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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on March 15, 2015, 03:00:44 PM

Poll
Question: How will win the NCAA Tournament?
Option 1: Kentucky votes: 54
Option 2: The Field (aka anyone else) votes: 50
Title: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 15, 2015, 03:00:44 PM
This poll is inspired by the thread on this subject.
Mods, please feel free to merge this with that thread.

I took the field
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: Johnny B on March 15, 2015, 05:00:46 PM
Wow guys how can u go against Kentucky. ......idiots
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: 🏀 on March 15, 2015, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on March 15, 2015, 05:00:46 PM
Wow guys how can u go against Kentucky. ......idiots

Simple statistics...idiot.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: ecompt on March 15, 2015, 05:43:21 PM
One bad game and UK goes down. Bucky could definitely beat them.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: GGGG on March 15, 2015, 05:44:27 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on March 15, 2015, 05:00:46 PM
Wow guys how can u go against Kentucky. ......idiots


What's with the name calling?
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: willie warrior on March 15, 2015, 06:03:45 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 15, 2015, 05:44:27 PM

What's with the name calling?
C'mon Sultan--I agree with you, but that is SOP for about 1/3 the scoop posters when somebody posts an opinion not liked by another guy.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: StillAWarrior on March 15, 2015, 07:04:20 PM
I voted for the Field.  I always take the Field.  The fact that Kentucky made me seriously re-think a position I have held firmly for more than two decades is a testament to just how amazing Kentucky is this year.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: GoldenZebra on March 15, 2015, 07:16:35 PM
Quote from: ecompt on March 15, 2015, 05:43:21 PM
One bad game and UK goes down. Bucky could definitely beat them.

...HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH. no.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: GGGG on March 15, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
UNLV back in 1991 had five players who were eventually drafted into the NBA.  Defending national champions.  Undefeated.  Seemed unbeatable.

And lost.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2015, 08:44:01 PM
Kentucky 41% chance to win it all per 538 sports

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/march-madness-predictions-2015/#mens


Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: brewcity77 on March 15, 2015, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2015, 08:44:01 PMKentucky 41% chance to win it all per 538 sports

http://fivethirtyeight.com/interactives/march-madness-predictions-2015/#mens

Willing to wager that's far higher than their odds of getting here at 34-0, also probably much higher than any other top seed of the past decade.

Felt 40-0 was a decent bet ever since the twins and company came back. Spot me 34 wins and it's an easy call.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: bilsu on March 15, 2015, 08:57:54 PM
I voted Kentucky. They won their conference tournament with ease this year. Their last championship team lost in the conference tournament.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Vegas has made Kentucky even odds.

The field, 100-1.


Wisconsin 6-1.

Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: CTWarrior on March 16, 2015, 09:10:32 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Vegas has made Kentucky even odds.

The field, 100-1.


Wisconsin 6-1.



What does the field 100-1 mean?  If Kentucky is even money, wouldn't the balance of the field also be even money?  I suppose that numbers eliminates more than just Kentucky, but who else isn't included?

I'd take Kentucky over the field, but I wouldn't wager a whole lot on it.  If you figure they have a 90% chance to win every game, that makes ther odds of winning 53.1%.  I understand they are really 100% in game 1, but they are probably under 90% in the last couple.  50-50 feels about right.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 16, 2015, 09:23:42 AM
I think of it this way....

Figure the first two rounds they have a 99% of winning each game.

Then I figure the Sweet Sixteen game they have a 97% of winning.  I would put the Elite Eight game at 90%.

Now the two Final Four games is another story.  Probably each about 80% of winning.

If you add up the probabilities that is 54% of winning it all.  Still clearly the favorite as no one else would be close to 54% but certainly no lock.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: NavinRJohnson on March 16, 2015, 09:24:01 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 15, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
UNLV back in 1991 had five players who were eventually drafted into the NBA.  Defending national champions.  Undefeated.  Seemed unbeatable.

And lost.

Yep, but there is a big difference with Kentucky...they have more than five guys...more like 10. They are far less susceptible to one bad game, because if 2-3 guys are having an off night, they have more where they can from to pick them up. Ordinarily I would go with the field,p but that is the biggest reason I believe they will get it done. No team has had the quality depth, size etc. they have.

Even if someone like Cauley-stein has a bad day, foul trouble, etc., with few exceptions, they will have the advantage at all 5 positions, every minute of every game. Not to mention, calipari is under appreciated as a coach. He is every bit the coach as nearly anyone they will face.

Of course they can lose, but unlike others who have been in the position before, I just think they are too deep, too big, and too good.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: MDMU04 on March 16, 2015, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Vegas has made Kentucky even odds.

The field, 100-1.


Wisconsin 6-1.



Considering the money line on the field is -130, if someone gives you 100-1 odds on the field, you take that bet every single time.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 16, 2015, 09:43:07 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 15, 2015, 09:24:52 PM
Vegas has made Kentucky even odds.
The field, 100-1.
Wisconsin 6-1.

This is misleading.  Vegas has odds for about 60 teams.  The rest of the teams, not among these 60, are considered "the field."  This should be 10,000 to 1 that one of these teams will win it all.

Vegas has not yet established a "not Kentucky" bet.  At least they have not as of three days ago when
I last checked.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2015, 11:01:23 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on March 15, 2015, 05:00:46 PM
Wow guys how can u go against Kentucky. ......idiots

The idiots have spoken.....

:D
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: SWARM! on April 05, 2015, 12:17:34 AM
Quote from: GoldenZebra on March 15, 2015, 07:16:35 PM
...HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH. no.

Nah?
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 05, 2015, 08:37:08 AM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 04, 2015, 11:01:23 PM
The idiots have spoken.....

:D

Which of Nate's charities are you donating to?

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 22, 2014, 03:48:45 PM
Lol.

I'll take the bet on Bucky getting to the Final Four if interested.  Money to charity.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 05, 2015, 09:16:44 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on April 05, 2015, 08:37:08 AM
Which of Nate's charities are you donating to?


Nov comment vs right before the tournament.  I made my bet in Tahoe, I walked the walked with the dinero.   :)

Honestly, I thought North Carolina would beat Wisconsin, they had them but they choked. I knew Wisconsin would beat Arizona and obviously bet on the Badgers to beat Kentucky.  Think Duke has a good shot to win, better than Kentucky did.
Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: wadesworld on April 05, 2015, 02:36:57 PM
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Title: Re: Poll: Kentucky or the Field
Post by: brewcity77 on April 05, 2015, 03:36:06 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 05, 2015, 02:36:57 PM
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