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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Galway Eagle on December 04, 2014, 09:59:39 AM

Title: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 04, 2014, 09:59:39 AM
Here are some numbers regarding the UW/MU series.



Overall Series:   UW 65  MU 55

                               
                               
Notable Tenures:            UW        MU
Ryan's Tenure                  7              6
Crean's Tenure                6              3
William's Tenure              3              3
WoJo                                    0              0

                               
Notable milestones:      UW        MU
Since Al Retire                  22           15
Al's Tenure                        4              20
Bradley Center                 7              7
Kohl Center                       6              2



By Decade           UW        MU
1910's                    1              0
1920's                    4              1
1930's                   11           10
1940's                   16           4
1950's                   4              4
1960's                   7              7
1970's                   2              14
1980's                   5              5
1990's                   7              4
2000's                   6              4
2010's                   2              2
2020's                   0              0
                               
Since ...                 UW        MU
Since 2010             2              2
Since 2000             8              6
Since 1990           15           10
Since 1980           20           15
Since 1970           22           29
Since 1960           29           36
Since 1950           33           40
Since 1940           49           44
Since 1930           60           54
Since 1920           64           55
Since 1910           65           55
                               

What I take away is that since MU basketball was coached by a UW alum in the 30s and 40s and MU BBall didn't start to take form till 1955 I think the 40s and 30s should get thrown out.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on December 04, 2014, 10:07:57 AM
What I take away is that MU needs to do a better job of beating UW.  Playing them even is not good enough.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: esotericmindguy on December 04, 2014, 10:08:10 AM
That's great, thanks for sharing. Now I know why my dad, a UW alum, hated Al so much. 20-4! Wow.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on December 04, 2014, 10:10:10 AM
Its all right. Itll be all tied up once Wojo goes 10-0 over the next 10 years.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 04, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
Does basketball pre1950 really count? Add far as I'm concerned, we own the series with the vadgers.

This year is probably a loss but we should dominate them in Madison the following year
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Galway Eagle on December 04, 2014, 10:29:32 AM
I'd like to compare it just on years where we both make the post season or ncaa tournament. Obviously a year like this we expect a loss so it's not nearly as fun of a game as like 11-12 or 08-09 or 12-13 when we're both good.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: willie warrior on December 04, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on December 04, 2014, 10:08:10 AM
That's great, thanks for sharing. Now I know why my dad, a UW alum, hated Al so much. 20-4! Wow.
Al was the man, and of course deserved the disdain from UW fans. Sure hope the Wojo regime can find ways to improve our overall win % against Bucky.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Coleman on December 04, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 04, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
Does basketball pre1950 really count? Add far as I'm concerned, we own the series with the vadgers.

This year is probably a loss but we should dominate them in Madison the following year

The Badgers would say so, as they have a 1941 NCAA Tournament "Championship," which was its 3rd year with an 8 team field.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 04, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 04, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
The Badgers would say so, as they have a 1941 NCAA Tournament "Championship," which was its 3rd year with an 8 team field.

And every true athlete was off to war.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: chapman on December 04, 2014, 07:22:30 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 04, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
Does basketball pre1950 really count?

How dare you belittle Bo Ryan's accomplishments!
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Litehouse on December 05, 2014, 10:53:58 AM
Anyone have the current point spread on the game?
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2014, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Bleuteaux on December 04, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
The Badgers would say so, as they have a 1941 NCAA Tournament "Championship," which was its 3rd year with an 8 team field.

It counts.  I don't need anyone 30 years from now belittling Marquette's championship.


Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 04, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
And every true athlete was off to war.

Uhhh....  You may want to brush up on your timelines.  While a limited draft was in place at the time, this was pre-Pearl Harbor.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: mikekinsellaMVP on December 05, 2014, 11:53:58 AM
Quote from: Litehouse on December 05, 2014, 10:53:58 AM
Anyone have the current point spread on the game?

Haven't found one yet, but did find some interesting numbers comparison.  Per game, Bucky is beating us in points scored, points allowed, FG%, FT%, 3-pointers made, and defensive rebounds.  We hold the edge in steals and, oddly enough, offensive rebounds.  Go figure.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Coleman on December 05, 2014, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 05, 2014, 11:37:41 AM
It counts.  I don't need anyone 30 years from now belittling Marquette's championship.


Wojo will have delivered several more by then, so it won't matter ;-)
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 05, 2014, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on December 05, 2014, 11:37:41 AM
It counts.  I don't need anyone 30 years from now belittling Marquette's championship.


Uhhh....  You may want to brush up on your timelines.  While a limited draft was in place at the time, this was pre-Pearl Harbor.

Guess you are saying the number of 18 to 22 years by March 1941 in the military had not grown by leaps and bounds? Though I will give you that university enrollment was about even from 1936-1940.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: wadesworld on December 05, 2014, 12:08:38 PM
Quote from: chapman on December 04, 2014, 07:22:30 PM
How dare you belittle Bo Ryan's accomplishments!

Well played.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: GGGG on December 05, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 05, 2014, 12:07:41 PM
Guess you are saying the number of 18 to 22 years by March 1941 in the military had not grown by leaps and bounds? Though I will give you that university enrollment was about even from 1936-1940.


I am not a military historian, but the vast majority of men who went "off to war" did so after Pearl Harbor in December 1941.

Interestingly the NCAA tournament was still held every year during the war.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Litehouse on December 05, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Looks like Bucky is a 10 point favorite from what I could find.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: Earl Tatum on December 06, 2014, 10:03:44 PM
Wonder what those Madison smart a--es are saying about tonights Big Ten Championship Football Game.
Embarrassing. I would think twice about saying ON WISCONSIN.
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: AZMarqfan on December 06, 2014, 10:20:56 PM
Litehouse, the line opened at around 9, but by game time it was Wisc -12.5.  So MU covered!
Title: Re: MU vs UW by the numbers (from UW board)
Post by: 77ncaachamps on December 07, 2014, 08:17:26 PM
The fact that it's split since Crean makes this rivalry intense.

No way should the state flagship school get evened by a small Jesuit school!
(says a Badgerat fan)
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