Cooley T'd up for trying to pump up his team during a timeout.
Officiating extremely unbalanced and unfair.
Quote from: forgetful on March 20, 2015, 11:53:33 PM
Cooley T'd up for trying to pump up his team during a timeout.
Officiating extremely unbalanced and unfair.
Game was already over.
Screwed by themselves. A bunch of 1 on 1 chucking. 5-22 for Henton, 4-13 with 6 turnovers for Dunn.
Not to mention, playing the lower seeded Dayton in Columbus.
Refs were one sided, homecourt was a disadvantage, but that's no excuse for playing maybe your worst game of the year on the biggest stage.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 20, 2015, 11:56:41 PM
Game was already over.
True, but that call was uncalled for and a horrendously bad call. That official should be banned from any future tournament games.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on March 20, 2015, 11:59:18 PM
Refs were one sided, homecourt was a disadvantage, but that's no excuse for playing maybe your worst game of the year on the biggest stage.
They have played bad. Pressing too much. Panic the entire game.
They played awful no doubt.
But that reffing all game was beyond idiotic.
And an 11 seed getting basically 3 home games shows the committee just closes their eyes and picks
Providence finally puts together a great season and they get this disrespect. Playing a lower seeded team in front of thousands of Dayton fans. It's not Dayton's fault. But you'd think the committee would have better judgement.
Quote from: forgetful on March 20, 2015, 11:53:33 PM
Cooley T'd up for trying to pump up his team during a timeout.
Officiating extremely unbalanced and unfair.
Game was way over. lol.
Quote from: theburreffect2 on March 21, 2015, 12:11:22 AM
Game was way over. lol.
Down 8 with 3:40ish left isn't way over
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on March 21, 2015, 12:56:51 AM
Down 8 with 3:40ish left isn't way over
Were you watching that game? crap was long over.
Thought the Eastern Washington - Georgetown game was poorly officiated until I saw this game. One of the most lopsided officiating games I've seen in a long time.
How does a play-in team get a home game?
Quote from: Shark on March 21, 2015, 12:06:29 AM
Providence finally puts together a great season and they get this disrespect. Playing a lower seeded team in front of thousands of Dayton fans. It's not Dayton's fault. But you'd think the committee would have better judgement.
It's not in any way "disrespect." They are a six seed. It's out of their hands.
Quote from: Nukem2 on March 20, 2015, 11:56:41 PM
Game was already over.
8 point game with 3:52 to go? Not over.
This game was partially decided by the committee, partially by the officials, partially by the players. Cooley's T was consistent with the officiating during the rest of the game. On the block of the dunk attempt that they keep showing, the Dayton defender's arm is in contact with Dunn's arm from elbow to wrist. Some of Dayton's steals were similar to what Louisville got away with at the end of the UCI game.
Officiating doesn't usually dictate outcome, but sometimes it does. Providence-Dayton was one of those games.
BTW, as long as Archie Miller is coaching Dayton, I would welcome them into the Big East.
Dayton, the last team in the NCAA tournament, essentially played two home games to kick things off this week. nice job NCAA!
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 21, 2015, 08:45:28 AM
Dayton, the last team in the NCAA tournament, essentially played two home games to kick things off this week. nice job NCAA!
Don't blame them. That's just the way the dice fell. Out of their hands. Crapshoot.
It wasn't Dayton's fault, but it was the NCAA's fault. They could have bumped Dayton to UCLA's spot, or at least seed them into anywhere but Columbus in the next game.
Watching Providence play last night reminded me of our Michigan State Game 8 or 9 years ago...a team that just could not buy offence.
Total crap that Dayton got such home cooking.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2015, 09:06:29 AM
It wasn't Dayton's fault, but it was the NCAA's fault. They could have bumped Dayton to UCLA's spot, or at least seed them into anywhere but Columbus in the next game.
Eh. I don't think NCAA needs to worry about the advantage of having a 11 seed playing a 6 seed 70 miles from home. Really this isn't an issue.
Quote from: NYWarrior on March 21, 2015, 08:45:28 AM
Dayton, the last team in the NCAA tournament, essentially played two home games to kick things off this week. nice job NCAA!
And a third tomorrow. Just odd...mainly that they were the last one in. The committee has done a good job overall but they screwed this one up. No way should UD have been a play in game.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 21, 2015, 11:17:15 AM
And a third tomorrow. Just odd...mainly that they were the last one in. The committee has done a good job overall but they screwed this one up. No way should UD have been a play in game.
