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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Henry Sugar on January 23, 2015, 02:17:13 PM

Title: Ranking the top performances of the year (so far)
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 23, 2015, 02:17:13 PM
As I've covered several times, I track Net Points for each player but don't put them up on CS or twitter. It's decent message board fodder, however. Net Points looks at a player's contributions to the game. Are they generally "net-positive" or "net-negative" with their on-court impact?

There are flaws with the metric, but I stick with it because I like how net points can tell a story through the season and for comparison purposes.

Below is a distribution of all the net points games per player going back several seasons. It's almost 1000 data points. As is to be expected, the most common value is "0". In other words, a player was on the court and they were exactly equal to the final contribution. 2/3 of all the values fall between -2 and +2 net points.

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee41/roblowe14/9c6bedd3-bacd-406f-ad8f-de06ced91ff0.png) (http://s228.photobucket.com/user/roblowe14/media/9c6bedd3-bacd-406f-ad8f-de06ced91ff0.png.html)

For this post, however, I'm going to concentrate on players in the blue circle. Those are players with a net-points contribution of 5 or higher, which falls into the top 10% of all performances over the past few seasons.

#1 - Matt Carlino - 14.8 net points. (GT - Orlando Classic) #1 all time. Top 0.1%
#2 - Duane Wilson - 10 net points. (Tennessee) Top 1.4%
#3 - Luke Fischer - 8.4 net points. (Alabama A&M). Top 3%
#4 - Juan Anderson - 7.3 net points. (Alabama A&M). Top 5%
#5 - JJJ - 7.1 net points. (Tenn-Martin) Top 5%
#6 - JJJ - 6.7 net points. (North Dakota) Top 7%
#7 - Luke Fischer - 6.4 net points. (Morgan State). Top 7%
#8 - Matt Carlino - 6.1 net points. (Creighton) Top 7%
#9 - Derrick Wilson - 6.0 (North Dakota). Top 10%
#10 - Matt Carlino - 5.6 net points. (@St. John's) Top 10%
#11 - Duane Wilson - 5.4 net points. (ASU) Top 10%
#12 - Matt Carlino - 5.4 net points. (@Xavier) Top 10%
#13 - Duane Wilson - 5.2 net points. (NJIT) Top 10%

Commentary
Title: Re: Ranking the top performances of the year (so far)
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 23, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
The first thing I notice is that if you take out the cupcake games you are left with:

1. Carlino v. GT
2. Duane v. TENN
8. Carlino v. CREI
10. Carlino @ SJU
11. Duane v. ASU
12. Carlino @ XAV

It definitely seems like Carlino and Duane are the two who have the ability to step up against quality competition.

I'm surprised that Luke v. ASU isn't on here as well. Seemed like he almost singlehandedly destroyed them.

Nice work HS
Title: Re: Ranking the top performances of the year (so far)
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 23, 2015, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 23, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
The first thing I notice is that if you take out the cupcake games you are left with:

1. Carlino v. GT
2. Duane v. TENN
8. Carlino v. CREI
10. Carlino @ SJU
11. Duane v. ASU
12. Carlino @ XAV

It definitely seems like Carlino and Duane are the two who have the ability to step up against quality competition.

I'm surprised that Luke v. ASU isn't on here as well. Seemed like he almost singlehandedly destroyed them.

Nice work HS

MU hasn't exactly done well against quality competition. If the team loses by 3-4 points, it's hard for a player to be net-positive, and certainly hard to fall into the top 10% bucket. In losing games, the metric assigns a bunch of negative points to players. That's another reason I don't publish a lot of this.

Fischer was +3.1 vs ASU (a game where MU won by 7), which is still a top 20% performance.
Title: Re: Ranking the top performances of the year (so far)
Post by: brewcity77 on January 23, 2015, 02:35:49 PM
Out of curiosity, could you post the top-20 (or 50, or 100) of all time? Would be interesting to both see and reminisce about some of the great performances over the past few years.
Title: Re: Ranking the top performances of the year (so far)
Post by: RJax55 on January 23, 2015, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 23, 2015, 02:35:49 PM
Out of curiosity, could you post the top-20 (or 50, or 100) of all time? Would be interesting to both see and reminisce about some of the great performances over the past few years.

Agree. That would be cool to see.
Title: Re: Ranking the top performances of the year (so far)
Post by: Henry Sugar on January 23, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 23, 2015, 02:35:49 PM
Out of curiosity, could you post the top-20 (or 50, or 100) of all time? Would be interesting to both see and reminisce about some of the great performances over the past few years.

Two things
#1 - I only really have data going back to 2011-2012
#2 - I can do it, but it'll take a while. The data isn't quite user friendly for sorting. At a high level, it's about what you'd expect. Lots of Gardner and Crowder, then Jamil/Vander/DJO, then misc (Todd Mayo)
Title: Re: Ranking the top performances of the year (so far)
Post by: brewcity77 on January 23, 2015, 06:28:33 PM
Wasn't sure how far you had tracked. Maybe something worth starting to collate and pulling back out in 2-3 years once there's a larger sample size.
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