Getting on a plane so will miss the game live. Best luck to the team and hope Matt Carlino gets better soon.
JjJ with no headband. need him to step up big, like that.
no head band for jjj, that's a good sign...I hpe
Jjj ditching the headband and ready to play. Nice drive and dish there.
Chatroom open (http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php)
Quote from: eg021 on February 07, 2015, 11:09:54 AM
Jjj ditching the headband and ready to play. Nice drive and dish there.
Agree, right now he is playing within himself, but still attacking and playing solid D. I wonder if the man to man is in part because JJJ will be playing a lot.
STEVE!!
Who are these guys in blue!?!
Quote from: forgetful on February 07, 2015, 11:12:08 AM
Agree, right now he is playing within himself, but still attacking and playing solid D. I wonder if the man to man is in part because JJJ will be playing a lot.
"Playing within himself?" He's forced action like he always does. Creates loos for him and others. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.
Nice move by Teve. Need him.
Is that a Jim Burr sighting?
Seton Hall needs to practice FTs! LOL
Quote from: Jay Bee on February 07, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
Chatroom open (http://www.muscoop.com/chat/flashchat.php)
Thought someone was gonna fix this chit for Ipad etc, hey?
Just got back from liquor store. I'm ready to watch some Marquette basketball!
Huge lane clogging by SH. Fischer still has not learned to kick it back out. Instead he puts it on the floor.
Awful decision to put JJJ on bench after 1st media timeout. In a nice rhythm/flow, and then bench.
They look good, got to keep up the pressure.
nice pass by derrick!!!
Where did this D come from? Nice start guys. Don't let off the gas.
Looks like Disco Hippie made it to the game after all. He must be cheering loudly for the good guys. How else can you explain our fast start?
Now we must sustain this. Hope Wojo does not keep subbing every 2 minutes.
Bullish.t call. Dumbazzes
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 11:24:07 AM
Awful decision to put JJJ on bench after 1st media timeout. In a nice rhythm/flow, and then bench.
come on Ners. Don't start that sh!t. We have 7 players today. WoJo has to keep them as fresh as he can. Notice he went right back in?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 07, 2015, 11:25:42 AM
Now we must sustain this. Hope Wojo does not keep subbing every 2 minutes.
dont tell Ners that Willie.
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 11:24:07 AM
Awful decision to put JJJ on bench after 1st media timeout. In a nice rhythm/flow, and then bench.
It was a perfect decision. He was playing great, but was starting to show a bit of fatigue. Get him a bit of rest and put him right back in where he can continue to play at the top of his game.
JJJ playing well, when he got tired, he made a few mistakes.
Quote from: DUNKS45 on February 07, 2015, 11:24:44 AM
They look good, got to keep up the pressure.
DUNKS IN THE HOUSE!!!
BRing us some luck big guy.
At an ice fishing contest. Gonna win me an Ice Castle today. Game is on Dvr for me. Text me on progress.
GO WARRIORS!!!!
Pirates. Arrrrhhh!
Missed layups, missed front ends. Defense has been solid in man. Can't keep giving up open 3's. We had a chance to blow up a nice lead. Been on 17 awhile.
Nice move by JjJ. Now if he has to come out for a rest Ners, don't go crazy.
Quote from: forgetful on February 07, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
It was a perfect decision. He was playing great, but was starting to show a bit of fatigue. Get him a bit of rest and put him right back in where he can continue to play at the top of his game.
JJJ playing well, when he got tired, he made a few mistakes.
LOL. Look at the sub patterns. 2-3 minute stints for JJJ, Duane and Sandy. Meanwhile Derrick stays in. probably for his FT prowess, as we are in the Bonus.
Seton Hall flops more than any other BE team...
I think Shaq shoots FTs better than derrick.
Love the energy from mu thus far.
Nice block Teve. Need him all day.
Duane playing elite D. Ball hawking!!
Uh oh. Must be 4 or 5 fouls between Teve and Luke. Soon we will have Juan or Derrick playing the 5.
