And we are officially are in last place in the Big East
Silver lining? Away from Nova in the BET. Woo!
Yippee! We're in line for the coveted 10th seed!
Don't let me down boys, I want that 10 seed!
At least it can't any worse, what a piss of a season.
51!years of futility!
At the beginning of the season, I would have bet a decent chunk of change that Marquette WOULD NOT end up in last place.
Yet here we are. Maybe we can find a way out of the cellar the last four games of the season?
Creighton has @ Seton Hall, home vs. Nova, and home vs. X left.
We have @ Butler, @ Providence, and home versus St. John's and DePaul.
If Creighton wins any of those three I think we will have that coveted #10 seed. If they lose out I would say we finish ninth.
Best just to finish last. Bracket is much easier. First game vs DePaul. I will take our chances.
Let's be realistic. It really means very to have some minor perceived advantage in the BE tournament by being in last place. We are not going to win the BE and go to the NCAA or all of a sudden take some miracle positive turn.
The best way to end the season is play hard, progress and win as many games as we can in preparation for next year. The best part of this season is it gives all of us a greater appreciation as to how difficult it is to be a winner. Some day, when we are it will be all the sweeter, until then keep the hope and support the team.
I just want to see a win on senior day. Because it's DePaul, because it'd be a nice way for Derrick and Juan to go out, and because it will look better for Traci Carter.
Those of us who took 10-14 wins in the preseason poll are not surprised.
I think Wojo's just playing for a draft pick now.
We'll be better next year just by getting some butts in seats. When there's two minutes remaining in the game and you have one guy on the bench who isn't in a suit or warm-ups it's hard to expect to win.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on February 24, 2015, 10:38:53 PM
At the beginning of the season, I would have bet a decent chunk of change that Marquette WOULD NOT end up in last place.
Yet here we are. Maybe we can find a way out of the cellar the last four games of the season?
Creighton has @ Seton Hall, home vs. Nova, and home vs. X left.
We have @ Butler, @ Providence, and home versus St. John's and DePaul.
If Creighton wins any of those three I think we will have that coveted #10 seed. If they lose out I would say we finish ninth.
WooHoo. Firmly entrenched in last place. Thank you phony cowboy/hillbilly!
Quote from: Class71 on February 25, 2015, 01:14:03 AM
Let's be realistic. It really means very to have some minor perceived advantage in the BE tournament by being in last place. We are not going to win the BE and go to the NCAA or all of a sudden take some miracle positive turn.
The best way to end the season is play hard, progress and win as many games as we can in preparation for next year. The best part of this season is it gives all of us a greater appreciation as to how difficult it is to be a winner. Some day, when we are it will be all the sweeter, until then keep the hope and support the team.
I agree that I just want them to play hard and do what they can to win, but I'd be good if Creighton kept winning along with us. A small little tourney run of a couple of games would also be a nice way to end the season, and that isn't happening with Nova in front of us..... okay maybe it's not happening regardless, but there's not happening and then there's not happening.
9th vs. 10th doesn't mean much. There is no celebrating a 9th place finish any more than a 10th.
#wojotosmu
While winning zero tournament games is still the most likely scenario, if they are in the bottom half and have everyone available to play, winning a couple games is not completely out of the realm of possibilities. Playing on Friday night would at least bring a little bit of interest and excitement to season that frankly has had none. Unlikely? Absolutely, this team isn't any good, but not impossible.
The team should play to win, which with maybe one or two exceptions, they've done this year they just haven't actually won on the scoreboard. I expect that to continue and we split the last 4 games of the season. I still think we finish last, which I'm fine with because I don't think it's representative of this team performance and it may let us sneak up on some people next year.
Respect the process
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on February 25, 2015, 08:02:56 AM
While winning zero tournament games is still the most likely scenario, if they are in the bottom half and have everyone available to play, winning a couple games is not completely out of the realm of possibilities. Playing on Friday night would at least bring a little bit of interest and excitement to season that frankly has had none. Unlikely? Absolutely, this team isn't any good, but not impossible.
