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Title: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: MUDPT on November 03, 2014, 10:34:03 AM
In case you have missed it, Dan Hanner and Luke Winn have done some awesome stuff recently previewing the season.  Hanner is rolling out his rankings of all 351 teams. Marquette comes in at #67, 6th in the Big East.  If you haven't been following him, he is a big believer in recruiting rankings.  If you notice, only NC State has more Top 100 recruits than MU in the 51-75 range. 

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/10/30/college-basketball-preview-teams-ranked
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: MU82 on November 03, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
Cool.

With all of that statistical analysis, we don't even have to play the season.

What a relief!
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 03, 2014, 11:23:20 AM
Quote from: MUDPT on November 03, 2014, 10:34:03 AM
In case you have missed it, Dan Hanner and Luke Winn have done some awesome stuff recently previewing the season.  Hanner is rolling out his rankings of all 351 teams. Marquette comes in at #67, 6th in the Big East.  If you haven't been following him, he is a big believer in recruiting rankings.  If you notice, only NC State has more Top 100 recruits than MU in the 51-75 range. 

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/10/30/college-basketball-preview-teams-ranked

Ouch.  Marquette: doing less with more? 

Want to know who's overrated?  See who Marquette's recruiting.
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: Henry Sugar on November 03, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: MU82 on November 03, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
Cool.

With all of that statistical analysis, we don't even have to play the season.

What a relief!

No one is saying stats should replace actual game play. Literally no one.

Hanner seems to be more optimistic about MU than many others.
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 03, 2014, 12:41:55 PM
Interesting Prov and SJU are both very close to MU in the rankings. Very doable to make fourth based on these predictions.
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: dgies9156 on November 03, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
Quote from: MUDPT on November 03, 2014, 10:34:03 AM
In case you have missed it, Dan Hanner and Luke Winn have done some awesome stuff recently previewing the season.  Hanner is rolling out his rankings of all 351 teams. Marquette comes in at #67, 6th in the Big East.  If you haven't been following him, he is a big believer in recruiting rankings.  If you notice, only NC State has more Top 100 recruits than MU in the 51-75 range. 

http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/10/30/college-basketball-preview-teams-ranked

This is probably the most objective review of Marquette I've seen to date. We don't know completely what we have. At 67, we're not that far away from a "9" to "12" seed in the NCAA tournament. We're also not that far away from staying home again. If our talent gels and we box out effectively on rebounds, we'll be a tournament tam. If we don't, well, then it will be another long year.
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: MU82 on November 03, 2014, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: Henry Sugar on November 03, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
No one is saying stats should replace actual game play. Literally no one.

Hanner seems to be more optimistic about MU than many others.

I was kidding, Hank. Didn't think teal was necessary but obviously it was.
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: MUfan12 on November 03, 2014, 02:51:06 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on November 03, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
This is probably the most objective review of Marquette I've seen to date. We don't know completely what we have. At 67, we're not that far away from a "9" to "12" seed in the NCAA tournament. We're also not that far away from staying home again. If our talent gels and we box out effectively on rebounds, we'll be a tournament tam. If we don't, well, then it will be another long year.

Yep. If another player can become a decent scoring option, they'll have a chance at being pretty good. I think they'll be far better defensively.
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: Dawson Rental on November 04, 2014, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on November 03, 2014, 02:51:06 PM
Yep. If another player can become a decent scoring option, they'll have a chance at being pretty good. I think they'll be far better defensively.

In particular, I think that Steve with his added bulk will be a far more effective post defender than most people realize.  I rather have bulk with less than ideal height, than height with less than ideal bulk defending the post.
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: Galway Eagle on November 04, 2014, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: LittleDillard on November 04, 2014, 01:01:18 PM
In particular, I think that Steve with his added bulk will be a far more effective post defender than most people realize.  I rather have bulk with less than ideal height, than height with less than ideal bulk defending the post.

Like whether to play mbao or Lazar
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: tower912 on November 04, 2014, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: LittleDillard on November 04, 2014, 01:01:18 PM
In particular, I think that Steve with his added bulk will be a far more effective post defender than most people realize.  I rather have bulk with less than ideal height, than height with less than ideal bulk defending the post.

Steve will be fine.   But the problem is that he will pick up fouls and cannot play 40 minutes a night.   What happens then?      Until Luke is eligible.   
Title: Re: Hanner Ranking All 351 Teams
Post by: Nukem2 on November 04, 2014, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 04, 2014, 04:46:09 PM
Steve will be fine.   But the problem is that he will pick up fouls and cannot play 40 minutes a night.   What happens then?      Until Luke is eligible.   
Yep.  The alternative is Juan or to go to a 5 man perimeter lineup.
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