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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on April 06, 2015, 11:24:22 PM

Title: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 06, 2015, 11:24:22 PM
Incredibly Bucky is the sixth B1G team in the last 13 years to lose the final game.  No B1G team won the championship over this period.

Here is the history:

2002 Indiana loses to Maryland (not counting this Maryland team as B1G)
Indiana's next three seasons
* second round NCAA loss
* no post season
* NIT

2005 Illinois loses to North Carolina
Illinois' next three seasons
* second round NCAA loss
* first round NCAA loss
* no post season

2007 Ohio State lost to Florida
Ohio State's next three seasons
* NIT
* first round NCAA loss
* sweet sixteen

2009 Michigan State lost to North Carolina
Michigan State's next three seasons
* final four
* first round NCAA loss
* sweet sixteen

2013 Michigan lost to Lousiville
Michigan's next three seasons
* Elite 8
* no post season (this year)
* next year

2015 Wisconsin loses to Duke
Wisconsin's next three seasons
* ???
* ???
* ???

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Tom Izzo stands apart.

After that, not so hot.

So will Bucky follow in the non-MSU footsteps and be somewhere between a first round loss, the NIT and no post season?
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: wadesworld on April 06, 2015, 11:26:34 PM
Awesome. You've already stated this in numerous threads. Let's make a new thread dedicated to it! Look at my clicks on this one! I make exactly $0.00 for every click baby!
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 06, 2015, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 06, 2015, 11:26:34 PM
Awesome. You've already stated this in numerous threads. Let's make a new thread dedicated to it! Look at my clicks on this one! I make exactly $0.00 for every click baby!

This is the first thread I made looking at the B1G recent history.  It is also the first comment I ever made about the B1G recent history.

Time for wadesworld to go to bed.  He's over-tired tonight.  So drink your warm glass of milk, strap on the depends slip into bed quietly.  If you wake up Ms. Wadesworld, she will make you sleep in the superbar bed tonight!!!
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: Chicago_inferiority_complexes on April 07, 2015, 07:20:04 AM
Wow, that is pretty remarkable.

It seems like Izzo is in the FF every other year.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2015, 07:22:41 AM
The senior class of 2014 is the first to NOT go to a final 4 under Izzo this millennium.   And he handles wins and losses with dignity and class.    As opposed to.....
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: wadesworld on April 07, 2015, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: tower912 on April 07, 2015, 07:22:41 AM
The senior class of 2014 is the first to NOT go to a final 4 under Izzo this millennium.   And he handles wins and losses with dignity and class.    As opposed to.....

+1.  Big fan of Izzo.

Is he the only B1G coach with a Natty?  I believe the answer is yes.  It's pretty surprising how few conferences have coaches with a National Title.  Without having done the research and only thinking off the top of my head, do the current BE and Pac 12 all lack a coach who has won a National Championship?  And B1G only has Izzo, Big 12 only Self, and SEC only Donovan and Cal?  I'm sure I'm missing quite a few, but just quick thinking with no research it's hard to think of any.  Moral of the story, it's tough to win a National Championship.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: drewm88 on April 07, 2015, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 07, 2015, 01:15:49 PM
+1.  Big fan of Izzo.

Is he the only B1G coach with a Natty?  I believe the answer is yes.  It's pretty surprising how few conferences have coaches with a National Title.  Without having done the research and only thinking off the top of my head, do the current BE and Pac 12 all lack a coach who has won a National Championship?  And B1G only has Izzo, Big 12 only Self, and SEC only Donovan and Cal?  I'm sure I'm missing quite a few, but just quick thinking with no research it's hard to think of any.  Moral of the story, it's tough to win a National Championship.

Top of my head...

ACC - K, Roy, Boeheim, Pitino
SEC - Cal, Donovan
AAC - Ollie, Larry Brown
B12 - Self
MWC - Fisher
B10 - Izzo

I can't think of any other active coaches with titles. Somebody please feel free to correct.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: willie warrior on April 07, 2015, 01:35:32 PM
Where is the video of the Badger jumping off a cliff? That is the path we all want to see Bucky follow.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2015, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: drewm88 on April 07, 2015, 01:27:07 PM
Top of my head...

ACC - K, Roy, Boeheim, Pitino
SEC - Cal, Donovan
AAC - Ollie, Larry Brown
B12 - Self, Tubby
MWC - Fisher
B10 - Izzo

I can't think of any other active coaches with titles. Somebody please feel free to correct.

