green space.
"Green space" is thinly veiled code for "football field", people...
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+1000! Excellente, senor.
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"Green space" is thinly veiled code for "football field", people...
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LOL Well done
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I can't even imagine the space they're talking about. The child care center and academic support facility are nowhere near eachother.
Before the child care center moved to its new digs on 19th street a few years ago, it used to be in the building that was part of the Academic Support Facility.
The highlighted area in the map below is what will be demolished.
Anyone know what the Helfaer Building was used for? Offices? Storage?
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Before the child care center moved to its new digs on 19th street a few years ago, it used to be in the building that was part of the Academic Support Facility.
The highlighted area in the map below is what will be demolished.
Anyone know what the Helfaer Building was used for? Offices? Storage?
Practice spaces. Literally nothing in there. We would have air band practices there and the only thing there were martial arts materials in a small closet.
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I didn't even know there was campus buildings on that block behind Humphrey.
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Well $hit looks like girl in white is going to have to occupy Humphrey full time.
That parking garage needed to come down in 03 when I parked there, wonder where the residents of Humphrey are going to park now.
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Practice spaces. Literally nothing in there. We would have air band practices there and the only thing there were martial arts materials in a small closet.
Yeah, we used to have crew practice in one of those buildings.
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These were all pretty old structure of modest utility to Marquette. I'm quite confident that there isn't a specific plan for the space yet but I do know that MU is kicking off a major fundraising campaign later this year. The initial 18 month phase will be to court some big time donors so unless you are on the short list for that expect rollout of the campaign publicly at a later date. You'll say that MU is always raising money but do understand that the Magis campaign ended about 5 years ago. There some restructuring taking place in Advancements right now that signal the commencement of the new initiative.
Anyway, Mike seems absolutely committed to the next phase of university development. He knows that land is a precious commodity for an urban school. We've seen block acquisitions on the east side of campus. The clearing of this site fits the model. But I think it a bit premature to speculate what might end up there although housing certainly makes sense. But I must say, a football field really made me chuckle.
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More housing would make the most sense. I don't know if this is a popular opinion, but McCormick is an eyesore on prime real estate. Putting a large freshman dorm on 17th could free up the possibility of repurposing both the McCormick land and the parking lot north of it on 17th for something else.
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More housing would make the most sense. I don't know if this is a popular opinion, but McCormick is an eyesore on prime real estate. Putting a large freshman dorm on 17th could free up the possibility of repurposing both the McCormick land and the parking lot north of it on 17th for something else.
Totally agree. McCormick isn't too long for the world (I'll guess less than 10 years) but it's yet to be seen if an alternative to new construction emerges. For example, a Marquette purchase of the Ardmore building might alter the thinking. I'm not suggesting that anything is in the works but we can't necessarily predict the future. I'd too love to re-purpose the McCormick/parking lot footprint along 16th.
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I can remember when McCormick was being built. Why would they demolish McCormick and not Schroeder which is older?
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I can remember when McCormick was being built. Why would they demolish McCormick and not Schroeder which is older?
Schroeder is simply a much better building. Almost no chance that goes away anytime soon. I'd actually expect it to fill the McCormick Frosh slot someday.
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I can remember when McCormick was being built. Why would they demolish McCormick and not Schroeder which is older?
McCormick was a POS in 1981 when I arrived on campus, and it looks even worse now. You can tell they tried to maximize square footage at the cost of quality construction that would not last in the long term. In retrospect, the whole strategy of "Let's throw up a mod-looking building made out of cheap materials and fill it with 750 freshmen boys" was probably not wise.
Schroeder, on the other hand, is an all-brick building. The window sills in the dorm rooms are made of granite. Seeing it was named after (and I assume, funded by) the owner of some of the most legendary hotels in Milwaukee, it makes sense that he would want it built well.
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Why would they demolish McCormick and not Schroeder which is older?
Is that a serious question? Schroeder is the Four Seasons compared to the Beer Can.
I lived in both.
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a Marquette purchase of the Ardmore building
My wife lived in the Ardmore Apartments. There was a back way from upstairs that took one straight into the bar. Marquette should honor its heritage and refrain from destroying cherished landmarks in the name of progress. First it was the Plankinton Mansion, then the Lanche...and now the Ardmore? For the love of God...why? Why?
