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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: GooooMarquette on February 05, 2015, 01:03:16 PM
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A reputable journalist ought to be held accountable (i.e., fired) for making up a story, aina?
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A reputable journalist ought to be held accountable for making up a story, aina?
The whole industry would be out of work.....
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Williams is a stooge. I would like to see Lester Holt replace him.
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I think I'd remember if I was shot down. ::)
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"There I wasn't!!!"
What a piece of sh1t.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/the-awkward-moment-nbc-host-brian-williams-admits-he-made-up-the-story-about-being-in-a-helicopter-shot-in-the-iraq-war-10025475.html
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DOOSH+bag
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Wishful, self-aggrandizing reporting by that flack for the left - Williams. Fire 'em.
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Didn't Williams initially invent this story for one of his appearances on Letterman? He's not a journalist and never was. He's a celebrity with a nice smile who looks good in a suit and can read a teleprompter. Left but not scary left, at all times affable. Reminiscent of the empty headed anchor in Broadcast News. Fundamentally unserious.
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Didn't Williams initially invent this story for one of his appearances on Letterman? He's not a journalist and never was. He's a celebrity with a nice smile who looks good in a suit and can read a teleprompter. Left but not scary left, at all times affable. Reminiscent of the empty headed anchor in Broadcast News. Fundamentally unserious.
Williams has told the story for years.
From 2003:
http://www.mrctv.org/videos/video-brian-williams-2003-report-helicopter-incident
Letterman 2013:
http://youtu.be/xS3NAwZ4hGk?t=3m
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Didn't Williams initially invent this story for one of his appearances on Letterman? He's not a journalist and never was. He's a celebrity with a nice smile who looks good in a suit and can read a teleprompter. Left but not scary left, at all times affable. Reminiscent of the empty headed anchor in Broadcast News. Fundamentally unserious.
Lenny - A cardinal rule is one never, ever steals the laurels that rightfully belong to another. Honor is based on character and integrity then paid for in blood. Brian Williams might be a congenial man but at the heart of it is nothing more than a craven coward. He should keep his smarmy schtick in Greenwich cocktail parties beyond the ears of good men who know the truth.
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Wishful, self-aggrandizing reporting by that flack for the left - Williams. Fire 'em.
Yup, because no one on the right would ever lie about anything, right? All 100% honest, straight shooters. ::)
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Lenny - A cardinal rule is one never, ever steals the laurels that rightfully belong to another. Honor is based on character and integrity then paid for in blood. Brian Williams might be a congenial man but at the heart of it is nothing more than a craven coward. He should keep his smarmy schtick in Greenwich cocktail parties beyond the ears of good men who know the truth.
Agree on all counts. People who invent quasi-heroic in the face of enemy fire biographies (Williams, Hillary, etc.) are despicable. One does not "misremember" coming under enemy fire. People like this lose all credibility - he's gotta go.
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Yup, because no one on the right would ever lie about anything, right? All 100% honest, straight shooters. ::)
Groin
His politics are irrelevant. Claiming credit for a "There I was" story is reprehensible. The fact he is a journalist makes it egregious.
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As others have said, politics are irrelevant here. The key is his fundamental lack of character and honesty.
Journalists on both ends of the political spectrum cherry-pick and spin facts to fulfill their own agendas. Williams carried that a quantum leap further by repeatedly telling a lie. He didn't simply take a fact and spin it his way - he made one up.
Character revealed.
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Sounds like the REAL Faux News, aina?
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What's really telling is that the Army aviators have been calling out Williams on this story for years. And Williams chose to ignore their queries. Only when it began to go viral did Williams and NBC decide to 'set the record straight.'
F ucking loser.
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I'm sure they'll just put him on an apology tour and ultimately push it under the rug. No excuse for that. The job of a reporter is not to make themselves the story. Even worse when they are making up themselves being the story.
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Squirmy, just like his cousin Buzz
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Groin
His politics are irrelevant. Claiming credit for a "There I was" story is reprehensible. The fact he is a journalist makes it egregious.
You might want to re-read the post I was reacting to. Here ya go:
"Wishful, self-aggrandizing reporting by that flack for the left - Williams. Fire 'em."
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As others have said, politics are irrelevant here. The key is his fundamental lack of character and honesty.
Journalists on both ends of the political spectrum cherry-pick and spin facts to fulfill their own agendas. Williams carried that a quantum leap further by repeatedly telling a lie. He didn't simply take a fact and spin it his way - he made one up.
Character revealed.
Exactly. We're not talking about a little story slanting here. I'm sure guys (like warthog-driver) who really have had rounds whiz by their heads take this very personally. 'There's men dyin' up that road.' By the way keefe, thanks again.