Hey, if we can't get to 7th, might as well be 10th so I can watch the games in the evening.
Quote from: Class71 on February 25, 2015, 01:14:03 AM
Let's be realistic. It really means very to have some minor perceived advantage in the BE tournament by being in last place. We are not going to win the BE and go to the NCAA or all of a sudden take some miracle positive turn.
The best way to end the season is play hard, progress and win as many games as we can in preparation for next year. The best part of this season is it gives all of us a greater appreciation as to how difficult it is to be a winner. Some day, when we are it will be all the sweeter, until then keep the hope and support the team.
Exactly.
As Herm Edwards says: "You play to win the game."
I expect nothing less from Wojo's boyz.
If playing hard all the time and maybe even playing well a couple times leads to victories that vault them to 9th place, so be it. If they lose 'em all and finish 10th, so be it. There is no extra pride or extra boost involved in avoiding last place, nor is there any reason to start any "We're No. 9!" chant.
I think it's great we're in 10th. Go from having zero expectations in MSG to having absolutely zero expectations in MSG. More importantly, if we can shake some rust off Carlino these last few games he's the type of shooter that can get hot for a couple nights and cause a problem in a conference tournament, especially since our opponents are likely to have all the pressure of trying to make the NCAA Tournament.
Marquette gets to Friday night in MSG I'd count it like a Championship.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on February 25, 2015, 09:19:15 AM
Marquette gets to Friday night in MSG I'd count it like a Championship.
Same.
(http://a1.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/RSN/Wisconsin/2015/01/16/PI-CBK-Matt-Carlino-11615.vadapt.620.high.0.jpg) (http://blog.syracuse.com/today/2009/06/smb_090612_sdc_gmac.jpg)
Huh? Huh?
Past performance is not a guarantee of future earnin's, ai na?
Quote from: Johnny B on February 24, 2015, 10:21:13 PM
At least it can't any worse, what a piss of a season.
Badgers winning NCAA championship would make it worse.
Creighton, I believe was 0-8 in conference so they are playing very well after that start. The opposite of DePaul & Seton hall
Quote from: MU82 on February 25, 2015, 08:33:00 AM
There is no extra pride or extra boost involved in avoiding last place, nor is there any reason to start any "We're No. 9!" chant.
I do have to say, though, that every national hack next season will be throwing out phrases like "dead last" and "bottom of the barrel" in their preseason write-ups, which I would not relish. So there would be a small benefit to finishing 9th.
And by "hacks", I mean those several levels above Myron Medcalf... I shudder to think what incoherent half-truths he'd come up with.
Quote from: bilsu on February 25, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
Creighton, I believe was 0-8 in conference so they are playing very well after that start. The opposite of DePaul & Seton hall
and us.
Quote from: bilsu on February 25, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
Creighton, I believe was 0-8 in conference so they are playing very well after that start. The opposite of DePaul & Seton hall
Yep. I'd much rather play DePaul/Seton Hall than Creighton at this point.
I'm in the camp that wants to see Creighton win as many as possible. That leaves two options. MU wins a game or two out of these last four, ending the regular season on a positive note, as it would be a sign that the young guys are continuing to develop. If MU can't get the job done in any of these last four games, we claim the #10 spot...with Nova on the other side of the bracket.
Now, I'm not delusional enough to really believe MU will win the BE tourney - we would have to win four games, which is one more than we've won in conference so far. However, when you look at each game on a standalone basis, there's still potential that MU can make it fun at the Garden. The young guys have learned a bit about being leaders with Carlino out (see effort in Nova game), so it will be interesting to see how the team plays with its best shooter back. We've already played each of the Big East teams, and we've been competitive at least once with each of the teams except Nova.
