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Title: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: classof2k on April 08, 2015, 11:36:16 PM
The WI loss (which I am still thoroughly enjoying) got me thinking... what is the most pleasure I've ever taken from watching a team (or individual I guess) lose.  The first three that came to mind:

1) 2015 NCAA Championship -- The aftermath (Badger whining) continues to separate it from the pack.
2) 2010 NFC Championship -- Vikings vs. Saints (Favre interception)
3) 1998 NFC Championship -- Vikings vs. Falcons (Gary Anderson missed field goal after being perfect all year)

I suspect that the recent GB loss to Seattle... or the Super Bowl XLII have to be up there for some folks.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: MUsoxfan on April 08, 2015, 11:39:43 PM
1) 2003 NLCS
2) 2005 NCAA title game
3) Any time Derrick Rose gets hurt
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: #UnleashSean on April 09, 2015, 02:05:58 AM
Quote from: MUsoxfan on April 08, 2015, 11:39:43 PM

3) Any time Derrick Rose gets hurt

Why on earth would you ever take pleasure in someone's lively hood being ruined?
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: MUsoxfan on April 09, 2015, 02:28:25 AM
Yeah, the 9-figure contract he has where he plays at his whim really kills his livelihood
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on April 09, 2015, 06:51:38 AM
Any time the Packers lose in the playoffs.

Hard to enjoy as much when I'm out of state. Last season would have been delicious.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: hairy worthen on April 09, 2015, 07:18:30 AM
Quote from: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on April 09, 2015, 06:51:38 AM
Any time the Packers lose in the playoffs.

Hard to enjoy as much when I'm out of state. Last season would have been delicious.

I feel deprived because the Bears rarely make the playoffs for me to enjoy them losing in them
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: CTWarrior on April 09, 2015, 07:45:31 AM
1.  2004 ALCS - Yanks blow 3-0 lead.  You think Wisconsin fans are bad, you should have met some Yankees fans circa late 90s/early 2000s.
2.  2008 Super Bowl - Pats perfect season ruined - Pats fans almost as bad as Yankees fans.
3.  1985 NCAA Championship Game - Nova stuns Georgetown - Really liked St Johns team that year (Mullin, Berry, Jackson) and was happy to see their nemesis go down in the finals.  Villanova would never have beaten St Johns.  Matchups.
4.  Buster Douglas KOs Mike Tyson - Tyson was the ultimate bully.
5.  2015 NCAA semi-final - Wisconsin ruins Kentucky's perfect season - I really don't like that smug Calipari.  This one was weird, because I didn't want Wisconsin to win either, and I could fully enjoy Kentucky's demise once Duke downed Wisconsin (though I don't like Duke, either.  Michigan State was the only FF team this year I could root for, and they were dispatched with ease.)

As you can see, I enjoy when cocky, dominant teams get their comeuppance. 
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: GGGG on April 09, 2015, 08:34:23 AM
Quote from: classof2k on April 08, 2015, 11:36:16 PM
2) 2010 NFC Championship -- Vikings vs. Saints (Favre interception)


There will never, ever be anything better than this for me.  This was just so perfect in so many ways.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 09, 2015, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: classof2k on April 08, 2015, 11:36:16 PM
The WI loss (which I am still thoroughly enjoying) got me thinking... what is the most pleasure I've ever taken from watching a team (or individual I guess) lose.  The first three that came to mind:

1) 2015 NCAA Championship -- The aftermath (Badger whining) continues to separate it from the pack.
2) 2010 NFC Championship -- Vikings vs. Saints (Favre interception)
3) 1998 NFC Championship -- Vikings vs. Falcons (Gary Anderson missed field goal after being perfect all year)



Great list, I'd add the Colts-Bears in Super Bowl XLI to that as well  ;D
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: MUfan12 on April 09, 2015, 08:56:56 AM
Quote from: classof2k on April 08, 2015, 11:36:16 PM
The WI loss (which I am still thoroughly enjoying) got me thinking... what is the most pleasure I've ever taken from watching a team (or individual I guess) lose.  The first three that came to mind:

1) 2015 NCAA Championship -- The aftermath (Badger whining) continues to separate it from the pack.
2) 2010 NFC Championship -- Vikings vs. Saints (Favre interception)

Definitely these two for me. I'd add Wilson's INT at the goal line in the Super Bowl as well. Can't stand Seattle.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Coleman on April 09, 2015, 09:03:20 AM
2013 BCS Championship game has to be up there
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: JoeSmith1721 on April 09, 2015, 09:05:30 AM
1) 2015 NCAA title game
2) 2005 NCAA title game
3) 2003 NLCS
4) 2013-14 Premier League Season - United finishing 7th
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: classof2k on April 09, 2015, 09:52:33 AM
Quote from: MUfan12 on April 09, 2015, 08:56:56 AM
I'd add Wilson's INT at the goal line in the Super Bowl as well. Can't stand Seattle.

Definitely top 10 for me.  I spend time in Seattle and got a lot of grief after the GB fiasco.  This was so fitting.  Wilson's WI connection made this even more pleasant.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on April 09, 2015, 10:04:18 AM
1.) Superbowl XXXII
2.) 2013 BCS Championship, (I knew ND would lose, was thrilled when they were embarrassed, perfect timing with Teo's fake GF)
3.) The 2000 ALDS (White Sox losing to Wild Card Mariners)
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: warriorchick on April 09, 2015, 10:10:16 AM
When Peyton Manning stayed for his senior year at Tennessee so he could win the Heisman, but Charles Woodson won it instead.

I have a family full of insufferable Vols fans.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: JuniorCardigan on April 09, 2015, 10:18:52 AM
I'd say the 2003 NLCS, one of the greatest meltdowns I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: PBRme on April 09, 2015, 10:29:35 AM
Last year OSU UWMad game
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: mikekinsellaMVP on April 09, 2015, 10:47:03 AM
January 2012.  Losses in the final seconds to Oregon in the Rose Bowl and Michigan State at the Kohl Hole on back-to-back nights.  Despite their claims of academic superiority, apparently no one in Madison knows how to read a clock.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: tower912 on April 09, 2015, 10:53:46 AM
1.  The ground ball rolling through Leon Durham's legs.
2.  Bartman.
3. The IU fanbase, after all of the stuff they said about MU when they landed Crean, realizing what kind of coach they had in Crean.
4. Brady Hoke.
5. April 6, 2015, and the aftermath as badger nation reveals its true nature to the country.   The rest of the country now knows what MU fans have known for years about badger fans. 
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 09, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
Ugh that 2005 national championship game was the worst. Still bitter about that game. Rumor has it Sean May is still setting illegal screens and committing offensive fouls....
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: HouWarrior on April 09, 2015, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 09, 2015, 07:45:31 AM
1.  2004 ALCS - Yanks blow 3-0 lead.  You think Wisconsin fans are bad, you should have met some Yankees fans circa late 90s/early 2000s.
2.  2008 Super Bowl - Pats perfect season ruined - Pats fans almost as bad as Yankees fans.
3.  1985 NCAA Championship Game - Nova stuns Georgetown - Really liked St Johns team that year (Mullin, Berry, Jackson) and was happy to see their nemesis go down in the finals.  Villanova would never have beaten St Johns.  Matchups.
4.  Buster Douglas KOs Mike Tyson - Tyson was the ultimate bully.
5.  2015 NCAA semi-final - Wisconsin ruins Kentucky's perfect season - I really don't like that smug Calipari.  This one was weird, because I didn't want Wisconsin to win either, and I could fully enjoy Kentucky's demise once Duke downed Wisconsin (though I don't like Duke, either.  Michigan State was the only FF team this year I could root for, and they were dispatched with ease.)

