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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: duanewade on December 31, 2014, 06:35:23 PM

Title: I'll give the coaching committee credit..:
Post by: duanewade on December 31, 2014, 06:35:23 PM
In that it takes a lot of work to find the one coach in America who can get out-coached by Oliver Purnell.

If not taking Gabe Levin and Carlino weren't early signs of his "brilliance" then watching his player personal choices and game managent has me wanting to patent "Wojo Bellicheck" t-shirts.

"Brilliantly" push Deonte and Dawson out of the program so you can play Derrick Wilson, Carlino and Juan extensively as they are colletively good for 6 points and 10 unforced turnovers a game.

Then don't start your star center with a NBA body but have him come off the bench. Then teach this center not to develop a five foot jumper and/or find a way to draw aggressive fouls when a zone or double team comes but just to pass out to the opposite side of the 3 point line every time even if the other teams catches on to this.  Meanwhile tell the other players to stop being aggressive too and just pass it around the perimeter so you can throw up a low percentage shot with the shot clock winding down.

Of course having an incompetent and/or crooked official call an absurd charge on Luke Fisher instead of two free-throws doesn't help....that call was another four point swing against us and essentially sealed Marquette's fate today.

The perfect storm above led us losing to one of the worst teams in college b-ball in a quasi home game.

Let's hope 2015 brings wisdom to our coaches as 2014 left a lot to be desired from both Buzz and Wojo.
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Post by: We R Final Four on December 31, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
"I agree"
      --Willie Warrior
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Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 31, 2014, 06:37:58 PM
Oh hey, haven't seen you since Wisconsin. Please leave again you're not wanted. Mods can we please ban this pretty boy once and for all?
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Post by: mattyv1908 on December 31, 2014, 06:38:38 PM

Of course having an incompetent and/or crooked official call an absurd charge on Luke Fisher instead of two free-throws doesn't help....that call was another four point swing against us and essentially sealed Marquette's fate today.


Garrett clearly was in position in time and drew a pretty easy charging call.
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Post by: GGGG on December 31, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
The charge on Fischer was completely obvious.  Garrett was still, in plenty of time, and his feet were outside the arc.  He should have dumped it off to Duane.
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Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 31, 2014, 06:42:36 PM
Garrett clearly was in position in time and drew a pretty easy charging call.

This is true..

Ignore the troll
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Post by: BCHoopster on December 31, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
If Wison had a left hand it should have been an easy lay up, never should have dished it to Luke, fundamentals, Derrick needed to take the ball into the middle then three on one.
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Post by: GGGG on December 31, 2014, 06:44:47 PM
If Wison had a left hand it should have been an easy lay up, never should have dished it to Luke, fundamentals, Derrick needed to take the ball into the middle then three on one.


Fundamentally you get the ball to the middle.  The problem is that Fischer barreled into the lane out of control.
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Post by: 314warrior on December 31, 2014, 06:45:14 PM
If Wison had a left hand it should have been an easy lay up, never should have dished it to Luke, fundamentals, Derrick needed to take the ball into the middle then three on one.

Agreed.  Luke had no chance once he got that ball.  He was too close and moving too fast to not foul him on a shot.
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Post by: We R Final Four on December 31, 2014, 06:54:59 PM

Fundamentally you get the ball to the middle.  The problem is that Fischer barreled into the lane out of control.
If de Will would have thrown it to the rim for Luke to go get, it would not have been a charge.
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Post by: GGGG on December 31, 2014, 06:56:28 PM
If de Will would have thrown it to the rim for Luke to go get, it would not have been a charge.


He wouldn't have been able to alley-oop it in from that distance.  Fischer should have dumped it off to Duane who was wide open to his right, with his hands up waiting for the pass.  That IMO was 100% on Fischer.
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Post by: tower912 on December 31, 2014, 06:58:16 PM

He wouldn't have been able to alley-oop it in from that distance.  Fischer should have dumped it off to Duane who was wide open to his right, with his hands up waiting for the pass.  That IMO was 100% on Fischer.