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Is that a serious question? Schroeder is the Four Seasons compared to the Beer Can.
I lived in both.
Schroeder's 10th Floor held a priceless collection of album art until some Philistines painted over it...
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My wife lived in the Ardmore Apartments. There was a back way from upstairs that took one straight into the bar. Marquette should honor its heritage and refrain from destroying cherished landmarks in the name of progress. First it was the Plankinton Mansion, then the Lanche...and now the Ardmore? For the love of God...why? Why?
Cool your jets, keefe...no one said anything about knocking it down. If the building is still structurally sound, they might keep it as university-owned housing. I know it's Marquette's goal to purchase any property that borders the campus if and when it becomes available. For example, they own the entire block of Wells street that Chili is on. The Ardmore Building is basically an island in regards to privately-owned property. Not sure why.
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Cool your jets, keefe...no one said anything about knocking it down. If the building is still structurally sound, they might keep it as university-owned housing. I know it's Marquette's goal to purchase any property that borders the campus if and when it becomes available. For example, they own the entire block of Wells street that Chili is on. The Ardmore Building is basically an island in regards to privately-owned property. Not sure why.
The Ardmore Apartments were built like Ft Knox. I remember being asked to hang pictures and found that the walls were like Hitler's Bunker.
Speaking of which, I remember how my wife and her roommates actually tried to decorate their digs...how many college dudes put any effort into their environment? We lived in a fire trap house where our tables were those cable spools and all the cutlery had airline logos. There was a building going up north of the State Street DMZ and we made a post midnight run to get cinder blocks and 2x4s to make book shelves and stereo stands...
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Practice spaces. Literally nothing in there. We would have air band practices there and the only thing there were martial arts materials in a small closet.
So that's where they put TC's old karate gear. Good to know.
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Is that a serious question? Schroeder is the Four Seasons compared to the Beer Can.
I lived in both.
I lived in Schroeder as well and not McCormick, but when McCormick opened in the fall of '68 it was pretty nice. I guess it has not held up as well.
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Schroeder's 10th Floor held a priceless collection of album art until some Philistines painted over it...
Philistine scum.
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Worked a summer in facility services, mostly out of Humphrey. When I got bored would get the keys and go exploring. Lots of weird stuff in the old children's hospital complex. Some of it is literally stuck in time. Opened one room that looked like an ergonomics laboratory untouched for 30 years. Others still had doctors belongings left behind. Lots of rooms just filled with old theater props. Most of the buildings are all connected through underground tunnels. Strangest room was the size of the small gym at Straz (old Y). The top was at ground level with a set of stairs straight down three stories underground with no railing. It was completely empty. Never could figure out what it was originally used for, but thought about putting a basketball hoop down there.
Despite popular belief, the morgue no longer exists in Humphrey.... Where it was is now part of the campus bakery (Sodexo).
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Worked a summer in facility services, mostly out of Humphrey. When I got bored would get the keys and go exploring. Lots of weird stuff in the old children's hospital complex. Some of it is literally stuck in time. Opened one room that looked like an ergonomics laboratory untouched for 30 years. Others still had doctors belongings left behind. Lots of rooms just filled with old theater props. Most of the buildings are all connected through underground tunnels. Strangest room was the size of the small gym at Straz (old Y). The top was at ground level with a set of stairs straight down three stories underground with no railing. It was completely empty. Never could figure out what it was originally used for, but thought about putting a basketball hoop down there.
Despite popular belief, the morgue no longer exists in Humphrey.... Where it was is now part of the campus bakery (Sodexo).
Heard a lot of weird stories of the old children's hospital area. Any truth to the rumor there are still kids dolls and bikes down there?
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Heard a lot of weird stories of the old children's hospital area. Any truth to the rumor there are still kids dolls and bikes down there?
No, not that I came across. There is a nice pot leaf mural in the basement of the main building though.
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The Ardmore Apartments were built like Ft Knox. I remember being asked to hang pictures and found that the walls were like Hitler's Bunker.
Speaking of which, I remember how my wife and her roommates actually tried to decorate their digs...how many college dudes put any effort into their environment? We lived in a fire trap house where our tables were those cable spools and all the cutlery had airline logos. There was a building going up north of the State Street DMZ and we made a post midnight run to get cinder blocks and 2x4s to make book shelves and stereo stands...