As you can see, I enjoy when cocky, dominant teams get their comeuppance. 
These are good, as I like the same comeuppance results.
I enjoyed the first Duke UNLV matchup in the NCAA finals when the announcers, including ACC Billy Packard fell all over themselves promoting the Duke academics over the BB Thugs...then they could barely smile or interview the thugs on their win...storyline ruined. LOL

Some of my own pain includes the NC State win over UH Phi Slamma Jamma.
NC Staters love my pain, there.

I enjoyed the Jets win over Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III...

and who cant laugh a little over UM losing to Appalacian State...at some level that program still hasnt recovered from that loss
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: MU82 on April 09, 2015, 11:52:04 AM
Quote from: theburreffect2 on April 09, 2015, 02:05:58 AM
Why on earth would you ever take pleasure in someone's lively hood being ruined?

I admit that a couple of my faves also involved injuries.

The Vikings lost to the Bears in 1990 in great part because the punter fumbled a snap. Afterward, instead of consoling his teammate, Keith Millard ripped him up and down. It was merciless. As if the guy didn't feel horrible enough. The very next week, Millard blew out his knee. He was done for the season and he never really was the same again. Karma is a bitch.

In 2001, the White Sox picked up David Wells because they thought he would be the missing piece to the World Series puzzle. Frank Thomas, who had an awesome year in 2000 as the Sox won the division, got hurt early on and missed a bunch of games and the White Sox stumbled. Wells went on the radio and said Thomas "lacked guts" for refusing to play with pain. It turned out that Thomas had a torn triceps and had to miss the rest of the season. Wells refused to apologize. He ended up going 5-7, helped sink the White Sox in the standings, and then suffered a back injury that required season-ending surgery. Or maybe he just lacked guts. I was happy he got his comeuppance.

I think those are very different than cheering about Derrick Rose's inability to stay healthy, though.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: tower912 on April 09, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: theburreffect2 on April 09, 2015, 02:05:58 AM
Why on earth would you ever take pleasure in someone's lively hood being ruined?
I agree.   Celebrating an injury is on a level with the average Wisconsin fan. 
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: reinko on April 09, 2015, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 09, 2015, 11:52:04 AM
I admit that a couple of my faves also involved injuries.

The Vikings lost to the Bears in 1990 in great part because the punter fumbled a snap. Afterward, instead of consoling his teammate, Keith Millard ripped him up and down. It was merciless. As if the guy didn't feel horrible enough. The very next week, Millard blew out his knee. He was done for the season and he never really was the same again. Karma is a bitch.

In 2001, the White Sox picked up David Wells because they thought he would be the missing piece to the World Series puzzle. Frank Thomas, who had an awesome year in 2000 as the Sox won the division, got hurt early on and missed a bunch of games and the White Sox stumbled. Wells went on the radio and said Thomas "lacked guts" for refusing to play with pain. It turned out that Thomas had a torn triceps and had to miss the rest of the season. Wells refused to apologize. He ended up going 5-7, helped sink the White Sox in the standings, and then suffered a back injury that required season-ending surgery. Or maybe he just lacked guts. I was happy he got his comeuppance.

I think those are very different than cheering about Derrick Rose's inability to stay healthy, though.

I don't Wells ever lacked guts.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-p8_JfAbv-Tg/Tiii3oWy3XI/AAAAAAAAABU/CWtHiLvJPBI/s320/David+Wells.jpg)
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: CTWarrior on April 09, 2015, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: houwarrior on April 09, 2015, 11:41:25 AM
Some of my own pain includes the NC State win over UH Phi Slamma Jamma.
NC Staters love my pain, there.

I wouldn't have called that one schadenfreude for me.  I was rooting for NC State, but basically I root for the underdog when I have no other natural rooting interest.  That Houston team (Olajuwon, Drexler, Micheaux, Alvin Franklin, Michael Young, Benny Anders) was so good and fun to watch.  If Guy Lewis didn't outsmart himself by trying to run clock instead of crushing NC State the last 5 minutes or so, I think Houston wins going away.

