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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: MisterJaylenBrownMU on January 05, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
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http://deadspin.com/jimmy-butler-is-a-bad-bad-man-1677665603 (http://deadspin.com/jimmy-butler-is-a-bad-bad-man-1677665603)
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That stuff was darn impressive!
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Rapidly rising up on my list of all time great Warriors.
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Arguably one of the best defenders at his position in the NBA as well...makes it even more impressive.
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Is there a better 2 way player in the league?
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Is there a better 2 way player in the league?
Yes. That guy who plays for the cavaliers to start with.
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Yes. That guy who plays for the cavaliers to start with.
Who else?
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Jimmy and Mirotic were picks 23 and 30 in 2011. All-Star/most improved and rookie of the year in 2014-15?
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Jimmy and Mirotic were picks 23 and 30 in 2011. All-Star/most improved and rookie of the year in 2014-15?
Wasn't Mirotic the one picked 23rd?
If so, that just makes Jimmy's current performance that much more impressive.
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They still don't understand it's JFB!
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Yes. That guy who plays for the cavaliers to start with.
Maybe due to his offense still being so lethal but LeBrons defense is dropping pretty quickly
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Is it safe to say hes gonna get his contract at about 13-15 Mil a year...
Jimmy turning down Chicagos offer is working in his favor, If The Bulls don't pay someone will....
Ala The Knicks who just dumped 23 Million in salary last night and Amare and his 24 Million come off the books... Their already in "Tank Mode" and are said to be going after Marc Gasol, Wes and could it be JFB too??
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I would be very surprised if Jimmy did not remain a Bull.
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The best part about that block/spike/stuff of Harden is the way Jimmy just walks away with no emotion
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don't follow the nba much...the bucks have any chance of signing jimmy?
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Wasn't Mirotic the one picked 23rd?
If so, that just makes Jimmy's current performance that much more impressive.
Yes, Jimmy was the 30th pick of the 1st round.
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don't follow the nba much...the bucks have any chance of signing jimmy?
He will be a restricted free agent, so the Bulls can match whatever the Bucks offer. The Bulls can offer him more money than any other club. So while it is possible, it isn't likely.
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Jimmy will get a max deal somewhere. No doubt. 99% chance he remains a Bull, too.
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Is it safe to say hes gonna get his contract at about 13-15 Mil a year...
Jimmy turning down Chicagos offer is working in his favor, If The Bulls don't pay someone will....
Ala The Knicks who just dumped 23 Million in salary last night and Amare and his 24 Million come off the books... Their already in "Tank Mode" and are said to be going after Marc Gasol, Wes and could it be JFB too??
I'm not sure what the exact max salary would be as it applies to Jimmy's situation, but there is a lot of talk he could be a max player at the end of the year if he keeps this going. Even if not, he's positioned himself to likely make north of $15 million/season. Probably will make himself an extra $20-$30 million over the course of his next deal by not accepting what was a pretty good offer by the Bulls before the deadline on him becoming a restricted free agent. Good for him. He deserves it.
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Wasn't Mirotic the one picked 23rd?
If so, that just makes Jimmy's current performance that much more impressive.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-butler-mirotic-bulls-spt-0104-20150103-story.html
From the Sunday Tribune ....
Bulls luck in landing two core pieces in 2011 draft residue of design
By K.C. Johnson
Chicago Tribune
Despite owning just late first-round picks, Bulls landed Jimmy Butler and Nikola Mirotic in same 2011 draft. Here's the back story on how the Bulls acquired two core pieces in the same NBA draft
In July 2010, the Bulls were preparing to sign Carlos Boozer as a free agent when the Jazz, Boozer's previous team, asked for a favor.
Allow the Jazz to sign-and-trade Boozer, creating a $13 million trade exception they eventually used to acquire Al Jefferson. The Bulls agreed, asking for a second-round pick as thanks.
Fast forward seven months. Cutting bait on the James Johnson experiment, the Bulls traded their 2009 first-round pick to the Raptors for a 2011 first-round pick.
There are unforeseen ripple effects for almost all professional sports transactions. Nobody ever will know if the Johnson who, after humbling Development League assignments, has become a valuable Raptors' reserve would have panned out for the Bulls. Luol Deng's steady and near-constant presence would seem to say no.
And the Bulls wouldn't have acquired Boozer if they had landed their top target in 2010 free agency — LeBron James.
This much is known for certain: Nikola Mirotic isn't a Bull without the Boozer sign-and-trade boon and the Johnson deal. And the Bulls' 2011 draft is shaping up to be one of the most influential in franchise history.
Think about it: After an NBA-best 62-20 mark and trip to the Eastern Conference finals, most teams would be happy to add a fringe rotational player.
Instead, the Bulls parlayed the second-round pick acquired from the Jazz in the Boozer sign-and-trade, who turned out to be Malcolm Lee; the Raptors' first-round pick from the Johnson trade, which turned out to be Norris Cole at No. 28; and cash to move to No. 23 and acquire Mirotic's draft rights from the Timberwolves.
With their own 30th pick resulting from the league-best record, they drafted Jimmy Butler.