I think Derrick should have thrown the lob to Duane.
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Post by: We R Final Four on December 31, 2014, 07:18:05 PM

He wouldn't have been able to alley-oop it in from that distance.  Fischer should have dumped it off to Duane who was wide open to his right, with his hands up waiting for the pass.  That IMO was 100% on Fischer.
? Derrick passed the ball behind him to Luke's mid section.  One second earlier, if DWill lobs it up we are not discussing this. Most 7' running the lane aren't expecting a pass to their mid section. It's on Derrick.
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Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on December 31, 2014, 07:24:47 PM
Agree. Luke had no time to react but go to the hoop.
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Post by: GGGG on December 31, 2014, 07:35:50 PM
Of course he had time to react.  He decided to barrel into the guy.
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Post by: LegalEagle15 on December 31, 2014, 07:52:39 PM
Derrick needed to take another step or two and force the defender to fully commit to him before making the pass to Luke. It was the right idea, he just made his pass too early.
Title: Re: I'll give the coaching committee credit..:
Post by: WarriorFan on December 31, 2014, 09:49:48 PM
In that it takes a lot of work to find the one coach in America who can get out-coached by Oliver Purnell.

If not taking Gabe Levin and Carlino weren't early signs of his "brilliance" then watching his player personal choices and game managent has me wanting to patent "Wojo Bellicheck" t-shirts.

"Brilliantly" push Deonte and Dawson out of the program so you can play Derrick Wilson, Carlino and Juan extensively as they are colletively good for 6 points and 10 unforced turnovers a game.

Then don't start your star center with a NBA body but have him come off the bench. Then teach this center not to develop a five foot jumper and/or find a way to draw aggressive fouls when a zone or double team comes but just to pass out to the opposite side of the 3 point line every time even if the other teams catches on to this.  Meanwhile tell the other players to stop being aggressive too and just pass it around the perimeter so you can throw up a low percentage shot with the shot clock winding down.

Of course having an incompetent and/or crooked official call an absurd charge on Luke Fisher instead of two free-throws doesn't help....that call was another four point swing against us and essentially sealed Marquette's fate today.

The perfect storm above led us losing to one of the worst teams in college b-ball in a quasi home game.

Let's hope 2015 brings wisdom to our coaches as 2014 left a lot to be desired from both Buzz and Wojo.

Hater or Troll???

Either way, the above statements are way overboard.
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Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 31, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
Hater or Troll???

Either way, the above statements are way overboard.

+1

This post is what I hate about message boards, irrational thoughts using poor grammar just meant to troll. 

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Post by: hairy worthen on December 31, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
The charge on Fischer was completely obvious.  Garrett was still, in plenty of time, and his feet were outside the arc.  He should have dumped it off to Duane.
Bingo, poor decision by derrick. Should have given it up right away to duwil he had an easy basket.
Title: Re: I'll give the coaching committee credit..:
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 31, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
In that it takes a lot of work to find the one coach in America who can get out-coached by Oliver Purnell.

If not taking Gabe Levin and Carlino weren't early signs of his "brilliance" then watching his player personal choices and game managent has me wanting to patent "Wojo Bellicheck" t-shirts.

"Brilliantly" push Deonte and Dawson out of the program so you can play Derrick Wilson, Carlino and Juan extensively as they are colletively good for 6 points and 10 unforced turnovers a game.

Then don't start your star center with a NBA body but have him come off the bench. Then teach this center not to develop a five foot jumper and/or find a way to draw aggressive fouls when a zone or double team comes but just to pass out to the opposite side of the 3 point line every time even if the other teams catches on to this.  Meanwhile tell the other players to stop being aggressive too and just pass it around the perimeter so you can throw up a low percentage shot with the shot clock winding down.

Of course having an incompetent and/or crooked official call an absurd charge on Luke Fisher instead of two free-throws doesn't help....that call was another four point swing against us and essentially sealed Marquette's fate today.

The perfect storm above led us losing to one of the worst teams in college b-ball in a quasi home game.

Let's hope 2015 brings wisdom to our coaches as 2014 left a lot to be desired from both Buzz and Wojo.

Wow, I guess you're a lock to pass out well before midnight.
Title: Re: I'll give the coaching committee credit..:
Post by: Galway Eagle on January 01, 2015, 09:12:52 AM
In that it takes a lot of work to find the one coach in America who can get out-coached by Oliver Purnell.

If not taking Gabe Levin and Carlino weren't early signs of his "brilliance" then watching his player personal choices and game managent has me wanting to patent "Wojo Bellicheck" t-shirts.