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Groin
His politics are irrelevant. Claiming credit for a "There I was" story is reprehensible. The fact he is a journalist makes it egregious.
Correct, Keefe.
Although I think Groin was just responding to a poster's comment.
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Wishful, self-aggrandizing reporting by that flack for the left - Williams. Fire 'em.
So a liar on the left should be fired... but a criminal oxy-junkie on the right is OK with you.
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I guess he's still going on the tube tonight-wonder if he's got a tummy ache err anything...nbc and the man of the hourhave decided to ride out the storm. Nasty!! I wonder how long a guy of some other persuasion would last under the same scenario...and he/she is gone, next. i can see code pink lining up outside nbc headquarters as we speak ;D
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Not good.
I actually liked his broadcasts, but obviously his credibility is shot.
Can't really use him on nightly news anymore, right? Maybe they could put him on dateline or a news magazine show?
Or, just f*cking fire him.
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He's got a really hot daughter. I don't know how to post pics, but check her out.
Oh, and he's a sack of sh!t for lying about this. What a scumbag
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So a liar on the left should be fired... but a criminal oxy-junkie on the right is OK with you.
Ad hominem attacks underscore the vacuity of your argument, as usual
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Yup, because no one on the right would ever lie about anything, right? All 100% honest, straight shooters. ::)
If someone on the right had told this lie it would not have been covered up for 10 years. It was allowed to survive because it's Brian Williams, it's Brian Williams! Let's see if SNL does a skit on it this week.
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I think I'd remember if I was shot down. ::)
Yeah, no kidding....but it's contagious....remember this one....
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/02/05/sharyl-attkisson-brian-williams-not-alone-hillary-clinton-lied-about-being-shot-at-in-bosnia/
Thankfully some of our finest called BS
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Ain't it precious when those who don't seem to support our military so much, but love to try to use it to their advantage when politically expedient :o
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Yeah but, Allison is white hot, aina?
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Yeah but, Allison is white hot, aina?
So who's gonna plug her next TV musical on Nightly?
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Yeah but, Allison is white hot, aina?
in an a$$-munching way she is!
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He's a fake baker like Crean. Can't trust those guys.
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Ain't it precious when those who don't seem to support our military so much, but love to try to use it to their advantage when politically expedient :o
I've never thought Williams didn't "seem to support our military so much."
However this was really dumb.
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I wonder if Williams will go to his old stand by, Bill Maher to start his public redemption. Two peas in a pod.
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I've watched BW's NBC nightly news for years. I saw the original story and did think it was odd I'd never recalled him being in a helicopter that was shot down. Never would have known the story was false until the news came out .. but I read his apology and thought it was as best he could do. And I'm fine with that.
TL;DR: Most people who like BW are still gonna like him. Military folk and those who didn't like him in the first place, not so much. He'll survive.
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(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/06-p1_lcf.jpg?w=260)
His Katrina coverage is now in question.
http://pagesix.com/2015/02/06/brian-williams-hurricane-katrina-experience-in-question-report/?_ga=1.156239928.2020282084.1418089534 (http://pagesix.com/2015/02/06/brian-williams-hurricane-katrina-experience-in-question-report/?_ga=1.156239928.2020282084.1418089534)
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Ad hominem attacks underscore the vacuity of your argument, as usual
Is he really comparing a news journalist that is the face of a news organization to a talk show, entertainment host? Did he really just do that? Amazing....simply....amazing.
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Tom Brokaw wants him fired.
http://pagesix.com/2015/02/05/tom-brokaw-wants-brian-williams-fired/
Now Williams stories about Katrina are under assault....
http://www.theneworleansadvocate.com/news/11526453-148/nbc-news-anchor-brian-williams
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Dude lost all credibility. Not a good deal bein' in news reportin' and such. Be that as it may, still wanna know if BeeJay would hit Allison?
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The guys needs to be canned. Lost all credibility in my eyes. Have a little trust in media to begin with and this just adds to my general lack of trust. Think he is a clever guy and maybe ESPN is a better fit for him.
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The guys needs to be canned. Lost all credibility in my eyes. Have a little trust in media to begin with and this just adds to my general lack of trust. Think he is a clever guy and maybe ESPN is a better fit for him.
He is definitely not a sports guy beyond casual fan. Also, he is not that clever. He is solely responsible for he (terribly written) copy.
NBC is still trying to figure out what to do with Nancy Snyderman after her Ebola debacle. She has basically been swept under a rug (while continuing to be paid).
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"I watched a dead body float down a dry street."
Oops.
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"I watched a dead body float down a dry street."
Oops.
"I saw my career face down in a gutter."
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Dan Rather got the heave ho for less.
Over the years I've actually liked Williams the best of the establishment anchors.
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Rabble rabble rabble.
The man who reads stuff on the TEEE VEEE got caught in a lie.
