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Title: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Pakuni on April 13, 2015, 01:00:10 PM
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
The Lakers plan to sign D-League's Vander Blue for final two games of the season, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: eg021 on April 13, 2015, 01:01:49 PM
Is Vander playing PG or SG in the d-league?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: frozena pizza on April 13, 2015, 01:17:53 PM
Maybe he'll play one game and then declare he's leaving early in hopes of joining a playoff team.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 13, 2015, 01:22:47 PM
Crazy, last couple weeks has been a good time to be an MU alum in the pros!
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: westcoastwarrior on April 13, 2015, 01:30:13 PM
Vander has been playing point guard.  He has improved his shot considerably...he is now a 3-point threat.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: JuniorCardigan on April 13, 2015, 01:40:34 PM
I'm still salty about him leaving early but hey, wasn't my decision to make. Hope he does well and gets something better than one of those 10-day contracts.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: JWags85 on April 13, 2015, 01:46:23 PM
Maybe he'll play one game and then declare he's leaving early in hopes of joining a playoff team.

Grow up. 
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Canned Goods n Ammo on April 13, 2015, 01:47:54 PM
Vander has been playing point guard.  He has improved his shot considerably...he is now a 3-point threat.

If Vander can hit a reasonable % from 3pt land, I think he'll be in the league for several seasons.

Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Benny B on April 13, 2015, 01:51:51 PM
Grow up. 

Come on.... that was funny.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 13, 2015, 01:54:17 PM
Buycks gets hurt and makes a spot for Vander? Talk about being a good bro!
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: swoopem on April 13, 2015, 01:57:29 PM
Is Buycks still on the roster? If so we'll have 8 guys in the league, plus 2 coaches. That's pretty solid.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: BM1090 on April 13, 2015, 02:10:27 PM
Is Buycks still on the roster? If so we'll have 8 guys in the league, plus 2 coaches. That's pretty solid.

Yeah. On the roster, just inactive.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Skitch on April 13, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
Who is the second coach besides Doc?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: swoopem on April 13, 2015, 03:26:14 PM
I'm almost positive Jim Boylan is on the bench for the Cavs.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 13, 2015, 03:46:24 PM
I'm almost positive Jim Boylan is on the bench for the Cavs.

Unless he was fired half way through the season he should still be there.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Bricky on April 13, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
Buycks gets hurt and makes a spot for Vander? Talk about being a good bro!

That's what I was thinking too.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 13, 2015, 05:21:57 PM
That's what I was thinking too.

Do the lakers now have a Marquette spot" on their roster?  I'd Vander can't keep it, next up DJO!
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 13, 2015, 05:32:32 PM
Somebody wake Doc up and get DJO on the Clippers!
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 13, 2015, 05:34:48 PM
Do the lakers now have a Marquette spot" on their roster?  I'd Vander can't keep it, next up DJO!

DJO has already been a laker
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 13, 2015, 06:02:32 PM
DJO has already been a laker

So bucks and Vander have his former spot!

Next up, Jamil Wilson
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 13, 2015, 06:11:00 PM
Is Buycks still on the roster? If so we'll have 8 guys in the league, plus 2 coaches. That's pretty solid.

Three coaches with Lawrence Frank under Doc.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: MUEng92 on April 13, 2015, 06:30:23 PM
Is that the same spot that started with Tony Smith?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: ChuckyChip on April 13, 2015, 06:37:50 PM
Is that the same spot that started with Tony Smith?

Actually goes back to Jim Chones (79-81) and Butch Lee(80).
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 13, 2015, 08:29:19 PM
Three coaches with Lawrence Frank under Doc.

He played at Indiana, he was a former assistant here but assistants come and go all the time I think swoopem was referring to former players. 
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: GGGG on April 13, 2015, 08:36:26 PM
BTW, did we know that Todd Mayo was waived by his D-League team back in January?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 13, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
He played at Indiana, he was a former assistant here but assistants come and go all the time I think swoopem was referring to former players. 

Masters degree at MU.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 13, 2015, 09:09:23 PM
BTW, did we know that Todd Mayo was waived by his D-League team back in January?

He was suspended in December for taking a shot at another player: http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=4905798

Then he was waived from the team a monthe later:
http://westchester.dleague.nba.com/news/westchester-knicks-waive-todd-mayo/

He was getting minutes the games in between, though.

Pretty awful stats:
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/gamecent/p/pid/6101335/playerview.html
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 13, 2015, 09:17:11 PM
Vander barely made it to Sacramento in time per the radio.  Got in under the gun to sign his contract and can play tonight
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 13, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
4 pts in 14 min at half.