That's quite a double play. One is a starting shooting guard who is the runaway leader for this season's Most Improved Player and even is generating some mild most valuable player buzz. The other is a soon-to-be 24-year-old rookie seasoned from high-level overseas play whose skill level is apparent nearly every time he plays.
"It was like winning a game on a 30-footer at the buzzer," general manager Gar Forman said when asked to recall the feeling in the draft room at the Berto Center that night. "It really was that type of emotion."
Since 2010, here are the other 23rd and 30th picks in the NBA draft: Trevor Booker and Lazar Hayward in 2010; John Jenkins and Festus Ezeli in 2012; Solomon Hill and Nemanja Nedovic in 2013 and Rodney Hood and Kyle Anderson in 2014.
The Bulls, including former director of scouting and now Magic assistant general manager Matt Lloyd, were in on Butler early. Management scouted Butler regularly at Marquette and pegged him to be available in the late first to early second round.
"I had known (then-Marquette coach Buzz Williams) for 25 years and Buzz swore by him," Forman said. "That's not calling to make a background check. That's a personal relationship that's built over time.
"All the adversity (Butler) had to overcome — not being a highly-touted high school guy, going to junior college — showed you what his makeup is. Then when we had him in to work out and went to dinner with him and interviewed him, there was no question he was a perfect fit with the culture we were trying to create."
The Bulls' draft night intelligence led management to believe only one team between the Nos. 24 and 29 picks had serious interest in Butler. Forman wouldn't reveal the team, but now-Clippers coach Doc Rivers said earlier this season the Celtics, who picked MarShon Brooks at No. 25, liked Butler.
Right after maneuvering to trade up for Mirotic, Forman said the Bulls actually made calls to move up again to ensure they would land Butler.
"Things are moving fast on draft night," Forman said. "Once (Butler) got past that team, there was some cheering then. When (pick) 29 came off the board, we were ecstatic."
Far more nervous moments surrounded the Mirotic acquisition.
Ivica Dukan, who Jerry Krause hired as the Bulls' director of international scouting in 1992, stumbled across Mirotic at age 16 while attending a Real Madrid practice to scout another player.
"Duke told us he was a very skilled big," said John Paxson, executive vice president of basketball operations. "And when (he) gets excited about a guy, you pay attention."
Dragan Tarlac and Dalibor Bagaric are international draft picks that didn't pan out.
"Whatever country it's in within Europe, you walk in and everybody knows Duke," Forman said. "He has created such a great network of contacts over there. That gives us a lot of opportunity to really get a lot of background on guys and know them from a really young age and follow their progression."
Mirotic confirmed his strong relationship with Dukan and Dukan's respectful working relationship with Real Madrid officials kept him in the 2011 draft even after he signed a five-year extension with the team in April of that year.
"I saw him a lot at my games," Mirotic said. "He's a great guy, very professional. He helped me a lot on my decision to come to the Bulls. I knew they had interest in me, but you never know what's going to happen in a draft. I was really lucky because Chicago took me and waited for me for three years."
The Bulls were lucky too.
Draft night intelligence confirmed a team in picks Nos. 24-27 would take Mirotic. The Bulls quickly called the Timberwolves, who had just acquired his rights from the Rockets at No. 23.
"We were bidding against somebody," Forman said. "Significant money was being laid out. And that's when (Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf) really stepped up and included a good chunk of money to make that happen."
Now, the Bulls plan to have Butler and Mirotic as core pieces for a long time.
"It was amazing. I was like, 'Those guys really want me,'" Mirotic said. "I was feeling great. But Jimmy at (pick) 30 is crazy because Jimmy right now is probably the MVP of the league."
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I've seen the story a couple times now about JFB and some friends renting a house all summer with no TV or internet so they'd have nothing to do but work out all the time. Does anyone know where the house was or who the friends were? Friends from Texas? any former MU players?
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I hope he stays a Bull. He's really developing great chemistry with the rest of the team and I think he'd regress if he signed somewhere else
that's not to say he'd regress a ton, his game is developing incredibly well and he'd be a great player on any team
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The Bulls might've paid Derrick Rose too much to rest his muscles to afford Jimmy the way he's playing.
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The Bulls can match any contract (and will). They won't be afraid to go over the salary cap with a guy who is in MVP discussions.
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NYWarrior reminded me of this from 2010!
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2010/09/case-for-jimmy-f-butler-as-big-east-poy.html
I totally saw this coming.
Just kidding. Nobody saw this coming.
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NYWarrior reminded me of this from 2010!
http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2010/09/case-for-jimmy-f-butler-as-big-east-poy.html
I totally saw this coming.
Just kidding. Nobody saw this coming.
I'm gonna go ahead and let you have that one. With 20/20 hindsight, you nailed it. It was a crime that JFB only got honorable mention all-BE his senior year. An absolute crime. He's been undervalued and under appreciated for quite some time.
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I'm gonna go ahead and let you have that one. With 20/20 hindsight, you nailed it. It was a crime that JFB only got honorable mention all-BE his senior year. An absolute crime. He's been undervalued and under appreciated for quite some time.
He won't be when it matters most.
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He won't be when it matters most.
Straight cash, homey
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I know for a fact that actually write checks, not straight cash.
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Straight cash, homey
Straight Cash, Homey.... Pay the man!