Quote from: eg021 on February 07, 2015, 11:35:36 AM
I think Shaq shoots FTs better than derrick.
Love the energy from mu thus far.
Clang on FT's.
With Carlino, we beat this team. MU came ready to play, hope we don't run out of gas.
JjJ not even close on that 3 attempt and he was wide open.
Quote from: Blueprint on February 07, 2015, 11:41:19 AM
With Carlino, we beat this team. MU came ready to play, hope we don't run out of gas.
Not sure our pressure man d would be as successful with carlino in there.
Fischer 1 on 4. Kick it out. It isn't rocket science.
About time fish and Steve in together. I like this lineup.
Delgado freaks out a lot.
These refs are incompetent.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 07, 2015, 11:46:07 AM
Delgado freaks out a lot.
Hopefully he keeps dumping on the floor.
Duane making some big time dishes today!
Quote from: willie warrior on February 07, 2015, 11:46:20 AM
These refs are incompetent.
How dare you question the great Jim Burr!
Announcers blow. Is this the F team?
Quote from: warriorstrack on February 07, 2015, 11:51:34 AM
Announcers blow. Is this the F team?
We're getting no respect from the announcers.
I like JjJ's aggression. But he's worse than DeWil from the outside.
great effort today, BLOCKED!
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 07, 2015, 11:54:07 AM
I like JjJ's aggression. But he's worse than DeWil from the outside.
Sandy should get some more minutes today.
Quote from: eg021 on February 07, 2015, 11:53:36 AM
We're getting no respect from the announcers.
Seton hall apologists
That Derrick turnover hurt big time. Had possession, then lead to a three.
Like what I just saw from Wojo - On possession that ended with turnover on over/back violation. He said JJ: "If you are open, shoot it."
Even though JJ struggling from 3, and missed a few today, good of Wojo to reinforce if he has a look, he wants him to shoot it.
It seems like we are attacking more without Carlino instead of passing around the perimeter trying to get him an open look.
Quote from: eg021 on February 07, 2015, 11:58:20 AM
Sandy should get some more minutes today.
I think second half Sandy needs to play more because sh will adjust to stop penetration. So someone will need to hit from outside. I think they said JJJ is 18% for the year from 3?
MU 9 for 17, with two front end misses(Derrick) on free throws. SH just as bad though. Pitiful to watch on line.
Missed five baskets within two feet, including three layups, in first half already. Every game same thing.
JJJ (less his headband) played well, but missed two wide open threes.
SH playing terrible, just terrible. Gibbs with foul trouble, hope he doesn't go ballistic in second half.
Should be interesting second half.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on February 07, 2015, 12:00:25 PM
It seems like we are attacking more without Carlino instead of passing around the perimeter trying to get him an open look.
It is interesting to say the least that this is the best we've looked in awhile. Like him or not, JJJ forces a lot of action. He's a lot better going to the basket than Carlino, and forcing help in that regard - which has helped Luke. Obviously Carlino WAY better of 3 shooter. Defensively, we are a better team with JJJ playing in Carlino's place.
very good first half, if only juan and derrick could shoot free throws.
Quote from: Daniel on February 07, 2015, 12:02:37 PM
I think second half Sandy needs to play more because sh will adjust to stop penetration. So someone will need to hit from outside. I think they said JJJ is 18% for the year from 3?
Maybe Derrick needs to rest for some minutes. Guess fatigue does not impact him.
Quote from: DUNKS45 on February 07, 2015, 12:04:29 PM
very good first half, if only juan and derrick could shoot free throws.
Oh, they can shoot them. Only have trouble making them.
Derrick and Juan 2-8 FT
Rest of Team 7-9 FT
Our team FT shooting should improve next year just by graduation.
LOL.. you are correct Willie
9-17 FTs? My 5'4" 8th grade daughter has made 12-15 FTs in her last two games and I am quite sure I will be paying for her college education. Boggles my mind how bad FT shooting is these days for all teams.
Quote from: forgetful on February 07, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
It was a perfect decision. He was playing great, but was starting to show a bit of fatigue. Get him a bit of rest and put him right back in where he can continue to play at the top of his game.