Getting a solid opportunity here at least.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: JWags85 on April 13, 2015, 10:14:19 PM
Not only playing, but starting.  Man the Lakers are depleted, but good on Vander.  Wasn't the biggest fan of his decision, but he's grinded and worked really hard since leaving MU.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 13, 2015, 11:50:13 PM
Not only playing, but starting.  Man the Lakers are depleted, but good on Vander.  Wasn't the biggest fan of his decision, but he's grinded and worked really hard since leaving MU.

He definitely didn't start at least according to ESPN.

Maybe he started second half?

Either 26 minutes is nice. Missed his free throws though!!
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Skitch on April 13, 2015, 11:56:23 PM
Looks like they went all out getting him a jersey too

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CChjM_PWEAAsW0t.jpg)
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2015, 06:57:23 AM
I give Vander credit.  Definition of a grinder these past couple of years.  Man are the Lakers a hot mess or what?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2015, 06:59:20 AM
Who used to wear #2 for the Lakers? Luckily, it fit, ai na?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 14, 2015, 07:05:14 AM
BTW, did we know that Todd Mayo was waived by his D-League team back in January?

That's low.  Getting waived by the Knicks D-League team.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2015, 07:37:11 AM
So how common is this 'cup of coffee' thing?  We've now got several recent MU alums that have played a handful of games in their career.  Even Buycks has only appeared in 20 games despite being on a roster for a full year in Canada.  For comparison, Zar played in 72 games in his 2+ years in the league while Diener appeared in 179 over 5.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 14, 2015, 08:16:48 AM
Looks like they went all out getting him a jersey too

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CChjM_PWEAAsW0t.jpg)


This is amazing. "Ohhhhh you wanted 12 not 2......crap"

Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: MerrittsMustache on April 14, 2015, 09:10:05 AM
Who used to wear #2 for the Lakers? Luckily, it fit, ai na?

I'd assume it's the injured Wayne Ellington's #2 jersey. Regardless, Vander must think it's the most beautiful jersey he's has worn in a long time.

Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: JWags85 on April 14, 2015, 09:30:50 AM
He definitely didn't start at least according to ESPN.

Maybe he started second half?

Either 26 minutes is nice. Missed his free throws though!!

My mistake, I saw he was playing starters minutes early in the second half and assumed.

So how common is this 'cup of coffee' thing?  We've now got several recent MU alums that have played a handful of games in their career.  Even Buycks has only appeared in 20 games despite being on a roster for a full year in Canada.  For comparison, Zar played in 72 games in his 2+ years in the league while Diener appeared in 179 over 5.

I think it depends a lot on injuries and team situations.  Zar was a first round pick playing on a not-great Twolves team, so he was getting run there, and a bit less with the Thunder.

Buycks was on a very good Raptors team playing behind a star in Lowry and a good backup in Greivis Vasquez, so there wasn't alot of opportunity, a lot of DNP-Coach's Decision.

Now you look at the Lakers or a team like the Sixers or Knicks who have been out of the playoff picture forever, and if you are in their D-League organization, its a good potential, cause they are just trying things out and not really caring about winning games or setting a playoff roster.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: DienerTime34 on April 14, 2015, 09:41:28 AM
Anyone know what the payday is for 2 games in the NBA? Probably twice what he made the entire year in the D-League.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2015, 09:45:06 AM
1/41 of the Association minimum.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: GGGG on April 14, 2015, 09:49:06 AM
1/41 of the Association minimum.

So about $12,000.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: drewm88 on April 14, 2015, 09:53:42 AM
This article gives some insight on Dwight's $$ situation, which probably can tell you a lot about Vander's. Also says the Lakers were planning to sign Buycks through next year before the broken hand. Ugh.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-jeremy-lin-out-season-dwight-buycks-likely-return-20150412-story.html

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Buycks will have earned $48,028 over his contract with the Lakers.  He would cost an additional $14,408 for the final three days of the regular season.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2015, 10:01:53 AM
So about $12,000.


$12,374 + change
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: BossplayaOtto on April 14, 2015, 10:32:13 AM
1/41 of the Association minimum.

This isn't the NFL. Players don't get paid by the game or collect game checks. A 10-day contract during which period the team has 6 games pays the same as a 10-day if the team has 4 games.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: JWags85 on April 14, 2015, 10:49:13 AM
This article gives some insight on Dwight's $$ situation, which probably can tell you a lot about Vander's. Also says the Lakers were planning to sign Buycks through next year before the broken hand. Ugh.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-jeremy-lin-out-season-dwight-buycks-likely-return-20150412-story.html


That was just mentioning the financial/roster implications of if they would sign him through next year, not necessarily highlighting their intentions, beyond signing him past a 10-day, like the Suns did with Jerel.  Regardless, if they were considering him for 2015-2016, I would think his performance through the injury would be sufficient, absent 3 meaningless playground style games to end the year.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: MerrittsMustache on April 14, 2015, 10:58:09 AM
IIRC, 10-day contracts are worth 1/17 of the league minimum for each player based on service time.