I lived in City Apartments on 17th & Kilbourn. One of my roommates was joking around and pushed another roomie into the wall and his hip literally smashed through the wall into a crawl space. Rather than notifying our landlord we put a poster over the hole (Pamela Anderson I think). Every time we opened a door or window it flapped like a sail. Never got the damage deposit back but that was our attempt at decorating.
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I lived in Schroeder as well and not McCormick, but when McCormick opened in the fall of '68 it was pretty nice. I guess it has not held up as well.
Neither have you! Walked right into that one.
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Heard a lot of weird stories of the old children's hospital area. Any truth to the rumor there are still kids dolls and bikes down there?
We had a really weird experience in Humphrey one evening and we weren't even doing drugs. For some reason a group of us walked into Humphrey and we were talking about ghosts and the children's hospital and someone jokingly said the ghost should try to make the elevator go into the basement(it wasn't supposed to be able to without a key). To this day I don't know if someone had a key or what but the elevator actually went all the way down and opened up on a really creepy scene.
The only light was from the elevator, there were toys, tricycles, etc down there and a bunch of abandoned hospital equipment like gurneys. Me and another guy tried to explore around a little but if you got too far from the elevator there was just no light plus this was pre-cell phone so no way to get out if our friends decided to let the doors close. It was a pretty weird experience.
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We had a really weird experience in Humphrey one evening and we weren't even doing drugs. For some reason a group of us walked into Humphrey and we were talking about ghosts and the children's hospital and someone jokingly said the ghost should try to make the elevator go into the basement(it wasn't supposed to be able to without a key). To this day I don't know if someone had a key or what but the elevator actually went all the way down and opened up on a really creepy scene.
The only light was from the elevator, there were toys, tricycles, etc down there and a bunch of abandoned hospital equipment like gurneys. Me and another guy tried to explore around a little but if you got too far from the elevator there was just no light plus this was pre-cell phone so no way to get out if our friends decided to let the doors close. It was a pretty weird experience.
Isn't there still a morgue in Humphrey, that has basically been unchanged since it was a hospital?
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MU is kicking off a major fundraising campaign later this year.
I attended private schools for K-8, high school, and college, each of which have me on their mailing list.
The one thing none of these schools taught me was that I would be inundated, hearing about major fundraising campaigns for the rest of my life, and ....oh yes... we'd like you to include us in your will, too.
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I attended private schools for K-8, high school, and college, each of which have me on their mailing list.
The one thing none of these schools taught me was that I would be inundated, hearing about major fundraising campaigns for the rest of my life, and ....oh yes... we'd like you to include us in your will, too.
Ditto.
I actually prefer to give to my Catholic high school because I am not still paying off loans for that education. Marquette might start getting something from me once I've paid it off. I also feel that my donations to my high school are more meaningful and impactful, because the alumni base is much, much smaller. I write them a check every year around Christmastime.
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I attended private schools for K-8, high school, and college, each of which have me on their mailing list.
The one thing none of these schools taught me was that I would be inundated, hearing about major fundraising campaigns for the rest of my life, and ....oh yes... we'd like you to include us in your will, too.
Yeah, Marquette calls on a regular basis. Hopefully my 'Scoop friends won't think any less of me for admitting this, but I'm prepared to tell them, "I love Marquette, and always will...but for the next 10 years or so I'm going to be paying a sizable portion of my income to other universities. Please put me on 'do not call' until 2025."
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Honestly guys, giving is a personal choice. But if ya'll think Marquette is aggressive talk to a friend or two that went to Notre Dame. And then look at our endowment compared to their's.
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And then look at our endowment compared to their's.
Frankly, glow, my wife was always very pleased with my endowment.
Airing one's shortcomings so publicly is unseemly...
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Ditto.
I actually prefer to give to my Catholic high school because I am not still paying off loans for that education. Marquette might start getting something from me once I've paid it off. I also feel that my donations to my high school are more meaningful and impactful, because the alumni base is much, much smaller. I write them a check every year around Christmastime.
One thing that people should never forget is that many employers will match (the % varies) charitable giving. This is a superb way to maximize donations to the places and causes that are important to one's sense of purpose.
