So far 38 players have declared early for the draft. The latest is Tyrus Jones of Duke (to go with Okafor and Winslow). And, of course, 7 are coming from Kentucky as well as Dekker, Looney and Tokoto (names of interest around here).
The deadline to declare in April 26.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25130473/nba-draft-2015-early-entry-list-whos-staying-and-who-is-going
The record number of early entrants was 47 in 2013 (20 of which went un-drafted including Vander Blue)
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/29/of-47-early-entrants-in-2013-nba-draft-20-didnt-make-an-nba-roster/
And also 47 in 1997
http://www.si.com/vault/1997/06/02/227786/impossible-dream-a-record-47-early-entrants-applied-for-the-nba-draft-many-harboring-quixotic-visions-of-starring-on-basketballs-brightest-stage
FYI - 44 declared early last year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NBA_draft#Early_entrants
Back in 1997 it was high schoolers that were coming out in droves. Now it is freshman. It was this flood of high schoolers that pushed the NBA to change their collective bargaining agreement (CBA) to change the rule to 19 years old and one year after your HS class graduates.
Mark Cuban has stated he hates Freshman coming out. Do you expect the NBA to change their CBA to keep kids in school? Can they or will they get sued?
Thoughts?
Tyus declared huh? I hate the one and done rule. Let the kids enter straight out of high school. It should be their call.
Quote from: ChitownLee on April 15, 2015, 05:10:56 PM
Tyus declared huh? I hate the one and done rule. Let the kids enter straight out of high school. It should be their call.
http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2015/story/_/id/12694251/tyus-jones-duke-blue-devils-enter-nba-draft
Quote from: ChitownLee on April 15, 2015, 05:10:56 PM
Tyus declared huh? I hate the one and done rule. Let the kids enter straight out of high school. It should be their call.
The problem is the NBA wants to be protected from themselves. They don't want to draft and pay these kids and send them to the d-league to develop (or ride the bench and not play). But they also do not want to pass on kids with big upside potential.
They want them to go the college and let college teams develop them for free.
superbar
FYI
Willie Cauley Stein signed with an agent ... Jay-Z
http://www.draftexpress.com/2015-NBA-Draft-Early-Entry-List.php
#5 is all in too. John Hancock on the dotted line, hey?
He's keepin' it reals, ai na?
Quote from: Lee Heisenberg on April 15, 2015, 05:15:30 PM
The problem is the NBA wants to be protected from themselves. They don't want to draft and pay these kids and send them to the d-league to develop (or ride the bench and not play). But they also do not want to pass on kids with big upside potential.
They want them to go the college and let college teams develop them for free.
Exactly right. Heard the argument that you can "go pro" in baseball or hockey and be less ready than basketball...except both sports have a well-developed minor league system. The NBA could solve this by allowing players to be drafted out of high school, and force them to play in the D League for two years. They won't because they'd rather get the half-finished product for free than be compelled to invest in the D League to pay for the development of their own talent.
Quote from: chapman on April 15, 2015, 05:59:43 PM
Exactly right. Heard the argument that you can "go pro" in baseball or hockey and be less ready than basketball...except both sports have a well-developed minor league system. The NBA could solve this by allowing players to be drafted out of high school, and force them to play in the D League for two years. They won't because they'd rather get the half-finished product for free than be compelled to invest in the D League to pay for the development of their own talent.
An NHL-style system would make the most sense.
- a player becomes draft-eligible if he turns 18 by September of that year.
- a drafted player retains college eligibility as long as he doesn't sign a pro contract. A drafted player can sign a pro contract and play junior hockey ... in this case NBDL.
- a player who remains undrafted when he's 20 becomes a free agent.
- a drafted player who remains unsigned two years later can either re-enter the draft (if he's 20 or under) or becomes a free agent (21 or over). The exception is a college player. The drafting team retains his rights throughout his college career + 30 days, at which point he becomes a free agent.
PakunLee-
I like this idea...a lot better than the one floated on Grantland site last week (ways to fixed the d-league).
Quote from: PakunLee on April 15, 2015, 06:17:29 PM
- a drafted player retains college eligibility as long as he doesn't sign a pro contract.
That is pretty cool. So a kid could declare for the draft, get drafted but then play the next year for his college team with his rights still owned by the drafting team. I assume the kid might do this in the hopes that a better college season would increase his contract "price". I wonder if this situation would really happen or if any kid drafted would go for the money immediately. Would certainly allow kids to "test the draft".
Quote from: chapman on April 15, 2015, 05:59:43 PM
Exactly right. Heard the argument that you can "go pro" in baseball or hockey and be less ready than basketball...except both sports have a well-developed minor league system. The NBA could solve this by allowing players to be drafted out of high school, and force them to play in the D League for two years. They won't because they'd rather get the half-finished product for free than be compelled to invest in the D League to pay for the development of their own talent.
Well, in their defense (and partially playing devil's advocate), they also have the disincentive that if they successfully built up their minor leagues and it decimated college basketball (or lowered it to the level of interest of college baseball) they would probably get bad PR from that as well. So not only would they have to spend money to build something that already exists, in a form where another entity can do it profitably, it might end up giving them bad PR!