If you are a Red Sox fan you have many soul-crushing losses to choose from.  Luis Aparacio tripping over third base costing a tie in penultimate game of 1972 season costing the Red Sox the division title (The Sox lost to the Tigers by half a game because they played one less game because of the strike that year), blowing 3-0 leads in game 7 of the 1975 and 1986 World Series, the Bucky Dent game in 1978, the Bill Buckner game in 1986, the Grady Little/Aaron Boone game in 2003.  It all gets washed away when you win one, though, so Cubs fans keep the faith.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Eldon on April 09, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
Seeing Rich Gannon throw five picks in the Super Bowl. (He robbed Favre of his fourth MVP, so it was beautiful watching him and his team, which had Tim Brown and Jerry Rice, btw, go down in flames).  I feel kinda bad because Gannon is, by all accounts, a super great guy and he is also a huge Favre fan, but nonetheless he did not deserve that MVP.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: WarriorInNYC on April 09, 2015, 02:39:25 PM
Without trying to figure out my top list, one of the most recents was watching Johnny Manziel's first NFL start, 2 INTs, quarterback rating of 27.3, sacked three times.  I believe he also had 2 other interceptions that ended up being negated by penalties.  And then of course, after every bad play watching the Bengal players taunt him with his "money" sign.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: HouWarrior on April 09, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 09, 2015, 12:19:08 PM
I wouldn't have called that one schadenfreude for me.  I was rooting for NC State, but basically I root for the underdog when I have no other natural rooting interest.  That Houston team (Olajuwon, Drexler, Micheaux, Alvin Franklin, Michael Young, Benny Anders) was so good and fun to watch.  If Guy Lewis didn't outsmart himself by trying to run clock instead of crushing NC State the last 5 minutes or so, I think Houston wins going away.



Yup. That game may have cost Guy V. Lewis his place in the BB hall of fame for many years, until finally making it last year. Heck,  they even elected Jimmy V to the Hall before Guy V., despite Guy having 5 final fours, players like Elvin Hayes, Don Chaney, Otis Birdsong, Olajuwon, and Drexler..

..and Guy put Houston BB on the map. This years NCAA tourney, by example, had Houston kids including,: the UK Harrison brothers, Duke's Justise Winslow (son of UHer Ricky Winslow), Wich State Zach Brown(mom played Volleyball for UH),  UNC Justin Jackson , and OU Khadeem Lattin (son of Houston Comets Monica Lamb, and grandson of David "Big Daddy" Lattin--of Texas Western/Glory Road Fame).

I know I am getting old when I only recognize new players last names by their famous dads, and now even grandfather's. lol
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Tortuga94 on April 09, 2015, 08:34:51 PM
1)1988 World Series - Dodgers Vs. Athletics. I grew up in LA and I loved that Dodger team.
Everyone assumed the A's would steamroll the Dodgers. Gibby's homerun and the dominance of Hershiser still bring a smile to my face.

2)1988 NBA - Lakers Vs Pistons. Showtime Vs the Bad Boys. Laimbeer, Rodman, Mahorn, Salley, etc. They were a very dirty bunch. I hated that team. I know they would beat the Lakers the following year, but I thoroughly enjoyed that 88 series.

Future
Manny Pacquiao Vs Floyd Mayweather. I want to see Floyd lose so bad. I know it probably won't happen, but a guy can dream can't he.

Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 10, 2015, 07:58:37 AM
as a GB fan here's 2 more

Matt Millen's tenure leading the Detroit Lions

the Chicago Bears parade of starting QB's over the last 20 some years (and don't give me that sh!t about luck having Rodgers following Favre, the Bears could have drafted Rodgers but took Cedric Benson instead)
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: classof2k on April 10, 2015, 08:49:28 AM
Quote from: Michael Kenyon on April 10, 2015, 07:58:37 AM

Matt Millen's tenure leading the Detroit Lions


While I agree, this might be more cruel than the Derrick Rose/injury comments above.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2015, 08:52:57 AM
Quote from: Michael Kenyon on April 10, 2015, 07:58:37 AM
as a GB fan here's 2 more