JJJ playing well, when he got tired, he made a few mistakes.
Do you really believe a college basketball player gets tired 4:15 seconds into a game?
Could you recap for me the "mistakes" JJJ made in the first 4:15 of the game?
#mubb 30-22. MU: 45.7% eFG, 23.5% OR, 21% TO, 74% FTR. SH: 33.9% eFG, 37.5% OR, 30% TO, 32% FTR.
Offensively, not a good half for #mubb. But, delightful defensively with Seton Hall's 30% turnover rate and 10.5% 2FG%.
Quote from: Lazars Headband on February 07, 2015, 12:06:56 PM
Derrick and Juan 2-8 FT
Rest of Team 7-9 FT
Our team FT shooting should improve next year just by graduation.
Hmmmm....Addition by subtraction?
Anyone think Steve has looked a little bouncier/quick off and on his feet today?
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 12:10:26 PM
Do you really believe a college basketball player gets tired 4:15 seconds into a game?
Could you recap for me the "mistakes" JJJ made in the first 4:15 of the game?
C'mon Ners. He needed to rest. However that does not apply to Derrick.
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 12:04:06 PM
It is interesting to say the least that this is the best we've looked in awhile. Like him or not, JJJ forces a lot of action. He's a lot better going to the basket than Carlino, and forcing help in that regard - which has helped Luke. Obviously Carlino WAY better of 3 shooter. Defensively, we are a better team with JJJ playing in Carlino's place.
Agree on all counts. Thought JJJ was very goog in half#1
Quote from: nyg on February 07, 2015, 12:03:56 PM
Missed five baskets within two feet, including three layups, in first half already. Every game same thing.
JJJ (less his headband) played well, but missed two wide open 3s.
I still think if MU made half the bunnies they missed this year, this team is at WORST .500 in BE and still a chance at an at an at large. This certainly is not a good team, but the line is quite fine.
JJJ no headband is strange
Seen JJJ deliver more and better passes to Luke than perhaps any of our guards this year. Nice look by Luke to cutting Derrick (smart play by Derrick). Wonder if he gets assist for the creative pass off the backboard to Juan? ;D
Seniors holding the others back today.
And here we go with second half blues.
Derrick dribbling at top of key, 2 seconds left and a chuckup.
Every.....Single.....Game..... with no second half adjustments, Wojo saw something and called a TO.
Quote from: MARQ_13 on February 07, 2015, 12:19:44 PM
Seniors holding the others back today.
At least Juan is showing up on the boards, and we need all the help there we can get. But, he's been in a complete funk offensively for virtually all of conference play.
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 12:04:06 PM
It is interesting to say the least that this is the best we've looked in awhile. Like him or not, JJJ forces a lot of action. He's a lot better going to the basket than Carlino, and forcing help in that regard - which has helped Luke. Obviously Carlino WAY better of 3 shooter. Defensively, we are a better team with JJJ playing in Carlino's place.
Good point on our defense today. The main knock on jjj was his matador defense. We've been pretty good as a team defensively with him out there big minutes.
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 12:10:26 PM
Do you really believe a college basketball player gets tired 4:15 seconds into a game?
Could you recap for me the "mistakes" JJJ made in the first 4:15 of the game?
The obvious mistake was a forced drive early in the shot clock into 3 defenders that led to a TO. He also, started to gamble again on D, instead of playing position.
Yes, they do get tired after 4:15 if they are playing hard. They then need a very short break and a little water.
sweet spin move by Steve
Thanks to SH for calling that TO
Lose the pin Jim. That's enough TV time for a ref.
Ners, I'm really noticing in this thread that you really are a two trick pony. It's either Derrick bashing or talking about how great JjJ is. There's not much in between.
Big Fishy needs to not pick up the 4th foul...
Was Burr wearing an autism awareness pin or an Alzheimer's pin?
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 07, 2015, 12:29:32 PM
Ners, I'm really noticing in this thread that you really are a two trick pony. It's either Derrick bashing or talking about how great JjJ is. There's not much in between.