I think that is the only one you were missing
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: brewcity77 on April 07, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
Sounds like Hayes will come back, guessing Dekker is gone. I'd guess Bucky's starting five next year will be...

PG - Bronson Koenig (Jr)
SG - Zak Showalter (Jr)
SF - Nigel Hayes (Jr)
PF - Ethan Happ (RS Fr)
C - Vitto Brown (Jr)

Bench: Riley Dearring G (So), Alex Illikainen F (Fr), Brevin Pritzl G (Fr)

By Bo's standard, they will be pretty young, but Koenig and Hayes are a solid core. If one of those other guys can be the next Badger to make that big sophomore to junior jump, they'll be fine. Not near as good as this year, but probably good enough to make the tourney.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: Coleman on April 07, 2015, 04:21:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/drq7rf3.gif)
Title: Bucky Running Wild
Post by: MattyWarrior on April 07, 2015, 04:29:35 PM
Mean looking suckers.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 07, 2015, 07:05:02 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 07, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
Sounds like Hayes will come back, guessing Dekker is gone. I'd guess Bucky's starting five next year will be...

PG - Bronson Koenig (Jr)
SG - Zak Showalter (Jr)
SF - Nigel Hayes (Jr)
PF - Ethan Happ (RS Fr)
C - Vitto Brown (Jr)

Bench: Riley Dearring G (So), Alex Illikainen F (Fr), Brevin Pritzl G (Fr)

By Bo's standard, they will be pretty young, but Koenig and Hayes are a solid core. If one of those other guys can be the next Badger to make that big sophomore to junior jump, they'll be fine. Not near as good as this year, but probably good enough to make the tourney.

From what I've heard, Ethan Happ should be the biggest pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: willie warrior on April 07, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on April 07, 2015, 04:21:48 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/drq7rf3.gif)
Perfect! That is the Rodent's direction.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 07, 2015, 07:26:44 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 07, 2015, 03:58:56 PM
Sounds like Hayes will come back, guessing Dekker is gone. I'd guess Bucky's starting five next year will be...

PG - Bronson Koenig (Jr)
SG - Zak Showalter (Jr)
SF - Nigel Hayes (Jr)
PF - Ethan Happ (RS Fr)
C - Vitto Brown (Jr)

Bench: Riley Dearring G (So), Alex Illikainen F (Fr), Brevin Pritzl G (Fr)

By Bo's standard, they will be pretty young, but Koenig and Hayes are a solid core. If one of those other guys can be the next Badger to make that big sophomore to junior jump, they'll be fine. Not near as good as this year, but probably good enough to make the tourney.

Thanks for your badgers depth chart update, we all needed that
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: GGGG on April 07, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 07, 2015, 07:26:44 PM
Thanks for your badgers depth chart update, we all needed that

The OP asked a question, and brew posted information in response.

Why are you always so belligerent?
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: eg021 on April 07, 2015, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: LittleWade on April 07, 2015, 07:05:02 PM
From what I've heard, Ethan Happ should be the biggest pleasant surprise.

I've heard rumblings of him being good in practice too. After the buzz was saying jamil Wilson was dominating practices, it doesn't always translate to game day productivity.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: drewm88 on April 08, 2015, 10:18:15 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 07, 2015, 03:39:54 PM
I think that is the only one you were missing

Thanks, completely forgot Tubby was there. Crazy that only 12 active guys have a title, and 5 may be gone in a few years (Donovan, K, Boeheim, Fisher, Brown).
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 08, 2015, 11:59:04 AM
But is Happ going to be Dan Fitzgerald good?
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: Warrior Code on April 08, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: drewm88 on April 08, 2015, 10:18:15 AM
Thanks, completely forgot Tubby was there. Crazy that only 12 active guys have a title, and 5 may be gone in a few years (Donovan, K, Boeheim, Fisher, Brown).

Donovan is only 49, unless you mean NBA. In that case, I might add Cal to the list.
Title: Re: Will Bucky Follow In These Footsteps?
Post by: drewm88 on April 08, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
Quote from: Warrior Code on April 08, 2015, 01:00:01 PM
Donovan is only 49, unless you mean NBA. In that case, I might add Cal to the list.

Yup, NBA. I think Donovan is likely to make the jump, but I doubt it with Cal. Just my $.02.
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