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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 79Warrior on December 31, 2014, 07:57:25 PM

Title: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: 79Warrior on December 31, 2014, 07:57:25 PM

Lost in so much of the usual Derrick bashing has been the dismal offense from Taylor. I have never seen a 6'7" guy get so many shots blocked. 1-7 from the field. This team is so thin and he has got to figure out how to score, especially the bunnies he bricks.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: BCHoopster on December 31, 2014, 08:00:57 PM
No explosion left in his knee and not smart enough to figure how to get other types of shots, to bad
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: warriorfan 14 on December 31, 2014, 08:03:55 PM
did have 7 boards, but yes he can't finish strong at all. if he doesn't improve he'll probably only see spot minutes next year
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 31, 2014, 08:15:44 PM
STJ is pretty brutal. No way around it.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 31, 2014, 08:27:51 PM
The knock on Steve in high school was he tended to hang out on the perimeter for catch and shoots. He doesn't have Parker and Nunn on this team and his role is as a post up.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: chapman on December 31, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
He's Jamil Wilson soft.  If he's the 240 he's listed at he should be bowling over guys and breaking some bones.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: connie on December 31, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on December 31, 2014, 08:00:57 PM
No explosion left in his knee and not smart enough to figure how to get other types of shots, to bad
His explosiveness was a hallmark of his early play.  Sure seems like that is missing now.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: mumagz84 on December 31, 2014, 08:36:56 PM
Steve Taylor Jr.'s New Year's resolution....


Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Nukem2 on December 31, 2014, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: connie on December 31, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
His explosiveness was a hallmark of his early play.  Sure seems like that is missing now.

Yes.  Really struggles elevating going to the hoop now.  Needs to re-invent himself.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Scooter22 on December 31, 2014, 09:13:08 PM
Steve needs to learn the baby hook, and some additional post moves.  Maybe working against Luke will help, but it doesn't seem to have thus far.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 31, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: chapman on December 31, 2014, 08:33:41 PM
He's Jamil Wilson soft.  If he's the 240 he's listed at he should be bowling over guys and breaking some bones.


Flaccid, hey?
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on December 31, 2014, 09:51:12 PM
We definitely need to upgrade the talent. Steve it's just not that good.  He shoots a horrible % for a big guy and is not great defensively. 
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: brewcity77 on December 31, 2014, 09:52:50 PM
Quote from: Scooter22 on December 31, 2014, 09:13:08 PM
Steve needs to learn the baby hook, and some additional post moves.  Maybe working against Luke will help, but it doesn't seem to have thus far.

He's been working against Luke for a year now, and both CO and Davante before that. His decline is reminiscent of Joe Fulce, who was never the same after his injuries. He is what he odds. A good strong rebounder, adequate shooter, but without the athleticism to have much post presence.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 01, 2015, 07:47:36 AM
Steve is not the player he was two years ago.  It seems that he lost his jumping aability and scoring touch.  Last year's injury must have been much more serious than we thought. 
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: GGGG on January 01, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
I think we are mis-remembering him from two years ago.  I don't recall the explosive, high flying player we are suggesting he was.  He was a guy who came in, knocked down some shots and got some rebounds on an E8 team where he was hardly the focal point of the defense.

I think Blackheart is spot on here. He just doesn't have the game to do what is asked of him.  He's a guy who prefers to play facing the basket and shooting the ball.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: willie warrior on January 01, 2015, 08:02:27 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 01, 2015, 07:56:23 AM
I think we are mis-remembering him from two years ago.  I don't recall the explosive, high flying player we are suggesting he was.  He was a guy who came in, knocked down some shots and got some rebounds on an E8 team where he was hardly the focal point of the defense.

I think Blackheart is spot on here. He just doesn't have the game to do what is asked of him.  He's a guy who prefers to play facing the basket and shooting the ball.
You may be right on this Sultan. But he was rated the best senior in Illinois when he matriculated, and he is 6'7", so we should expect him to make at least half of the bunnies that he is missing. If he prefers to play facing the basket, then he can stand in line with the rest of the guys we have that do that.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: MUfan12 on January 01, 2015, 10:02:58 AM
Is he close to graduating? If so, it might not be a bad idea for him to play his last year at a mid-major. Don't think he can hack it at this level. Lost on offense, lost on defense.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Daniel on January 01, 2015, 10:34:46 AM
Quote from: mumagz84 on December 31, 2014, 08:36:56 PM
Steve Taylor Jr.'s New Year's resolution....


  • I will focus on scoring more
  • I will be a better rebounder
  • I will play hard (and smart) and give 110% all the time
  • I will play better defense
  • Increase my vertical beyond 3 inches  ;)
  • What else?...



Finish at the rim by stuffing the ball through the hoop and not trying to kiss it off the glass.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 01, 2015, 10:55:20 AM
Y'all talkin' 'bout Tequila or Schnapps shots? I'm figurin' Steve's pretty good at makin' those, aina?
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Newsdreams on January 01, 2015, 02:07:42 PM
Quote from: mumagz84 on December 31, 2014, 08:36:56 PM
Steve Taylor Jr.'s New Year's resolution....


  • I will focus on scoring more
  • I will be a better rebounder
  • I will play hard (and smart) and give 110% all the time
  • I will play better defense
  • Increase my vertical beyond 3 inches  ;)
  • What else?...
Stop taking that one dribble every time he gets a pass
Avoid having the ball at or below the waist when attacking the basket where guards can steal it

Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Texas Western on January 02, 2015, 07:42:18 PM
I think if he stays healthy and plays in the game  at the same time as Luke he will contribute. He does seem to prefer facing the basket and he will get some kick outs that way.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 03, 2015, 12:37:01 AM
I will be intrigued to see what Taylor's role will be next season. With Henry, Luke, and Heldt already committed, and three open scholarships, Steve might find himself in a crowded situation. He is being given playing time this season but will need to earn it the next.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: brewcity77 on January 03, 2015, 08:49:38 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 03, 2015, 12:37:01 AMI will be intrigued to see what Taylor's role will be next season. With Henry, Luke, and Heldt already committed, and three open scholarships, Steve might find himself in a crowded situation. He is being given playing time this season but will need to earn it the next.

I've been wondering the same. I think a lot will depend on what happens with the open scholarships. If we add another big like Akoy Agau that could definitely leave Steve in a tough spot for minutes. Three scholarships leaves a lot up in the air.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Nevada233 on January 03, 2015, 08:57:49 AM
ST Jr. season thusfar has been a huge dissapointment....

Can't rebound, block shots or score inside... We clearly see why Bert had him on the bench last year...
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: 79Warrior on January 03, 2015, 07:27:24 PM
Quote from: Nevada233 on January 03, 2015, 08:57:49 AM
ST Jr. season thusfar has been a huge dissapointment....

Can't rebound, block shots or score inside... We clearly see why Bert had him on the bench last year...


He had a few solid rebounds and a key putback today. But, just not enough production from him. He may be relegated to number 8 if Sandy really develops.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: jsglow on January 03, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Steve had a nice game today.  4 rebounds in 11 minutes and a very nice put back when we needed a hoop badly.  Plus he does it without committing fouls.
Title: Re: Let's hope in 2015 STJ can make some shots
Post by: Nukem2 on January 03, 2015, 08:09:37 PM
Quote from: jsglow on January 03, 2015, 08:01:47 PM
Steve had a nice game today.  4 rebounds in 11 minutes and a very nice put back when we needed a hoop badly.  Plus he does it without committing fouls.
Yep.  Steve had a very nice game today.
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