Big Fishy needs to not pick up the 4th foul...
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You are just noticing this...lucky for you, I guess.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 07, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
Was Burr wearing an autism awareness pin or an Alzheimer's pin?
he forgets which one!
Taylor looking as good as he has in awhile. I'd like for him to get some of Juan's minutes at the 4. He plays well along side Luke at his natural position.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 07, 2015, 12:31:11 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 07, 2015, 12:29:32 PM
Ners, I'm really noticing in this thread that you really are a two trick pony. It's either Derrick bashing or talking about how great JjJ is. There's not much in between.
Big Fishy needs to not pick up the 4th foul...
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You are just noticing this...lucky for you, I guess.
Just thinking it's even worse in this thread.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on February 07, 2015, 12:29:32 PM
Ners, I'm really noticing in this thread that you really are a two trick pony. It's either Derrick bashing or talking about how great JjJ is. There's not much in between.
Big Fishy needs to not pick up the 4th foul...
Are you kidding?? Please go quote a post from this whole thread where I've bashed Derrick??
If you can't handle a little humor on the "assist" comment please - stop being so hypersensitive. I even wrote it was a good cut by Derrick to get free for the layup...
And I don't say how "great" JJJ is - just saying what is true - he forces action..sometimes good, sometimes bad - but you need guys who are playmakers. If you are on the floor with Derrick and Juan - you want either of Duane, JJJ, or Luke launching your shots. Just the way it is.
At what minute mark will we start holding the ball and playing not to lose? I sure hope wojo addressed it and we stay aggressive early in the shot clock!
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 12:35:20 PM
Are you kidding?? Please go quote a post from this whole thread where I've bashed Derrick??
If you can't handle a little humor on the "assist" comment please - stop being so hypersensitive. I even wrote it was a good cut by Derrick to get free for the layup...
And I don't say how "great" JJJ is - just saying what is true - he forces action..sometimes good, sometimes bad - but you need guys who are playmakers. If you are on the floor with Derrick and Juan - you want either of Duane, JJJ, or Luke launching your shots. Just the way it is.
Also I would add that JJJ missing a drive is no different than Carlino missing a bomb. It is what he does well and we want him to do it.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 07, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
Was Burr wearing an autism awareness pin or an Alzheimer's pin?
It was the pin he received when he attended Remedial Refereeing Class.
Derrick has taken four shots as the clock expired so far, he is 0 for 6 in the game.
I just don't get this offense for MU. Just like last game, playing with lead and just passing around at top, then shoot one up with seconds left.
Here comes Gibbs......
I like JJJs offense today. He has good instincts on D but gambles way way too much.
we need to cleanup these turnovers, keep going to the hoop
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 07, 2015, 12:41:45 PM
I like JJJs offense today. He has good instincts on D but gambles way way too much.
Nothing ventured Nothing gained is how I look at it.
Quote from: nyg on February 07, 2015, 12:38:40 PM
Derrick has taken four shots as the clock expired so far, he is 0 for 6 in the game.
I just don't get this offense for MU. Just like last game, playing with lead and just passing around at top, then shoot one up with seconds left.
Here comes Gibbs......
It is extremely frustrating. Why not work the clock while going inside out, or passing and cutting, at least trying (with patience) to get open looks? Waiting til the last 10 seconds, especially w/o Carlino, can't possibly work.
Quote from: Texas Western on February 07, 2015, 12:44:08 PM
Nothing ventured Nothing gained is how I look at it.
I'd say that was Buzz's coaching philosophy the last half of last year...
So glad derrick doesn't sit. Hate to see us up more than 6 with his 0-6 shooting and 1-4 from the stripe.
JJJ. Nice.
Quote from: eg021 on February 07, 2015, 12:45:45 PM
So glad derrick doesn't sit. Hate to see us up more than 6 with his 0-6 shooting and 1-4 from the stripe.
Three of those shots were good looks, but blocked. A couple were last second heaves. There's more to basketball than scoring points.