The only issue is that I have no idea what the alternative there is for the committee with regards to the play in game.
Do they have a back up locale lined up just in case Dayton is in the play in game? How does that work with television, ticket sales, etc.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2015, 11:22:51 AM
The only issue is that I have no idea what the alternative there is for the committee with regards to the play in game.
Do they have a back up locale lined up just in case Dayton is in the play in game? How does that work with television, ticket sales, etc.
Well the issue is that dayton shouldn't even have been in the play in game to begin with. Nobody that so. So at the very least even if the committee were the only people on earth who had UCLA higher than dayton...once they saw dayton would be playing in at home they should have made the swap.
And heck they at least could have swapped the play in games. BYU and their stupid rules must play Thursday/Saturday though. So I'd be Dayton vs byu to play X.
Avoids the 2nd and 3rd home games
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2015, 10:50:18 AMEh. I don't think NCAA needs to worry about the advantage of having a 11 seed playing a 6 seed 70 miles from home. Really this isn't an issue.
So it wouldn't be an advantage if an 11-seed Wisconsin played a 6-seed from across the country at the BC?
There's no reason that has to happen. The 11-seeds play at four different sites. Three of them are not an hour from Dayton. No excuse for this.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2015, 12:07:22 PM
So it wouldn't be an advantage if an 11-seed Wisconsin played a 6-seed from across the country at the BC?
There's no reason that has to happen. The 11-seeds play at four different sites. Three of them are not an hour from Dayton. No excuse for this.
I didn't say it wouldn't be an advantage. I said that the NCAA didn't need to take into consideration if an 11 seed is possibly playing 70 miles from home. You place the top 16 seeds, make sure no one is playing at home, and let the chips fall where they may.
It's never going to be completely fair. You just have to deal with it.
It does seem unfortunate that a play-in team isn't then asked to jet further from home. I feel the same way about the Warriors having to play 15 hours after beating the Hall. Nova earned it; we didn't. Take it like a man.
Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2015, 08:27:12 AM
BTW, as long as Archie Miller is coaching Dayton, I would welcome them into the Big East.
We're not friends anymore.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 21, 2015, 12:07:22 PM
There's no reason that has to happen. The 11-seeds play at four different sites. Three of them are not an hour from Dayton. No excuse for this.
Absolutely agree with that, but the NCAA has to pretend that they're concerned about their "student athletes" missing class time, and whatever other b.s. they trot out. It is total garbage that Dayton barely was invited to this thing, and literally have played one home game, and now two de facto home games. Archie Miller himself admitted after last night's game that it felt like a home game for his team.
Sultan, you're right in your earlier post that it will never be perfectly fair for everyone, but the NCAA could easily avoid situations like this and make it a little closer to perfect.
Quote from: PandTandMand... on March 21, 2015, 12:31:29 PM
We're not friends anymore.
I have been consistent in saying I think Dayton should be in the big east. Don't let a little thing like that ruin a friendship.
Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2015, 01:24:49 PM
I have been consistent in saying I think Dayton should be in the big east. Don't let a little thing like that ruin a friendship.
I'd happily take them, but I'm not sure there's anyone else in the country worth adding, unless UConn wants to drop football (I jest...won't happen).
I don't think there was a soul outside of the selection committee that believed that UD was "on the bubble" and deserved a "first four" game. In that respect, UD got hosed. We never should have had to win a game to get into the 2nd round. As for playing in Columbus in the 2nd and 3rd round, it's an advantage. But UD fans travel well, and we probably would have outnumbered Providence fans almost anywhere. We did not have refs biased towards UD, however. UD plays small-ball out of necessity. In most games this year we have given up a tremendous rebounding advantage in return for a quickness advantage with our frontcourt players. That has led to us getting to the line a lot. Also, our players know that they can't give up cheap fouls due to only having a 7 player rotation. If they get beat and are out of position, in many cases they just give up the lay-up instead of fouling.
Also, we lose something on offense when we have Kyle Davis in the game, but he is a fantastic defender, and he affected Dunn's game heavily. The rest of the team has played a hard-scrambling game on defense. We had to do that this year because we have to attempt to double the post with no player over 6'6". Defensively, we were a very unique team this year. Providence wasn't ready for those small-ball match-ups.