If we held that standard to every mouthbreather that reads a teleprompter for a living (both left and right), the entire industry would be out of work.
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If someone on the right had told this lie it would not have been covered up for 10 years. It was allowed to survive because it's Brian Williams, it's Brian Williams! Let's see if SNL does a skit on it this week.
I would LOVE to see that, but B-dub seems to be good friends with Tina Fey and everyone in the SNL camp (he had many cameos on 30 Rock, for instance), so I doubt SNL calls him out on it.
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Tom Brokaw wants him fired.
http://pagesix.com/2015/02/05/tom-brokaw-wants-brian-williams-fired/
Interesting. The story says that Brokaw and NBC have known for years that Williams's account of the incident was BS and told him to stop repeating it. Now that Williams has been caught Brokaw is all over him - but he evidently didn't want to be the whistleblower. Convenient outrage on Tom's part, aina?
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Rabble rabble rabble.
The man who reads stuff on the TEEE VEEE got caught in a lie.
If we held that standard to every mouthbreather that reads a teleprompter for a living (both left and right), the entire industry would be out of work.
He isn't just reading a story someone else wrote - he wrote the story.
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He isn't just reading a story someone else wrote - he wrote the story.
Exactly. As mentioned, he is solely in charge of his copy. This is not an opinionated talk format, he is supposed to broadcast factual information as news.
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Interesting. The story says that Brokaw and NBC have known for years that Williams's account of the incident was BS and told him to stop repeating it. Now that Williams has been caught Brokaw is all over him - but he evidently didn't want to be the whistleblower. Convenient outrage on Tom's part, aina?
That might be the case, but it's hard to tell from the story exactly how Brokaw knew. Did he have clear proof or documentation of the lie, or did someone he trusts simply tell him Williams was lying? IMHO, the answer would determine whether he should have come out and blown the whistle, or simply told Williams to do the right thing.
FWIW, I was never a big Brokaw fan, so I am not defending him - just pointing out something that isn't clear.....
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Not much for Brokaw either, but this always made me laugh.
https://screen.yahoo.com/tom-brokaw-pre-tapes-000000991.html
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Today's cover of the Post
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/07-p1-lcf.jpg?w=780)
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Dan Rather got the heave ho for less.
Over the years I've actually liked Williams the best of the establishment anchors.
Disagree....Rather got exactly what he deserved
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Rabble rabble rabble.
The man who reads stuff on the TEEE VEEE got caught in a lie.
If we held that standard to every mouthbreather that reads a teleprompter for a living (both left and right), the entire industry would be out of work.
And that's the problem......
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I have no use for NBC Nightly News, but what a turd.
His daughter is flat out box though. I'd like a press conference where he's admitting to being a jagoff and his daughter stands next to him, crying, in a bikini.
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I have no use for NBC Nightly News, but what a turd.
His daughter is flat out box though. I'd like a press conference where he's admitting to being a jagoff and his daughter stands next to him, crying, in a bikini.
Weeeiirrrrddd
Any who, he's taking a leave of absence. In the meantime my man, Lester, is taking over. Katie Couric wants in on the action, but she is despicable and should go away forever.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/02/07/brian-williams-takes-break-from-nbc-nightly-news/23045747/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/02/07/brian-williams-takes-break-from-nbc-nightly-news/23045747/)
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This is why I disagree when people say he is merely a face and reads the news. He is the managing editor and decides what goes on the news. That's an important piece. What is reported vs what is not is what bothers many people. Too many things are buried for political reasons or ideological biases so as not to harm their peeps. It's a powerful spot.
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Weeeiirrrrddd
Any who, he's taking a leave of absence. In the meantime my man, Lester, is taking over. Katie Couric wants in on the action, but she is despicable and should go away forever.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/02/07/brian-williams-takes-break-from-nbc-nightly-news/23045747/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/02/07/brian-williams-takes-break-from-nbc-nightly-news/23045747/)
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I've never thought Williams didn't "seem to support our military so much."
However this was really dumb.
don't forget hillary's bid for a "purple heart"-she must have been trying to compete with johnny "top gun" kerry
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Dan Rather got the heave ho for less.
Over the years I've actually liked Williams the best of the establishment anchors.
seriously?' rather"s were an attempt to throw a presidential election. i have no idea why williams was lying...maybe so he'd get some when he got home?
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hey, i know what brian can do for his penance...he can join syracuse and boeheim and sit out the ncaa tournament ;D
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3rd day in a row that the Post is piling on.
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/08-p1.jpg?w=780)
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I've never thought Williams didn't "seem to support our military so much."
However this was really dumb.
A bad day for Williams is his deli not having the right Beluga or his Dom being slightly under chilled.