Like Wojo high giving juan there. Funny.
Quote from: Bricky on February 07, 2015, 12:48:00 PM
Three of those shots were good looks, but blocked. A couple were last second heaves. There's more to basketball than scoring points.
You're right. There is more, you can penetrate for assists as a pg.
Pounding the ball at the top of the key isn't a value add.
Quote from: eg021 on February 07, 2015, 12:45:45 PM
So glad derrick doesn't sit. Hate to see us up more than 6 with his 0-6 shooting and 1-4 from the stripe.
Well we have 7 players and he also has 5 boards and 5 assists and a few of those shots were to beat the clock. Scoring is not the only way to impact a game and we all know his limitations offensively.
Who is covering Isiah Whitehead?? Dear lord he is having the worst game of his young career. Kudos to MU!!
Derrick and Delgado should have a free throw contest.
Does anyone know whether there is anything at stake in this game for SH today?
What a dumbass foul by Derrick. Quit playing not to lose!
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 07, 2015, 12:53:59 PM
Does anyone know whether there is anything at stake in this game for SH today?
Fighting to stay alive in their tournament hopes. Currently a bubble team. Losing to us at home can be detrimental.
Too conservative after breaking the pressure. Can't play not to lose.
MU calling off the dogs it looks like.
Please continue to attack the basket so we don't lose again
Why do we try to take the air out of the ball?
3-on-1 then 4-on-2 and we dont even try to score. Prevent offense again.
Hack-a- _____ is about to start.
Good lord, what an effort. Need some ball movement, need some off the ball movement. that'll do, steve
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 07, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
Please continue to attack the basket so we don't lose again
How have we not learned we can't take air out with 4 minutes left after all the losses??
Every possession is is critical now. Let's go! Way to go Steve
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on February 07, 2015, 12:55:53 PM
3-on-1 then 4-on-2 and we dont even try to score. Prevent offense again.
Finally!! Take advantage of what the defense gives up on the press!
Quote from: Bricky on February 07, 2015, 12:55:14 PM
Fighting to stay alive in their tournament hopes. Currently a bubble team. Losing to us at home can be detrimental.
Should have used teal. Commentary on the announcers repeating it every two minutes.
That's it take it to the hoop, nice!
Hope this is the game where Steve gets his mojo back.
#freeteve
Quote from: Blueprint on February 07, 2015, 12:55:49 PM
Why do we try to take the air out of the ball?
Wojolosophy.
Can't put 5 good FT shooters on the floor today.
Looks like JJJ needed more minutes after all.
Didn't think when I woke up today I'd be calling for us to feed Steve down low. Let's hope he can gain confidence. We'll still need him next year.
STj plays much better as a forward with Luke in the middle.
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on February 07, 2015, 12:56:49 PM
Finally!! Take advantage of what the defense gives up on the press!
But JJJ wasn't "playing within himself."
A perfect illustration of what this team has been lacking - a guy with some confidence, balls and ability to take advantage of clear cut numbers in transition, by forcing tempo and action.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on February 07, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
Well we have 7 players and he also has 5 boards and 5 assists and a few of those shots were to beat the clock. Scoring is not the only way to impact a game and we all know his limitations offensively.
yeah, he should be stud of the game, because he is Derrick.
Quote from: willie warrior on February 07, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
yeah, he should be stud of the game, because he is Derrick.
My point was is he that valuable to play a full 40. Is Duane that incapable of playing pg so he takes a breather. We only have 7 guys and he's the only one to not get tired?
Quote from: willie warrior on February 07, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
yeah, he should be stud of the game, because he is Derrick.
Yes, because that is exactly what I was saying.
Derrick sucks lol
How about this- JJJ and Derrick crapping the bed
Here we go again....
Derrick is brutal right now
Fischer should have been in a minute ago. Dumbazz
Juan and Derrick had been just brutal the last 2 minutes.
Gag. Puking this game up.
Wojo is really a terrible late game coach right now.
Now hack a Derrick starts,
I can't believe how DW falls apart at the end.