In Van's case, it'll be just shy of $50k.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 14, 2015, 11:02:56 AM
So, does a playa sign a 10 day contract when there's only 4 days remainin' in da season?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Litehouse on April 14, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
Nice dunk for Vander...
http://www.nba.com/video/games/kings/2015/04/13/0021401211-lal-sac-play3.nba/
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 14, 2015, 11:59:20 AM
During the game  at the breaks they played Vander's highlights; Nice move out of a trap and across the lane for a layup, three-pointer and his steal and dunk. Played them again after the game. Players, coaches and commentators all said he played well for someone who showed up at the arena didn't talk to anyone ,including Byron Scott, and had no idea of plays, offensive and defensive schemes. Scored 7 points. 


Good outing
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: MU B2002 on April 14, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
Regardless, Vander must think it's the most beautiful jersey he's has worn in a long time.




As he should. 
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Avenue Commons on April 14, 2015, 02:37:46 PM
Vander is still only 22 and won't be 23 until July. NBA dreams for him aren't really that crazy.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: augoman on April 14, 2015, 03:56:24 PM
Actually goes back to Jim Chones (79-81) and Butch Lee(80).

actually goes back to William Earl Tatum- the black Jerry West.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2015, 06:03:09 PM
Looking forward to seeing Vander make the most of this opportunity
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 16, 2015, 12:20:50 AM
On the drive home tonight they said before today's game that the Lakers were down to 8 guys and Vander would start and probably play the whole game.  They weren't kidding.  All 48 minutes. 
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 16, 2015, 12:22:20 AM
Wow. Vander got to play whole game tonight.

The bad. He was 5-15 at one pt and I see he finished at 6-23 eeeeeek.

Good. Filled the stat sheet with 15-8-7
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: The Lens on April 16, 2015, 12:36:31 AM
If he had missed one more shot he could have been nba finals MVP.  #kobe
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 16, 2015, 06:21:12 AM
Wow. Vander got to play whole game tonight.

The bad. He was 5-15 at one pt and I see he finished at 6-23 eeeeeek.

Good. Filled the stat sheet with 15-8-7

Damn, also played 48 Min and had a (-/+) of -23 in a near 30 point loss.

#Extension
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on April 16, 2015, 09:13:07 AM
Vander's speed going to the basket was impressive. Jabari Parker bulled his way through the lane and Vander was at the rim in the blink of an eye.

  Both D League guards acquitted themselves well.

 
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: jsglow on April 16, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
Funny.  He can tout that he averaged 11ppg and led the Lakers in average minutes played in 14-15.

I hope he gets a roster spot somewhere next year.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on April 17, 2015, 05:13:48 AM
Funny.  He can tout that he averaged 11ppg and led the Lakers in average minutes played in 14-15.

I hope he gets a roster spot somewhere next year.
As do I....I hope the Bucks bring him in.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on April 17, 2015, 05:22:09 AM
I'd assume it's the injured Wayne Ellington's #2 jersey. Regardless, Vander must think it's the most beautiful jersey he's has worn in a long time.


When you look at it the Lakers have been very good to MU and I might have to cease being a Laker hater...lol and drop my 35 year old resentment of the Kareem Abdul Jabbar trade to them.

If you look at all the Wisconsin and former MU players that they have signed and given a shot at making their roster and become a part of that storied franchise down through the year:

Tony Smith, Lazar Heyward, Darius Johnson Odom, Jerel McNeal, Vander Blue, Dwight Buycks, Shannon Smith, Nick Van Exel, Caron Butler, and I am sure there might be more. . .

I must say, that is impressive. They like guys with Wisconsin and Milwaukee ties.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Benny B on April 17, 2015, 08:56:47 AM
As do I....I hope the Bucks bring him in.

You must be a Bulls fan, eh?
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: Mobot on April 17, 2015, 11:10:32 AM
Damn, also played 48 Min and had a (-/+) of -23 in a near 30 point loss.

#Extension

He played the entire game, so his (+/-) will match the amount they lost by.
Title: Re: Vander signed by the Lakers
Post by: jsglow on April 17, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
When you look at it the Lakers have been very good to MU and I might have to cease being a Laker hater...lol and drop my 35 year old resentment of the Kareem Abdul Jabbar trade to them.

If you look at all the Wisconsin and former MU players that they have signed and given a shot at making their roster and become a part of that storied franchise down through the year:

Tony Smith, Lazar Heyward, Darius Johnson Odom, Jerel McNeal, Vander Blue, Dwight Buycks, Shannon Smith, Nick Van Exel, Caron Butler, and I am sure there might be more. . .

I must say, that is impressive. They like guys with Wisconsin and Milwaukee ties.

The Kareem trade was fine.  Milwaukee wasn't the place for him anymore.  And he's certainly contributed to the city, especially in recent years.  All good.