Matt Millen's tenure leading the Detroit Lions

the Chicago Bears parade of starting QB's over the last 20 some years (and don't give me that sh!t about luck having Rodgers following Favre, the Bears could have drafted Rodgers but took Cedric Benson instead)

but ... but ... but ... Rodgers wasn't "rated" as highly as Benson!
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: tower912 on April 10, 2015, 08:53:14 AM
Nobody could believe it when Millen was hired.   Then we couldn't believe he lasted as long as he did.   The only person who didn't realize he was a disaster was the owner.  
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: chapman on April 10, 2015, 08:53:53 AM
Super Bowl XXXII was nice.  Took way too much crap as a Niners fan in those days, and it was great when the expected back to back title was halted by the heavy underdogs.  UW constantly losing Rose Bowls in recent years was cool too.  
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: warriorchick on April 10, 2015, 09:00:39 AM
Quote from: Tortuga94 on April 09, 2015, 08:34:51 PM

Manny Pacquiao Vs Floyd Mayweather. I want to see Floyd lose so bad. I know it probably won't happen, but a guy can dream can't he.



I'd really like to see this fight, but not enough to fork over a C-note for PPV.

Any Chicago-area Scoopers planning to watch this and willing to invite me over?  I'll bring the beer.   ;D
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on April 10, 2015, 09:43:05 AM
Quote from: JuniorCardigan on April 09, 2015, 10:18:52 AM
I'd say the 2003 NLCS, one of the greatest meltdowns I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing.

How can you feel Schadenfreude when the Cubs lose?  Its like enjoying finding out that a kid with leukemia's dog just died...
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2015, 10:45:27 AM
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on April 10, 2015, 09:43:05 AM
How can you feel Schadenfreude when the Cubs lose?  Its like enjoying finding out that a kid with leukemia's dog just died...

Well, kinda.

Their fans were absolutely insufferable that fall. Especially all the Cubbie-come-latelies who lined the streets outside the ballpark the night of Game 6.

The top of the 8th was the most amazing half-hour of sports I've ever witnessed in person. I had never seen a collapse like that before -- with the amount of drama and unusual circumstances -- and I'm pretty sure I never will again.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: MUEng92 on April 10, 2015, 10:57:33 AM
Your schadenfreudian moment says a lot about a person.  I discovered about 5-6 people that I have absolutely no interest in meeting outside this board.   The overlapping portion of the Venn diagram of our interests would be very small.

You are dead to me.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on April 10, 2015, 11:59:29 AM
Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on April 10, 2015, 09:43:05 AM
How can you feel Schadenfreude when the Cubs lose?  Its like enjoying finding out that a kid with leukemia's dog just died...

I find it interesting how many on this board are fans of MLB teams that make it to the World Series consistently. 
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on April 10, 2015, 12:53:29 PM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 10, 2015, 11:59:29 AM
I find it interesting how many on this board are fans of MLB teams that make it to the World Series consistently. 

Zero?
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: 77ncaachamps on April 10, 2015, 06:53:05 PM
No particular order:

- Wisconsin losing to Duke (2015 NCAA Final)
- Seattle losing to NE (2015 SB)
- Any time Crean loses
- 49ers beating the Packers in the NFC championship game.
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: tower912 on April 10, 2015, 07:18:38 PM
Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 10, 2015, 11:59:29 AM
I find it interesting how many on this board are fans of MLB teams that make it to the World Series consistently. 

I've been a Tiger fan since 1973.    My conscience is clear.   
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: Coleman on April 10, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on April 10, 2015, 09:00:39 AM
I'd really like to see this fight, but not enough to fork over a C-note for PPV.

Any Chicago-area Scoopers planning to watch this and willing to invite me over?  I'll bring the beer.   ;D

I'd guess most sports bars will carry it. I want to see it too. Was thinking about either going somewhere to watch or pooling together with a bunch of buddies at someone's house
Title: Re: Favorite schadenfreude moments?
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 11, 2015, 09:56:36 PM
the fab five losing in 1992 and 1993(timeout?)

they were too arrogant to deserve to win anything at that point in their careers; they needed to be humbled a bit
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