Derrick wilson is a disaster! he needs to write a book how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
Seton hall flopped twice on that last MU possession.
how can fisher not see steve there...
my favorite post in this thread is "this user currently ignored"
Wake me up when it's over
Wojo has Derrick in there to drain the game winning FT's
MU is a mental mess on 1-on-1's. Doesn't matter who takes it, they always miss the front end.
Quote from: Stone Cold on February 07, 2015, 01:03:49 PM
Wojo is really a terrible late game coach right now.
Spot on. Absolutely horrible at closing out games. Playing not to lose versus playing to win.
All any team needs to beat us is to play hard the last 4 minutes.
Well it's a good thing we have Derrick's leadership today. These last couple minutes he's really put the team on his back.
Somehow this will end up in OT. Story of our season.
Seton Hall lost this game more than Marquette won this game.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on February 07, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Well it's a good thing we have Derrick's leadership today. These last couple minutes he's really put the team on his back.
Joke post of the year!!!!!
Idiots not to foul if they don't. I'd lose faith in wojo
Foul or no foul? I foul
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on February 07, 2015, 01:07:03 PM
Spot on. Absolutely horrible at closing out games. Playing not to lose versus playing to win.
Buzz did it last year as well - riding his vets all the way down the stretch when it was pretty evident it wasn't going to work. Coaches sometimes get too conservative.
But, this year will/should be a good learning year for Wojo. We damn near screwed this one up too.
YEAH BABY!! WHEW....
I'll take it!
No foul there?? Thought Wojo told ref we were. Lot of cushion for Gibbs
Feels good to get a W again in conference!
Quote from: Stone Cold on February 07, 2015, 01:12:10 PM
I'll take it!
No foul there?? Thought Wojo told ref we were. Lot of cushion for Gibbs
One last dumb play by Derrick. He was abysmal down the stretch. There's really no debate about that.
Kicked Pomeroy's a$$.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on February 07, 2015, 01:07:55 PM
Well it's a good thing we have Derrick's leadership today. These last couple minutes he's really put the team on his back.
Yeah, his two costly TO's and offensive foul down the stretch really demonstrated that. keep smoking those mushrooms.
I need a cigarette and I don't smoke.
Spare us the"they lost it more than we won it" crap. We needed that. 7 players on the road. I don't give a f*ck. that's a nice win.
Huge confidence building FTs for Duane. Young man stepped up like a boss
I like Wojo, but he is not good coaching the last five minutes of games. We won despite his poor coaching at the end. Opponents turn up the heat when MU plays "not to lose ball."
Hey! We handed someone a "bad" loss on their resume!
again, 35 minutes of good play, 5 minutes of brainless play. Do the coaches look at this and figure out we are doing something wrong at the end of games? Yes the players mess up, but it is on the coaches. disappointed in the coaching. If something does not work, dont' keep trying it!
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 01:11:17 PM
Buzz did it last year as well - riding his vets all the way down the stretch when it was pretty evident it wasn't going to work. Coaches sometimes get too conservative.
But, this year will/should be a good learning year for Wojo. We damn near screwed this one up too.
Crean used to take the air out opf the ball very early like Wojo does. I don't remember Buzz doing it so much.
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 12:13:43 PM
Anyone think Steve has looked a little bouncier/quick off and on his feet today?
Guess nobody noticed this or felt it to be the case at halftime? Seemed evident Steve had a different gear today..
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on February 07, 2015, 01:18:35 PM
I like Wojo, but he is not good coaching the last five minutes of games. We won despite his poor coaching at the end. Opponents turn up the heat when MU plays "not to lose ball."
I don't totally disagree, but let's be honest: We're just not that good. A turnover or two less and a made free throw or two and any decisions look better.
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 01:22:58 PM
Guess nobody noticed this or felt it to be the case at halftime? Seemed evident Steve had a different gear today..
I agree totally. He and JJJ looked great today. Steve looked stronger, more explosive and all around a different player.