My wife managed this aspect of our personal finances and she ensured that our one shared alma mater was recognized. This is one decision of hers I never questioned.
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Frankly, glow, my wife was always very pleased with my endowment.
Airing one's shortcomings so publicly is unseemly...
Says the guy who adorns his post with the most manly equipment ever created. You know what they say about guys with flashy sports cars or fighter jets. Wink wink my friend. ;D
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Says the guy who adorns his post with the most manly equipment ever created. You know what they say about guys with flashy sports cars or fighter jets. Wink wink my friend. ;D
Yep. Definitely compensating.
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Yeah, Marquette calls on a regular basis. Hopefully my 'Scoop friends won't think any less of me for admitting this, but I'm prepared to tell them, "I love Marquette, and always will...but for the next 10 years or so I'm going to be paying a sizable portion of my income to other universities. Please put me on 'do not call' until 2025."
That is where I am as well. And really even once that is done, I am not sure if Marquette will make it back on the list.
But the way these things go, 98% of the money will be secured from about 2% of the donors. And I don't think I will ever be in a position to be among that 2%.
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Isn't there still a morgue in Humphrey, that has basically been unchanged since it was a hospital?
We thought we saw the morgue cooler down there but couldn't tell in the lighting
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We thought we saw the morgue cooler down there but couldn't tell in the lighting
During my time at MU, I remember hearing the rumor that they kept the morgue intact in case there were ever a large-scale disaster in the city and they ran out of places to keep the bodies elsewhere.
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Yep. Definitely compensating.
You should see the big a$$ Rolex I wear!
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Says the guy who adorns his post with the most manly equipment ever created. You know what they say about guys with flashy sports cars or fighter jets. Wink wink my friend. ;D
Jack Nicholson, playing fighter pilot turned astronaut Garrett Breedlove in Terms of Endearment, invites Shirley MacLaine as Aurora over for dinner. His dining room is a monument of phallic-like rockets and F-15s.
Aurora accuses Breedlove of being too obvious. To which Breedlove replies, "106 astronauts in the whole f#cking world and I'm one of 'em!"
Gotta love Nicholson
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Jack Nicholson, playing fighter pilot turned astronaut Garrett Breedlove in Terms of Endearment, invites Shirley MacLaine as Aurora over for dinner. His dining room is a monument of phallic-like rockets and F-15s.
Aurora accuses Breedlove of being too obvious. To which Breedlove replies, "106 astronauts in the whole f#cking world and I'm one of 'em!"
Gotta love Nicholson
Awesome.
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During my time at MU, I remember hearing the rumor that they kept the morgue intact in case there were ever a large-scale disaster in the city and they ran out of places to keep the bodies elsewhere.
Don't know when you graduated but same story I heard too.
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This is definiteugoing to hurt business at Dany's Foods
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McCormick opened in the fall of '68 it was pretty nice. I guess it has not held up as well.
There is probably still vomit from 1968 throughout the stairwells of McCormick. I remember one time a guy on the 8th floor didn't come back from a Saturday night and people were getting concerned for him. At lunch we were talking about it and a guy from the 10th floor said there was somebody passed out in the stairwell between 7 and 8. We went up and found him still drunk and covered in vomit.
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There is probably still vomit from 1968 throughout the stairwells of McCormick. I remember one time a guy on the 8th floor didn't come back from a Saturday night and people were getting concerned for him. At lunch we were talking about it and a guy from the 10th floor said there was somebody passed out in the stairwell between 7 and 8. We went up and found him still drunk and covered in vomit.
Did Eggert try and draw genetalia on him with a permanent marker?
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Did Eggert try and draw genetalia on him with a permanent marker?
This was in McCormick. The dude passed out was on the golf team.
I remember Eggert passed out in one of the TV lounges in Schroeder and was the victim of someone's creative energy. Might be where Eggert learned his craft.
The RA was Pete DiSalva who was a Marine option NROTC. I remember Pete expressed concern about this since Eggert's old man was an Admiral. We assured Pete that the Admiral wasn't going to trash his fledgling Marine Corps career over a college prank. I ran into Pete years later in the Sandbox when we were both Lt Cols. I forgot to ask if Eggert's old man told the Commandant about the prank...Pete ended up putting on chickens. It is bloody difficult to make Colonel in the USMC so Pete did something right along the way.