Figured I'd ask the scoop family if anyone is interested in buying my three packer playoff tickets. section 112, row 28, seats 1,2,3
Aisle seats, great view of the whole field.
I have offers for $200/piece all day. Let me know if you'd like them. Ideally trying to get $250/piece.
Thanks guys/gal
Quote from: JD on January 01, 2015, 03:00:28 PM
Figured I'd ask the scoop family if anyone is interested in buying my three packer playoff tickets. section 112, row 28, seats 1,2,3
Aisle seats, great view of the whole field.
I have offers for $200/piece all day. Let me know if you'd like them. Ideally trying to get $250/piece.
Thanks guys/gal
Help me understand.
You offer to sell the same tickets on your Craigslist ad and there you are..."hoping" to get $200 apiece:
http://greenbay.craigslist.org/tix/4827043489.html
But here, you hope to squeeze yet another $50/ticket from your fellow scoopers; is there an MU surcharge?
lol
Quote from: JD on January 01, 2015, 03:00:28 PM
Figured I'd ask the scoop family if anyone is interested in buying my three packer playoff tickets. section 112, row 28, seats 1,2,3
Aisle seats, great view of the whole field.
I have offers for $200/piece all day. Let me know if you'd like them. Ideally trying to get $250/piece.
Thanks guys/gal
You got served.
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Quote from: JD on January 01, 2015, 03:00:28 PM
Figured I'd ask the scoop family if anyone is interested in buying my three packer playoff tickets. section 112, row 28, seats 1,2,3
Aisle seats, great view of the whole field.
I have offers for $200/piece all day. Let me know if you'd like them. Ideally trying to get $250/piece.
Thanks guys/gal
I'll give you $250 for the set.
Quote from: houwarrior on January 01, 2015, 05:50:31 PM
Help me understand.
You offer to sell the same tickets on your Craigslist ad and there you are..."hoping" to get $200 apiece:
http://greenbay.craigslist.org/tix/4827043489.html
But here, you hope to squeeze yet another $50/ticket from your fellow scoopers; is there an MU surcharge?
lol
Ha, well after receiving 20 plus messages last night I decided against that.
If you look on stubhub they're $300, so 20/20
Why are you scalping on this site? Seriously, that's a real jagoff move
I guess the 80 page NFC north thread would allow me to assume there are quite a few packer fans here on scoop. That, along with Marquette being in Wisconsin. Forgive me, please..
Then why not sell them at face value?
Quote from: JD on January 01, 2015, 09:01:03 PM
I guess the 80 page NFC north thread would allow me to assume there are quite a few packer fans here on scoop. That, along with Marquette being in Wisconsin. Forgive me, please..
No one cares that your selling them here. We care that you came on here deliberately trying to get us to pay $150 extra for the tickets that you're selling somewhere else (and have offers for) for $200
As I said, they're listed on stubhub for $300/piece.
After receiving 30 messages last night on them, I figured I could probably do better. So hindsight is 20/20. People were asking $325 for tickets in the same area. I figured $250 was fair.
I love Scoop. God help me but I do love it so...
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How dare a man wish to maximize the economic value of an asset he owns. The proletariat cannot stand for such activity!
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I love Scoop. God help me but I do love it so...
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I love this every time you do it....just great on so many levels.
Quote from: JD on January 01, 2015, 09:28:17 PM
As I said, they're listed on stubhub for $300/piece.
After receiving 30 messages last night on them, I figured I could probably do better. So hindsight is 20/20. People were asking $325 for tickets in the same area. I figured $250 was fair.
I learned in my Business Law class many years ago that if offer something for sale at a certain price, and someone accepts that offer, that is a legally binding transaction. I had friends who got a great deal on FSBO house that way because the sellers didn't have a true idea of what their home was worth.
I believe you may owe those tickets to the first guy on Craigslist who said he'd give you the $200. I don't know, however, if your "hoping to" language allows you to weasel out.
Quote from: jficke13 on January 02, 2015, 08:35:46 AM
How dare a man wish to maximize the economic value of an asset he owns. The proletariat cannot stand for such activity!
Then he should put them up for auction. Not list them at various prices in different forums hoping he can get someone to bite.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 02, 2015, 12:21:08 PM
I learned in my Business Law class many years ago that if offer something for sale at a certain price, and someone accepts that offer, that is a legally binding transaction. I had friends who got a great deal on FSBO house that way because the sellers didn't have a true idea of what their home was worth.
I believe you may owe those tickets to the first guy on Craigslist who said he'd give you the $200. I don't know, however, if your "hoping to" language allows you to weasel out.
This is not entirely true. It often happens that people put a home up for sale, receive multiple offers (sometimes exceeding the listed price) and then decide to take it off the market and re-list at a higher price.
At least for things like houses, the seller must also sign the offer contract.
You've since deleted the listing, but when I read the page (by my memory) you offered them at $200, not "this is an auction, email me your best offer, starting at $200. After I get a bunch of offers, I'll pick the highest one."
