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Title: Luke is Eligible
Post by: brewcity77 on December 06, 2014, 04:14:48 PM
We have a physical presence. We have a player taller than 6'7" able to play. I don't expect him to be a savior, but at least we aren't a team of midgets anymore  8-)
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: tower912 on December 06, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
Was amused at how 'buzz-ish' wojo sounded on his radio show saying that MU is in the 330's sizewise without Luke.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 06, 2014, 04:18:13 PM
Going to be fun.

Only downside is if things don't really improve, we lose the optimism of gaining a player lol
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
The stupid in me wishes he would just sit the rest of the year and get the extra year of eligibility when we could be a very good team instead of using this half year of eligibility when chances are we aren't a tourney team with or without him.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 06, 2014, 04:43:37 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
The stupid in me wishes he would just sit the rest of the year and get the extra year of eligibility when we could be a very good team instead of using this half year of eligibility when chances are we aren't a tourney team with or without him.

Don't think it matters. He only has 2.5 years of eligibility.

So if he sits out second half of this year...he what plays two years then has to quit in December of the 3rd year?

Pretty sure he has 2 years left after this year regardless what happens.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: Nukem2 on December 06, 2014, 04:43:47 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
The stupid in me wishes he would just sit the rest of the year and get the extra year of eligibility when we could be a very good team instead of using this half year of eligibility when chances are we aren't a tourney team with or without him.
Part of me wishes that as well, but it's awfully hard to keep a young guy off the floor that long (22 months)...
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 06, 2014, 04:44:52 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
The stupid in me wishes he would just sit the rest of the year and get the extra year of eligibility when we could be a very good team instead of using this half year of eligibility when chances are we aren't a tourney team with or without him.

True.  I know it isn't much but maybe without him we lose our first NIT game.  With him, maybe we make a little run in the NIT which gives the returning players a little taste of tourney fever.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: Nukem2 on December 06, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on December 06, 2014, 04:43:37 PM
Don't think it matters. He only has 2.5 years of eligibility.

So if he sits out second half of this year...he what plays two years then has to quit in December of the 3rd year?

Pretty sure he has 2 years left after this year regardless what happens.
Nope.  He would have 3 years if he were to sit out the second semester.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 06, 2014, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 06, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Nope.  He would have 3 years if he were to sit out the second semester.

Well that is stupid how it works. Maybe he should sit lol
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on December 06, 2014, 04:43:47 PM
Part of me wishes that as well, but it's awfully hard to keep a young guy off the floor that long (22 months)...

I agree, there's no way Luke wants anything but to be out on the floor with these guys as soon as possible and he deserves to be, but the selfish fan in me wishes he would just wait it out for my own pleasure.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: tower912 on December 06, 2014, 04:57:17 PM
I'm excited.   I was one of those who did not think this team would be .500.   If Luke can give MU a consistent 10/7 +interior presence, I will be proven wrong.   And that is OK. 
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: 79Warrior on December 06, 2014, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 04:41:25 PM
The stupid in me wishes he would just sit the rest of the year and get the extra year of eligibility when we could be a very good team instead of using this half year of eligibility when chances are we aren't a tourney team with or without him.

Not sure it works that way. I thought Dodds said he only has 2.5 left. Maybe i read it wrong.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 06, 2014, 05:00:52 PM
I hope he is a savior but wait and see, he might not be that good and it will be Derrick's fault - just like he's messed up JJJ and JD.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on December 06, 2014, 05:00:23 PM
Not sure it works that way. I thought Dodds said he only has 2.5 left. Maybe i read it wrong.

2.5 years of eligibility right now, yes.  But if he sat out the rest of this year he would have 3 years of eligibility remaining.  Meaning we would have him around for 1 entire extra season.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: GGGG on December 06, 2014, 05:07:55 PM
I think he needs to be out there now.  We are only 8 games into the season.  Plenty of time for him to make a significant impact on the season and a potential post season run.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: brewcity77 on December 06, 2014, 05:28:31 PM
Eligibility is a five year clock. For Luke, it started when he got to Indiana. If he sits out the clock still ends in 2-1/2 years. He wouldn't gain a sixth year for sitting out when he's healthy. If he got injured, it could help him get a sixth year on appeal, but out certainly wouldn't be automatic.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: wadesworld on December 06, 2014, 05:32:00 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 06, 2014, 05:28:31 PM
Eligibility is a five year clock. For Luke, it started when he got to Indiana. If he sits out the clock still ends in 2-1/2 years. He wouldn't gain a sixth year for sitting out when he's healthy. If he got injured, it could help him get a sixth year on appeal, but out certainly wouldn't be automatic.

Right.  But mid season you essentially lose a year of eligibility that you don't lose when you transfer at the end of the school year...unless you sit a year and a half.

So for Luke, he played 1/2 of his freshman year, sat half of his freshman year, will sit half of his sophomore year, play half of his sophomore year, and then play his junior and senior years and have no more eligibility left.  Played 3 years in a 4 year window and used all of his eligibility.  But if he sat the rest of this year he would have played half of his freshman year, sat half of his freshman year, sat all of his sophomore year, and played his junior, senior, and 5th year.  So played 3.5 years in a 5 year window.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on December 06, 2014, 05:33:56 PM
This gives me headaches!!!
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: brewcity77 on December 06, 2014, 05:36:46 PM
Good point, Wades. You got me on that, forgot Luke was the same class as Deonte and Duane.
Title: Re: Luke is Eligible
Post by: Jay Bee on December 06, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 06, 2014, 05:28:31 PM
Eligibility is a five year clock. For Luke, it started when he got to Indiana. If he sits out the clock still ends in 2-1/2 years. He wouldn't gain a sixth year for sitting out when he's healthy. If he got injured, it could help him get a sixth year on appeal, but out certainly wouldn't be automatic.

Nope. He has 3.5 years left on his clock and 3 years competition eligibility. That is, as fibre end of the fall semester he has 3.5 years to play in 3 different seasons.
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