Based on today's standings, MU would get DePaul first. Regardless of the standings, none of us would be surprised to see MU knock off DePaul. Next up is likely Georgetown...a six-point loss on the road, and a loss in OT at home. Advantage Georgetown, but we certainly can compete. Based on current standings, next up is Butler or Xavier. So far, our only game against Butler was an OT loss at home...and we'll see what happens tonight. Xavier...well...let's forget about the game at home without Carlino...we only lost by four at Xavier after wasting away a great first half. So...MU theoretically could face a reeling DePaul team, a team it took to OT, another team it took to OT...then whatever comes out of the other side of the bracket.
Like I said, there's no reason for confidence with three conference wins...but the six guys playing in the Nova game were impressive...and Carlino's presence will spread the defense and give us the opportunity to keep more offensive-minded players on the court. Are we going to win the tourney? Very doubtful, but I still think there could be some fun along the way. So...I'll keep pulling for Marquette...and Creighton.
Win every day.
Quote from: tower912 on February 25, 2015, 06:23:46 AM
Those of us who took 10-14 wins in the preseason poll are not surprised.
Except that you got an assist (so to speak) when Deonte and John transferred, and now Matt and Juan have suffered injuries. Any team is going to be worse than reasonable expectations when it plays much of the season with 8, then 7, then 6 scholarship players.
In any event, it's great to see the team still fighting.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 25, 2015, 11:13:46 AM
and us.
In a sense I do not disagree. However, one has to remember that this season we have seen three distinct Warrior teams. The first had Bain, but not Fischer. This team, when playing man to man, gave upon more layups than a sixth grade CYO team ... hello zone defence.
The second was the Fischer team minus two. This team came within the proverbial whisker of winning three or four games ... good defence, but fade-o-rama in the last five minutes. The loses hurt whatever confidence this team might have had during the first part of the Big East league play.
The third Warrior team is composed of the twins, plus six scholarship players to help them out. This is the most interesting team because it is the future. Maybe, for that reason, I like this team the most of all.
It appears it may all come together for these 5 under-classmen yet this year. Obviously, we will see in these last games.
Quote from: tower912 on February 25, 2015, 06:23:46 AM
Those of us who took 10-14 wins in the preseason poll are not surprised.
Yeah I was gonna say, how were you not surprised / shocked by Matt landing directly on his head as well as Deonte's mom dying and the subsequent transfer? Those events were hard to predict although apparently you predicted it first, I can't say for sure but we probably win a few more games with those guys playing.
Quote from: 21rooster on February 25, 2015, 11:41:46 AM
So...MU theoretically could face a reeling DePaul team, a team it took to OT, another team it took to OT...then whatever comes out of the other side of the bracket.
Hello Big East Tourney Title!
This entire thread is equal parts hilarious and sad.
Why, because I'm saying the last-place team has a shot to win the conference tourney??? Nobody actually thinks it could happen...but it would make the tourney a little more fun if they get to play DePaul in the first game...just to get the hopes up for a day or two. Nothing wrong with having a little fun with the scenarios, as long as you don't get all worked up when they don't happen!
Quote from: wadesworld on February 25, 2015, 11:56:51 AM
Win every day.
I was hoping stupid coach catch phrases would die with the last coach ("I want players that can dribble, pass and shoot" ... uh OK) and Win Every Day really sucks when you're losing every day.
Quote from: DienerTime34 on February 25, 2015, 02:54:02 PM
I was hoping stupid coach catch phrases would die with the last coach ("I want players that can dribble, pass and shoot" ... uh OK) and Win Every Day really sucks when you're losing every day.
I don't think you understand...
Quote from: yetipro on February 25, 2015, 12:36:48 PM
Yeah I was gonna say, how were you not surprised / shocked by Matt landing directly on his head as well as Deonte's mom dying and the subsequent transfer? Those events were hard to predict although apparently you predicted it first, I can't say for sure but we probably win a few more games with those guys playing.
THE FIX IS IN!!!