A black, "crack baby," adopted by two gay, white men. He's now the senior captain of the Army basketball team.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/11/11/max-lenox-army-basketball
Great article. Thanks for sharing
Great story. Really underscores the capricious nature of fate. And certainly devastates a number of absurd conventions on race, gender, and sexuality.
Key sentence
"But she gave this baby a chance -- albeit slim -- when she put him up for adoption the day after his birth"
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 11, 2014, 11:33:10 PM
Key sentence
"But she gave this baby a chance -- albeit slim -- when she put him up for adoption the day after his birth"
How many people need to tell you you suck for hijacking making things about politics before you realize it?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 12, 2014, 08:12:05 AM
How many people need to tell you you suck for hijacking making things about politics before you realize it?
How is what he posted political?
Saying that a kid has a better chance if he is raised by someone other than his crack addict mom is some sort of political statement?
Quote from: warriorchick on November 12, 2014, 08:17:47 AM
How is what he posted political?
Saying that a kid has a better chance if he is raised by someone other than his crack addict mom is some sort of political statement?
The implication of at least given a chance was a shot at the pro choice movement. That screams chicos.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 12, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
The implication of at least given a chance was a shot at the pro choice movement. That screams chicos.
I think you are just looking for a fight.
Quote from: warriorchick on November 12, 2014, 08:28:19 AM
I think you are just looking for a fight.
As much as thats generally true i disagree.
Superbar.
No one was debating her right to choose.
Her choice to continue the pregnancy allowed for this young man to positively impact the lives of his adopted family, teammates, and friends. She should be applauded for that, as should the couple that took him in.
End of story.
Quote from: warriorchick on November 12, 2014, 08:17:47 AM
How is what he posted political?
Saying that a kid has a better chance if he is raised by someone other than his crack addict mom is some sort of political statement?
I'd write that you're not that naive but I'm not sure you aren't.
Otherwise, it was a very nice story.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 12, 2014, 08:12:05 AM
How many people need to tell you you suck for hijacking making things about politics before you realize it?
Just wow
Now quoting a sentence in a story published in a thread is off limits, despite that sentence being the most important in the entire story as the story does not exist without it.
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 12, 2014, 08:34:17 AM
No one was debating her right to choose.
Her choice to continue the pregnancy allowed for this young man to positively impact the lives of his adopted family, teammates, and friends. She should be applauded for that, as should the couple that took him in.
End of story.
Someone gets it....thank you.
Quote from: warriorchick on November 12, 2014, 08:28:19 AM
I think you are just looking for a fight.
Agreed. What Chicos said had nothing to do with politics.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on November 12, 2014, 09:30:35 AM
Agreed. What Chicos said had nothing to do with politics.
Agreed.
To be fair, Chicos does post a decent amount touching political items.
However, it seems like several people really try to reach to find something wrong with every one of his posts, whether there is something in there or not.
This is a great story.
Quote from: WarriorInNYC on November 12, 2014, 10:05:07 AM
Agreed.
To be fair, Chicos does post a decent amount touching political items.
However, it seems like several people really try to reach to find something wrong with every one of his posts, whether there is something in there or not.
This is a great story.
Without question, Chicos' posts are met with intense scrutiny. On the other hand, as a poster, Chicos seems to be unique in this regard. IMHO, if Chicos could refrain from defending himself long enough to reflect on why that is, the problem would resolve itself.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 11, 2014, 11:33:10 PM
Key sentence
"But she gave this baby a chance -- albeit slim -- when she put him up for adoption the day after his birth"
Like in any odds defying happy ending story there are no shortage of twists and turns that make it possible. Her choice to have the baby and give it up were essential, but the real heroes here are the young man and his adoptive parents.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 12, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
The implication of at least given a chance was a shot at the pro choice movement. That screams chicos.
I didn't interpret his comment that way in the least. I interpreted it that his life would have very likely been much worse had she decided not to put him up for adoption.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 12, 2014, 10:58:43 AM
Like in any odds defying happy ending story there are no shortage of twists and turns that make it possible. Her choice to have the baby and give it up were essential, but the real heroes here are the young man and his adoptive parents.
Agree...I commend and applaud all involved. My point was for the latter heroes to exist, a decision to keep the child and give him up for adoption was the key. Good for her, she was able to make this decision that has benefited so many. Nice story.