I have no problem with an auction, as long as it is listed as such. You got a ton of $200 offers because .. that's what you were asking.
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As a note for the rest of you .. A fellow regular Scooper's daughter bought off Craigstlist 4x$200 tickets for last week's GB game. All fake. $800 lesson.
Here's the answer-- if you wanna piss with the big boys, pay Stubhub, aina?
Quote from: forgetful on January 02, 2015, 01:45:34 PM
This is not entirely true. It often happens that people put a home up for sale, receive multiple offers (sometimes exceeding the listed price) and then decide to take it off the market and re-list at a higher price.
At least for things like houses, the seller must also sign the offer contract.
Yeah, we also learned that what is technically legal and what ends up happening are two different things. Also, having the offer and the acceptance both in writing helps (hence an offer contract). My friends got the homeowners to sign an offer contract the day they listed (or rather, put the ad in the paper).
And in the house example, it has to be an acceptance that is completely free of any other contingencies (qualifying for a mortgage, passing an inspection, selling the old house), which rarely happens.
I am not saying someone is going to sue the OP over this, but in theory, he could.
Quote from: warriorchick on January 02, 2015, 12:21:08 PM
I believe you may owe those tickets to the first guy on Craigslist who said he'd give you the $200.
JD,
You know the right thing to do. I am sure you do. The StubHub reference sounds like a Detroit Lions lineman. lol. Craigslist's rules are fair.
Sell them for the very decent price of $200 , to the first who met your offer and chalk up your meager (very meager) paper loss to the regret of a "not asking for more" experience.
Good friends, good relations, and good reputaion are worth inestimable amounts, but a broken moral compass points to a less rewarding path. If nothing else, restore a scoopers belief in doing the right thing. lol
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 02, 2015, 01:48:37 PM
As a note for the rest of you .. A fellow regular Scooper's daughter bought off Craigstlist 4x$200 tickets for last week's GB game. All fake. $800 lesson.
My daughter has been learning a bit about this, but fortunately has not been burned...yet. She currently is in possession of two good and authentic tickets to a very desirable concert (in her estimation...your mileage may vary). She keeps wanting to "trade up" on Craigslist and other sites to get tickets right by the stage. She was about to pull the trigger on a ticket website a few days ago but before I let her, I had her google the site. It appears that the site's reviews were about 50/50 "this is a great site" and "the tickets I got were bogus." Ultimately, she chose to not risk it.
There sure are a lot of questionable ticket re-sale sites out there. I'm a little paranoid ever since watching someone get turned away at the gate at the Fiesta bowl with some very good fakes. I tend to stick with StubHub and other big brokers.
Quote from: forgetful on January 02, 2015, 01:45:34 PM
This is not entirely true. It often happens that people put a home up for sale, receive multiple offers (sometimes exceeding the listed price) and then decide to take it off the market and re-list at a higher price.
At least for things like houses, the seller must also sign the offer contract.
I'm pretty sure advertisements are considered an invitation to negotiate and not a set offer. Especially if details still need to be discussed to fit all the requirements of sale. Legally I wouldn't see any ground for being forced to sell at 200 but kind of a dick move.
Thought scoop had a no scalping rule, but mods can correct me if im wrong. I've only sold MU tickets on Scoop, but always at or below face. I don't mind going below face if it ensures butts in seats at the BC.
Advertisements (such as these types of postings) made to the general public are not within the realm of the legal "offer" for a contract, but rather an invitation to deal. The exception to that are rule bounties/rewards. So if he were, for instance, to offer these tickets as a reward for the man or woman who painted Bo Ryan's house blue and gold in the middle of the night, that mischievous and heroic Picasso would be able to claim the tickets.
Does it rub anyone else the wrong way that someone would use Scoop for profit when Scoop is a service provided for free to us by our gracious mods?
Selling at face and/or trading is one thing. But outright scalping doesn't sit well with me.
I don't believe there's ever been a no-above-face value rule.
Lots of tickets are sold here above face, and that's appropriate for some games. No problem having Scoop serve as a marketplace just like any other. (As long as no fraudulent tickets are sold...)
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on January 05, 2015, 11:15:06 AM
I don't believe there's ever been a no-above-face value rule.
Lots of tickets are sold here above face, and that's appropriate for some games. No problem having Scoop serve as a marketplace just like any other. (As long as no fraudulent tickets are sold...)
Well there goes that idea!
Quote from: wadesworld on January 05, 2015, 12:14:59 PM
Well there goes that idea!
I'm disappointed I cannot find a picture of the Simpsons' Super Bowl tickets printed on a cracker.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on January 05, 2015, 10:22:57 AM
Does it rub anyone else the wrong way that someone would use Scoop for profit when Scoop is a service provided for free to us by our gracious mods?
Selling at face and/or trading is one thing. But outright scalping doesn't sit well with me.
I seldom disagree with your opinions, but I do here. There is pretty much always a premium paid by 3rd parties when acquiring tickets.
As long as he delivers the product he is pushing, I've got no problem.