"Brilliantly" push Deonte and Dawson out of the program so you can play Derrick Wilson, Carlino and Juan extensively as they are colletively good for 6 points and 10 unforced turnovers a game.

Then don't start your star center with a NBA body but have him come off the bench. Then teach this center not to develop a five foot jumper and/or find a way to draw aggressive fouls when a zone or double team comes but just to pass out to the opposite side of the 3 point line every time even if the other teams catches on to this.  Meanwhile tell the other players to stop being aggressive too and just pass it around the perimeter so you can throw up a low percentage shot with the shot clock winding down.

Of course having an incompetent and/or crooked official call an absurd charge on Luke Fisher instead of two free-throws doesn't help....that call was another four point swing against us and essentially sealed Marquette's fate today.

The perfect storm above led us losing to one of the worst teams in college b-ball in a quasi home game.

Let's hope 2015 brings wisdom to our coaches as 2014 left a lot to be desired from both Buzz and Wojo.

You're right getting carlino was a huge mistake we should totally only have 7 active players instead!
Title: Re: I'll give the coaching committee credit..:
Post by: T.V. Diener 34 on January 01, 2015, 10:09:57 AM
Wow clicked on this thread and had no idea why I had OP on ignore.... now I know why
Title: Re: I'll give the coaching committee credit..:
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 03, 2015, 04:34:07 PM
Dumbest post started by the stupidest poster on this board.
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Post by: Sylvester78 on January 03, 2015, 04:51:08 PM
Wojo has done a tremendous job. Any one the says otherwise is a dope.

And it will only get better as he gets HIS recruits here.
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Post by: mattyv1908 on January 05, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Dumbest post started by the stupidest poster on this board.

While this is a dumb post, weren't you just arguing against fouling when down late in games when trailing because it hardly ever works?
Title: Re: I'll give the coaching committee credit..:
Post by: MU82 on January 05, 2015, 10:37:36 PM
In that it takes a lot of work to find the one coach in America who can get out-coached by Oliver Purnell.

If not taking Gabe Levin and Carlino weren't early signs of his "brilliance" then watching his player personal choices and game managent has me wanting to patent "Wojo Bellicheck" t-shirts.

"Brilliantly" push Deonte and Dawson out of the program so you can play Derrick Wilson, Carlino and Juan extensively as they are colletively good for 6 points and 10 unforced turnovers a game.

Then don't start your star center with a NBA body but have him come off the bench. Then teach this center not to develop a five foot jumper and/or find a way to draw aggressive fouls when a zone or double team comes but just to pass out to the opposite side of the 3 point line every time even if the other teams catches on to this.  Meanwhile tell the other players to stop being aggressive too and just pass it around the perimeter so you can throw up a low percentage shot with the shot clock winding down.

Of course having an incompetent and/or crooked official call an absurd charge on Luke Fisher instead of two free-throws doesn't help....that call was another four point swing against us and essentially sealed Marquette's fate today.

The perfect storm above led us losing to one of the worst teams in college b-ball in a quasi home game.

Let's hope 2015 brings wisdom to our coaches as 2014 left a lot to be desired from both Buzz and Wojo.

I'll give you a lot of credit.

It takes a lot of work to be even a bigger douchebag than you usually are.

Congrats!
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Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on January 06, 2015, 12:23:26 AM
? Derrick passed the ball behind him to Luke's mid section.  One second earlier, if DWill lobs it up we are not discussing this. Most 7' running the lane aren't expecting a pass to their mid section. It's on Derrick.
Yea I agree on where a pass should go to a big man running or in motion. You have to get the ball up high. But I have to see the angle to know for sure.
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Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 06, 2015, 07:27:11 AM
While this is a dumb post, weren't you just arguing against fouling when down late in games when trailing because it hardly ever works?

Yes, but that was when you're down more than 6 points with less than a minute left.  Not in any circumstance, as you're trying to suggest I said.

And I argued that because some were getting extremely agitated that were not fouling against MSU, as if that legitimately denied us the chance to win (and Wojo is an amateur).  Yes you could do it out of desperation, or you could try and play good D.  But if your hope is fouling and expecting them to 0 for 4 or 1 for 5 at the FT line and then rush the ball down to the other side in 5 seconds to hit consecutive threes just makes the poster suggesting this look dumb and uniformed.