Quote from: LittleDillard on November 12, 2014, 10:12:16 AM
Without question, Chicos' posts are met with intense scrutiny. On the other hand, as a poster, Chicos seems to be unique in this regard. IMHO, if Chicos could refrain from defending himself long enough to reflect on why that is, the problem would resolve itself.
Seems it takes at least two to tango, but I'm trying to do my part.
Some things in there that would make for an interesting book. I am talking about the AAU machinations. Also interesting to learn that some of the basketball factory prep school military academies do build character and help young men who may not be ready, to grow up and mature. Any story that shows examples of young people who are going to be positive influences going forward is a good thing.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 12, 2014, 09:26:56 AM
Just wow
Now quoting a sentence in a story published in a thread is off limits, despite that sentence being the most important in the entire story as the story does not exist without it.
The story also doesn't exist if his crackhead mom doesn't hook-up with some random dude likely in exchange for drugs or money... clearly a great and powerful choice she made.
Oh, and her choice to continue her first pregnancy ultimately resulted in her getting burned alive in her own home. Was that a good choice?
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 12, 2014, 08:12:05 AM
How many people need to tell you you suck for hijacking making things about politics before you realize it?
You turned the discussion about a powerful story into a rant that exists in your head. chill out and think before you type.
Better yet , keep your delusions to yourself
Quote from: elephantraker on November 12, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
You turned the discussion about a powerful story into a rant that exists in your head. chill out and think before you type.
Better yet , keep your delusions to yourself
back off. After the personal messages that I've received from Chicos I'm always going to assume his holier than thou attitude trying to politicize everything and that he's trying to make certain people who aren't living up to his perfect standard feel like sh!t. Maybe you shouldn't step in without knowing everything.
Quote from: elephantraker on November 12, 2014, 11:14:33 PM
You turned the discussion about a powerful story into a rant that exists in your head. chill out and think before you type.
Better yet , keep your delusions to yourself
I hate that too.
But you can always
<----- IGNORE
him/her.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 12, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
back off. After the personal messages that I've received from Chicos I'm always going to assume his holier than thou attitude trying to politicize everything and that he's trying to make certain people who aren't living up to his perfect standard feel like sh!t. Maybe you shouldn't step in without knowing everything.
We've had some fun
two way PM's where we have acknowledged each other's positions on things, even if we disagree. When you assume something.....well....you know the saying.
Quote from: MUSF on November 12, 2014, 09:37:10 PM
The story also doesn't exist if his crackhead mom doesn't hook-up with some random dude likely in exchange for drugs or money... clearly a great and powerful choice she made.
Oh, and her choice to continue her first pregnancy ultimately resulted in her getting burned alive in her own home. Was that a good choice?
As stated, she has made some poor choices and there are no guarantees in life. People can make great choices and be hurt, poor choices and be lucky. In the end, seems the odds eventually catch up, but who knows. Seems after a life of many poor choices, she made one for whatever reason that turned out positive for a number of people. Good for her. It seems to me many of her other choices and the impacts of them involved other adults who also made choices. In this particular example, she made a choice for someone that couldn't. It was all on her. I'm glad she did.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2014, 12:49:03 AM
We've had some fun two way PM's where we have acknowledged each other's positions on things, even if we disagree. When you assume something.....well....you know the saying.
Nm
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 12, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
back off. After the personal messages that I've received from Chicos I'm always going to assume his holier than thou attitude trying to politicize everything and that he's trying to make certain people who aren't living up to his perfect standard feel like sh!t. Maybe you shouldn't step in without knowing everything.
So after you call Chicos out in this thread, you get all pissy when someone does it to you?
Can't we all just get along?
Wow I was in a bad mood yesterday. Great story, very touching. My bad for venting on here.
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on November 12, 2014, 11:34:43 PM
I hate that too.
But you can always
<----- IGNORE
him/her.
#donedeal
I usually don't get so feisty but I was test driving a new bottle of port and kept it out of the garage longer than intended. That said I usually enjoy the discourse here but it seems some think they can win their stripes by attacking CBB. Disagreements can be enlightening and entertaining but ad hominem attacks are distasteful here and in politics.
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on November 13, 2014, 07:13:55 AM
Wow I was in a bad mood yesterday. Great story, very touching. My bad for venting on here.
We've all had days like that. ;D