Well if we can accept the reality of the scenario we are facing with Burton and Dawson gone, let's talk minutes
Independent of position here's how I see the minutes break down on average with our 8 scholarship players
Du Wilson - 30
Carlino - 30
Cohen - 20
De Wilson - 25
Fischer - 20
Anderson - 30
Johnson - 20
Teve - 25
Thoughts?
My thoughts are this team better stay healthy, or we could legitimately see some 4 on 5 basketball.
Quote from: mu03eng on December 09, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Well if we can accept the reality of the scenario we are facing with Burton and Dawson gone, let's talk minutes
Independent of position here's how I see the minutes break down on average with our 8 scholarship players
Du Wilson - 30
Carlino - 30
Cohen - 20
De Wilson - 25
Fischer - 20
Anderson - 30
Johnson - 20
Teve - 25
Thoughts?
I would think Cohen gets less and Juan and Carlino get more. Partially based on Cohen's not looking quite as comfortable in the zone and partially based on my priors about what playing time distributions look like. I don't think there are many teams with playing time distributed so evenly.
The only good thing about having 8 warm bodies is that nobody will be able to bitch about minutes. Plenty available.
My hope:
Duane: 32
Carlino: 32
Anderson: 30
Fischer: 26
Taylor: 24
Cohen: 24
Jajuan: 20
Derrick: 12
A Walk-on would be helpful. Do it.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 09, 2014, 02:47:14 PM
My thoughts are this team better stay healthy, or we could legitimately see some 4 on 5 basketball.
No, I won't go there.
I see the top minute guys as:
Carlino 33
Juan 32
Derrick 29
Duane 29
Here's the distribution on the rest:
Luke 24
Steve 24
Sandy 14
JJJ 14
Chitown 1
Seriously guys. We absolutely need a couple of walk-ons in uniform. We're an injury or two away from truly not being able to effectively compete. Okay, who on this board is truly old enough to remember 'scrambled eggs'? Forget about it 03eng. You just read your history book. Young whippersnapper.
Okay, who on this board is truly old enough to remember 'scrambled eggs'? Forget about it 03eng. You just read your history book. Young whippersnapper.
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I liked Hugh McMahon!
Quote from: jsglow on December 09, 2014, 03:50:21 PM
I see the top minute guys as:
Carlino 33
Juan 32
Derrick 29
Duane 29
Here's the distribution on the rest:
Luke 24
Steve 24
Sandy 14
JJJ 14
Chitown 1
Seriously guys. We absolutely need a couple of walk-ons in uniform. We're an injury or two away from truly not being able to effectively compete. Okay, who on this board is truly old enough to remember 'scrambled eggs'? Forget about it 03eng. You just read your history book. Young whippersnapper.
<hangs head in shame>
Quote from: mu03eng on December 09, 2014, 04:10:55 PM
<hangs head in shame>
Okay, here's a test 03! Explain the concept (utilized and perfected by Al). No help from any of you old guys. Let's see what this 'kid' knows!
Ironically enough I share the same first name as someone on the team.
Quote from: ChitownJuan on December 09, 2014, 04:21:31 PM
Ironically enough I share the same first name as someone on the team.
That doesn't mean I'm putting you in more than the one minute I have allotted. ;D
I expect...
Juan 32
Derrick 30
Carlino 30
Duane 30
Fischer 25
Steve 25
Sandy 14
Jajuan 14
Does Diener have any eligibility left? :o
I've got
Carlino 33
Duane 30
Juan 30
Derrick 27
Fischer 25
Steve 25
Cohen 15
JjJ 15
I just have to reapportion Deonte's minutes, probably to Cohen.
Steve/Juan/Luke, evenly split 80 minutes at the 4/5
Duane, Derrick, Carlino 32 each
JJJ 14, Cohen 10.
Quote from: ChitownJuan on December 09, 2014, 04:21:31 PM
Ironically enough I share the same first name as someone on the team.
JaJuan??
