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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 04:27:21 PM

Title: Our identity going forward
Post by: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 04:27:21 PM
We can make threes. When was the last time we could say that.

We have some slashers

We have a big, maybe two.

We can play really good D, again, at times. 

Teams won't want to play us.

Dickie loves us.

GO WARRIORS!!!!!
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: We R Final Four on December 28, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
Who is our second big???
Cuz it certainly isn't STJR.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 28, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 04:27:21 PM


We have a big, maybe two

GO WARRIORS!!!!!

We have a big.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 05:10:22 PM
Something tells me Steve breaks out big on Wednesday v DePaul. Hometown crowd and all. 2000 relatives show up.

Steve will figure it out.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: Skatastrophy on December 28, 2014, 05:39:53 PM
The team that can't close out.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: LloydsLegs on December 28, 2014, 05:47:24 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 05:10:22 PM
Something tells me Steve breaks out big on Wednesday v DePaul. Hometown crowd and all. 2000 relatives show up.

Steve will figure it out.

When Chili makes a prediction, Scoopers listen...
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: rocky_warrior on December 28, 2014, 06:02:25 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 28, 2014, 05:39:53 PM
The team that can't close out.

You thought we should finis up  30 instead of  28? 
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 28, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 05:10:22 PM
Something tells me Steve breaks out big on Wednesday v DePaul. Hometown crowd and all. 2000 relatives show up.

Steve will figure it out.

Didn't you say Steve was going to break out during today's game too? I really want Steve to break out, but I'm getting impatient.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: Warrior Code on December 28, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: rocky_warrior on December 28, 2014, 06:02:25 PM
You thought we should finis up  30 instead of  28? 

I think he meant on defense, closing out on a shooter.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 28, 2014, 06:50:13 PM
Does Dickie really loves is?

Seems like he just talks up everyone when he does the game. Luke was a game changer, then Derrick etc...

He had us as 8th in conference at best lol
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: tower912 on December 28, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
I like what I have seen from MU and Wojo.   But most of the rest of the league looks better, too.   MU's identity going forward is a cipher.   One injury changes everything. 
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: GGGG on December 28, 2014, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 28, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
Didn't you say Steve was going to break out during today's game too? I really want Steve to break out, but I'm getting impatient.


Yeah I am beginning to think that last year was not an aberration. 
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 07:37:01 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 28, 2014, 06:19:26 PM
Didn't you say Steve was going to break out during today's game too? I really want Steve to break out, but I'm getting impatient.

Yes I did.  Hopefully, I was just off by a game. I think he busts out big in His home town. 

Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: real chili 83 on December 28, 2014, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 28, 2014, 07:10:06 PM

Yeah I am beginning to think that last year was not an aberration. 

Despite my enthusiasm, I fear you may be right.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: NCMUFan on December 28, 2014, 07:49:58 PM
The team is undefeated with Luke joining.  Ok, other than ASU cupcakes, but still, I think we can play with the best.  MU without Luke was able to hang in with Wisky, OSU and MSU (at least for a while).
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on December 28, 2014, 08:00:09 PM
As we enter conference play, Wojo needs to settle on a line up. It will get a lot more physical, the coaching and talent a lot better.  MU cannot continue to rebound like they did today.The zone will be more exposed. Luke and Steve need to start with Juan...one of the Wilsons and either Carlino or JJJ.  He cannot continue to cheat with three and four small guards in the line-up to try toprotect MU's lack of depth in the front court. Maybe in some games or situations but it is all in time.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 28, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 28, 2014, 07:10:06 PM

Yeah I am beginning to think that last year was not an aberration. 

Steve insisted he wasn't hurt last year and maybe he was past the pain of his injury but he wasn't the same player he'd been as a freshman. Still isn't.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: jsheim on December 28, 2014, 08:33:28 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 28, 2014, 08:00:09 PM
As we enter conference play, Wojo needs to settle on a line up. It will get a lot more physical, the coaching and talent a lot better.  MU cannot continue to rebound like they did today.The zone will be more exposed. Luke and Steve need to start with Juan...one of the Wilsons and either Carlino or JJJ.  He cannot continue to cheat with three and four small guards in the line-up to try toprotect MU's lack of depth in the front court. Maybe in some games or situations but it is all in time.

Agree....need to favor rebounds over speed:
Base: Luke/Steve/Juan    Add: JJJ/Duane/Carlino/Derrick as appropriate.  
Never leave 4 guards for very long or no-Luke for very long.  
Sandy use if fouls or everyone else cold. He's got to prove he does more than hit threes....which is great but Carlino does more than that.

Also: we are going to lose at least one game because of foul trouble (particularly Luke)...some team's going to figure that out.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: GGGG on December 28, 2014, 08:35:05 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 28, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Steve insisted he wasn't hurt last year and maybe he was past the pain of his injury but he wasn't the same player he'd been as a freshman. Still isn't.

Honestly I wonder if our recollections of his freshman year was framed by our expectations...or lack thereof.    Because looking back on it statistically, and the game log, nothing spectacular stands out to me.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 28, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 28, 2014, 08:35:05 PM
Honestly I wonder if our recollections of his freshman year was framed by our expectations...or lack thereof.    Because looking back on it statistically, and the game log, nothing spectacular stands out to me.

You are probably right - I just don't remember the missed bunnies and the fumbled passes from his freshman season.
Title: Re: Our identity going forward
Post by: tower912 on December 28, 2014, 08:48:20 PM
Whereas #freestevetaylor was quite a thing two years ago, he was a freshman playing with no expectations, no responsibilities, no scouting reports.    He had Juan, Jamil, Trent, Vander, CO, Davante all getting as many or more minutes.   From time to time, with the right matchup, he would go in and have several good minutes.   He was never a great defender and he was never consistent.   Deonte was probably more consistent as a freshman.   What has struck me is that STjr is not confident with the ball around the basket and isn't strong rebounding, which did seem to be two things he had going as a frosh.   
Going forward, it is not possible for me to diagree more with a starting frontline of Steve, Luke, and Juan.   If you want more size in the starting lineup, sub in JJJ for Carlino or Duane.  80 minutes split between S/L/J at the 4-5.  Steve is just going to have to find his way.   
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