Quote from: MARQ_13 on February 07, 2015, 01:10:24 PM
Idiots not to foul if they don't. I'd lose faith in wojo
They got a pretty darn good look there to tie the game, and appeared as if we had a chance to foul.
Sorry if I missed it, no Homer?
Quote from: MARQ_13 on February 07, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
One last dumb play by Derrick. He was abysmal down the stretch. There's really no debate about that.
He did struggle down the stretch. But a big key with him is if you asked him, he would say he can't make those mistakes down the stretch and no exactly what he did wrong.
Serious question - what did we do to "play not to lose" down the stretch? That's the most common go-to complaint anytime someone loses or wins a close game.
I wanna know, what could MU done differently given their personnel?
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on February 07, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
Serious question - what did we do to "play not to lose" down the stretch? That's the most common go-to complaint anytime someone loses or wins a close game.
I wanna know, what could MU done differently given their personnel?
Twice at the end we broke the press and had 3 on 1 and 4 on 2 and chose to pull it out and run time 5 on 5 rather than attacking the goal. That is playing not to lose rather than playing to win.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on February 07, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
Serious question - what did we do to "play not to lose" down the stretch? That's the most common go-to complaint anytime someone loses or wins a close game.
I wanna know, what could MU done differently given their personnel?
There were about 4 possessions under the 5 minute mark where we broke their press and had 3-1 and 3-2 opportunities and Derrick didn't attack them. JJJ and Duane did. But we gave away about 4 good scoring opportunities in order to run clock and get terrible looks with a much higher degree of difficulty than what we could have had in the 3 on 1 and 3 on 2 looks.
Quote from: Niv Berkowitz on February 07, 2015, 01:29:24 PM
Serious question - what did we do to "play not to lose" down the stretch? That's the most common go-to complaint anytime someone loses or wins a close game.
I wanna know, what could MU done differently given their personnel?
We had a 3 on 1 and a 4 on 2 after breaking the press on two separate occasions with over 4 minutes left in the game and we pull the ball back. This with a team that struggles to score and doesn't have their best scorer for the game. Played not to lose down the stretch. Then to top it off we create a turnover and don't even get a shot off in one situation and I think we had to force up a bad shot with another. Played not to lose.
Quote from: CTWarrior on February 07, 2015, 01:32:43 PM
Twice at the end we broke the press and had 3 on 1 and 4 on 2 and chose to pull it out and run time 5 on 5 rather than attacking the goal. That is playing not to lose rather than playing to win.
And then Wojo called timeout and told them they still need to attack when they beat the press. Next possession, JJJ broke the press, attacked as Wojo told them to and scored.
A couple TOs hurt us the most, TOs are usually 50/50 good defense and poor choices.
Quote from: NersEllenson on February 07, 2015, 01:26:20 PM
They got a pretty darn good look there to tie the game, and appeared as if we had a chance to foul.
Agreed. MU should have fouled and had the chance to. Also, credit to SH for its last possession. Helluva pass from OB and then the quick TO, followed by the open look 3.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 07, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
Agreed. MU should have fouled and had the chance to.
According to this Wojo did want to foul.
http://marquette.scout.com/story/1511296-signature-win-in-wojo-era-mu-57-shall-54?s=415 (http://marquette.scout.com/story/1511296-signature-win-in-wojo-era-mu-57-shall-54?s=415)
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 07, 2015, 02:39:53 PM
According to this Wojo did want to foul.
http://marquette.scout.com/story/1511296-signature-win-in-wojo-era-mu-57-shall-54?s=415 (http://marquette.scout.com/story/1511296-signature-win-in-wojo-era-mu-57-shall-54?s=415)
They did want to foul. Right before the in-bounds, the TV had a shot of Wojo talking to a ref. Lip reading, he said to the ref "We are going to foul, we are going to foul."
MU just couldn't get on the Pirate player quick enough.
Good to hear. At least we have a coach who gets this important process at the end of the game....unlike the previous coach. I do think we had time to foul Gibbs on the inbound pass and could have avoided the unnecessary heart skip.
Teve!!!!
Just got done watching the game on the DVR