Derrick is going to play 30 mpg the rest of the year. Wrap your head around it, accept it, recognize that there is no other option and move on.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on December 09, 2014, 03:01:14 PM
My hope:
Duane: 32
Carlino: 32
Anderson: 30
Fischer: 26
Taylor: 24
Cohen: 24
Jajuan: 20
Derrick: 12
There is zero chance that Derrick only averages 12 minutes the rest of the season. You might as well wish for DWade to suit up again and play 40 mins a night.
Quote from: MUSF on December 09, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
There is zero chance that Derrick only averages 12 minutes the rest of the season. You might as well wish for DWade to suit up again and play 40 mins a night.
I agree, and it's truly a tragedy that neither will come to fruition.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on December 09, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
I agree, and it's truly a tragedy that neither will come to fruition.
Tragedy?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 09, 2014, 08:34:38 PM
Tragedy?
Indeed, a tragedy for my eyeballs. The last time an MU offense looked this inept while producing so little, Marcus Jackson was bringing the ball up after Diener went down. Think about that. A mediocre PF/C leading the charge produced the same offensive results.
Derrick is akin to a ball control QB whose only discernible offensive skills are handing the ball off and kneeling to end the half. Sure he doesn't turn it over ever, but he also doesn't create anything positive to generate points either. And the lack of dynamism makes the whole team eminently easier to guard. Just stack the line because the QB is not a threat. Unless you have a historically good defense, you aren't going to win anything of relevance with that. Marquette's FG% and rebounding defense is currently the opposite of historically good, it's near historically bad. So we have a terrible defense with a ball control QB. Not at all a recipe for success. In fact, the only thing our defense does well is generate turnovers, and Derrick has the lowest Steals % on the team. So what's the point of playing him max minutes. I can guarantee if that is the case we will miss the post season completely yet again, while robbing a young player like Cohen or Jajuan (who are ostensibly the future of the program) of valuable court time. What's. The. Point. Deja vu all over again.
Quote from: MUSF on December 09, 2014, 08:07:41 PM
There is zero chance that Derrick only averages 12 minutes the rest of the season. You might as well wish for DWade to suit up again and play 40 mins a night.
Come on Wade's knees couldn't handle that we'd be better off hoping for Matthews or Butler to suit up.
Quote from: jsglow on December 09, 2014, 04:14:49 PM
Okay, here's a test 03! Explain the concept (utilized and perfected by Al). No help from any of you old guys. Let's see what this 'kid' knows!
This is actually easy for me since it's what we named our podcast after. Al had a scrubs unit of 5 walk-in essentially that were all quick...he'd put them in to "bring chaos to order". Basically run around like a chicken with your head cut off and force the other team to play the same.
I think he really only used it is first year at Marquette.
If there's any good in this transition it's that Cohen gets more minutes and it'll help him develop faster. He's already made some very important 3's. I like his cool nerves. If, by the end of the year he develops into a solid defender and a multi-dimensional offensive player he'll be fun to watch in future.
Quote from: mu03eng on December 10, 2014, 08:41:02 AM
This is actually easy for me since it's what we named our podcast after. Al had a scrubs unit of 5 walk-in essentially that were all quick...he'd put them in to "bring chaos to order". Basically run around like a chicken with your head cut off and force the other team to play the same.
I think he really only used it is first year at Marquette.
Well done. Exactly correct. And I tested you
because that's what you named the podcast. It was employed for short 1-2 minute increments simply to allow the 'real' players some quick rest. I'm just old enough to remember as I found their antics very exciting as a young kid. I can imagine that I asked my dad why they didn't play more and lamenting the fact that the concept went away as he built team depth.
Quote from: jsglow on December 10, 2014, 09:15:18 AM
Well done. Exactly correct. And I tested you because that's what you named the podcast. It was employed for short 1-2 minute increments simply to allow the 'real' players some quick rest. I'm just old enough to remember as I found their antics very exciting as a young kid. I can imagine that I asked my dad why they didn't play more and lamenting the fact that the concept went away as he built team depth.
It's certainly better than naming ourselves Deflections or Paint Touches ;D
Quote from: mu03eng on December 10, 2014, 09:18:13 AM
It's certainly better than naming ourselves Deflections or Paint Touches ;D
Ouch.