I have interacted with the press in the Sandbox on an informal basis and you can see how they live vicariously through what is going on outside the wire. As JTACs we never had embedded journalists but conventional units did and I know many combat correspondents felt the sting of battle while taking fire along with the unit they were covering.
The difference, I think, is that most embedded correspondents were print media and were there to gain insight over an extended period of time. Electronic media are there more for sound bites with gripping footage in the background. There are many outstanding journalists embedded in units engaged in ops who share the risks and hazards for the sake of reporting what is happening - their presence is crucial to the freedoms we enjoy in the US, UK, France, Italy, Denmark, etc...
Guys like Williams have outsized egos and when they see normal everyday American, British, Canadian, and Australian men and women rising to the challenge in extraordinary ways on a routine basis it must both humble him and stick in his craw. I am not a shrink but how else can you explain his bizarre "confabulation?"
In any event, I hope we have seen the last of Williams. You never, ever steal the laurels that rightfully belong to another. That is a foundational plank of the Warrior Ethos - a brotherhood Williams admires but really does not understand as demonstrated through his "confabulation." While he says he respects the men and women who defend this nation he does nothing but cheapen their sacrifice by claiming participation in something that would likely stain his silk underwear.
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These never get old
https://www.youtube.com/v/2Fu6uBHl0hE
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NBC has decided to suspend BW as Managing Editor and Anchor of NBC Nightly News for six months. The suspension will be without pay and is effective immediately.
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NBC has decided to suspend BW as Managing Editor and Anchor of NBC Nightly News for six months. The suspension will be without pay and is effective immediately.
So they're thinking he'll grow some honesty and integrity in six months?
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So they're thinking he'll grow some honesty and integrity in six months?
Jon Stewart announced retirement from Comedy Central tonight... Hmmmm...
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Jon Stewart announced retirement from Comedy Central tonight... Hmmmm...
Where will millenials get their slanted "news" from moving forward?
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Fox?
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Fox?
Nah, that's for older, successful people....mostly retired, mostly white dudes. ;)
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Nah, that's for older, successful people....mostly retired, mostly white dudes. ;)
ZINGGGGGGG ++++ ;D
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I am simply amazed at the left's obsession with Fox News. I don't know what I'm missing here. I'm right of center, and I haven't watched five minutes of it since before college, and neither have any of my right of center friends. Most of us don't even have cable.
But all I see in any comment section on the internet about the media is Fox News this, Fox News that. On and on and on.
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I wonder what percent of college graduated adults 22-35 could even identify Brian Williams. I couldn't tell you which network he was on before this.
To my knowledge on ratings, no one under 60 is watching any of this stuff.
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I wonder what percent of college graduated adults 22-35 could even identify Brian Williams. I couldn't tell you which network he was on before this.
To my knowledge on ratings, no one under 60 is watching any of this stuff.
Instead they are watching folks like Stewart, who is very funny, but too many of them think that is actual news.
Last week a survey came out on millenials that asked them to name just one of the US Senators in their state....just ONE.
23% of millenials were able to name one. Appalling.
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I am simply amazed at the left's obsession with Fox News. I don't know what I'm missing here. I'm right of center, and I haven't watched five minutes of it since before college, and neither have any of my right of center friends. Most of us don't even have cable.
But all I see in any comment section on the internet about the media is Fox News this, Fox News that. On and on and on.
Because that is the ONE network that doesn't conform to their views. Obama's slip of the tongue (or was it) the other day on this topic was priceless. "the station" vs stations. I agree with his perception entirely....confirmation bias. His counting here is dead on as well.
"Our media is all segmented now so that instead of just watching three stations, we got 600. And everything is market-segmented, and you got the conservative station and the liberal stations. So everybody is only listening to what they already agree with."
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Because that is the ONE network that doesn't conform to their views. Obama's slip of the tongue (or was it) the other day on this topic was priceless. "the station" vs stations. I agree with his perception entirely....confirmation bias. His counting here is dead on as well.
"Our media is all segmented now so that instead of just watching three stations, we got 600. And everything is market-segmented, and you got the conservative station and the liberal stations. So everybody is only listening to what they already agree with."
Not really. The reason that the left has an obsession about FOX news is that it includes the word news. Now, if they changed it to what it was then we probably wouldn't hear much from the left about the FOX Entertainment Politics channel.
I'm obviously aware that there are left leaning channels as well, and they should also not be called 'news'.
Kids watch "The Daily Show" because it fits what they like. Its snarky, and doesn't pretend to be news.
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Instead they are watching folks like Stewart, who is very funny, but too many of them think that is actual news.
Last week a survey came out on millenials that asked them to name just one of the US Senators in their state....just ONE.
23% of millenials were able to name one. Appalling.
I'm surprised it's over 10%. It's better for big government if people don't know what's going on.