As someone who has extensive experience buying and selling tickets on various sites (including eBay, CL, StubHub, Ticket Xchange, etc.), let me offer a few bits of wisdom:
Craigslist --
1) Easily the most profitable from a seller's standpoint (because you don't incur fees) but also the most time-intensive. Not only do you have to spend more time weeding through "offers" (see #2 below), but you also have to take the time to meet someone, somewhere, at a time when you're both available. I've only had one no-show out of 15-20 total CL transactions, but I easily spend at least a couple hours and up to perhaps 4 or 5 in the aggregate on a CL transaction... which is fine if I have time, not so much when I have a busy schedule.
2) Sellers: if you get an "offer" that doesn't include a phone number, there's a 99% chance that it's not a bona fide "offer" at all. Out of all the "offers" I've had to respond via email or CL, not a single one has transacted; most - if they even do respond - will wait a couple days and then say they are no longer interested or will offer a lower price... basically the opposite of what the OP is doing here (farming for a better offer).
3) Buyers: if you're serious about your offer (i.e. you're willing to commit to buy if the seller accepts your offer), put your phone number in the response. And if the seller lists a phone number, don't email a response.
eBay:
1) Two words: Free Shipping. I can't emphasize this enough and how much easier it is to sell tickets for $105 including shipping than $100 + $5 more for USPS Priority shipping.
2) Much more sophisticated than CL, which means the scammers are even scammier than CL. Here's a little trick that someone tried to play on me once: sold my tickets on eBay about a week prior to the game, and the buyer paid via PayPal. The money showed up in my PayPal account right away, but because it was over a certain dollar amount, PayPal puts a temporary hold on the payment (i.e. it can't be withdrawn) pending tracking info showing signature confirmation or positive feedback. The buyer isn't at home to accept the delivery, so the envelope is held at the post office or UPS/FedEx pickup location where it sits for a couple days. 24 hours before the event, I get an email from the buyer asking to refund his money since he can't attend the game... if I agree, he will go and pick up the tickets five minutes after and overnight them back to me so that I can at least use them myself or try to sell them day-of-event. Of course, I'm running the risk that he never sends the tickets back, and I'm out both the tickets and the money.
If I refuse, he never picks up the tickets, USPS automatically sends the tickets back to me after a certain number of days or attempts, PayPal sees the tracking information that shows "returned to sender" and refunds the money to him any way. The buyer doesn't benefit in the this scenario, but I'm still out the cost of the tickets (not to mention, I don't even get to sell them to someone else or use them because the game is already over by the time I get the tickets back), and knowing this, the buyer uses the possibility of him being out nothing and me being out everything to leverage me into agreeing to "refund" his money (on the possibility that I might get the tickets back in time).
Fortunately, tickets have bar codes now, and if you're the original purchaser, it's not a big deal to have the tickets re-issued or re-printed (nullifying the originals) if you lose or misplace them. But if you've bought the tickets from someone else, you may be S.O.L. Not to mention that even with this safety net, you have less than 24 hours to resell your tickets or make arrangements to use them yourself.
StubHub/eXchange:
1) Easiest, most secure way to sell short of selling to a friend, family member or co-worker.
2) Fees will kill you.
3) Competition can leave you out in the cold. You constantly have to monitor sales history and where other seats in your section are selling so that you're not priced too high, especially for NFL playoff games where prices can be highly volatile. Sure, similar seats may have sold for $250 the day before you listed yours at $200, but 72 hours before kickoff, the going rate might be $150, and if you haven't adjusted your price, the only way you're selling is if the rest of the secondary market dries up first.
4) Also, something like 95% of StubHub buyers start by searching a section/price level or by price alone... if you're in a "middle-tier" price level (i.e. not the best seats in the house, but also not the cheapest available), despite the sentiment that demand will be high because you're seats are the biggest bang for the buck, they might not sell because people are searching on opposite ends of the spectrum, not in the middle.
5) Parking passes are very difficult to sell on StubHub, and I don't think you can sell them with your tickets (which was always a nice incentive to coax buyers into a higher price when I sold tickets on eBay or CL).
There's much more... but these are the highlights. IMHO, I'm willing to deal with the cost of StubHub or eXchange and never deal with CL or eBay ever again. I also don't buy parking in advance anymore.
Good info, Benny.
Why hasn't someone invented a .. flat-rate Stubhub service? Sure, it wouldn't make huge money .. but there's a market for it, people would abandon Stubhub quickly.
It never amazes me the dumb stuff people get butt hurt over on this site. Free market JD, go ahead, if there's an issue I'm sure the moderators are capable. I never realized it was a communal decision as to what someone can do with their own tickets, that's a new one.
Quote from: muhoosier260 on January 05, 2015, 09:53:13 PM
It never amazes me the dumb stuff people get butt hurt over on this site. Free market JD, go ahead, if there's an issue I'm sure the moderators are capable. I never realized it was a communal decision as to what someone can do with their own tickets, that's a new one.
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so are the tickets still available and what is the current price?