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Title: Levin
Post by: Wojo Era on October 08, 2014, 12:15:43 PM

Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello     ·  4m 4 minutes ago   

Gabe Levin is leaving Marquette. He had transferred from Loyola Marymount in the spring, was going to redshirt this season

Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Pakuni on October 08, 2014, 12:17:12 PM
Hopefully it's because he sees a certain 2015 recruit blocking his chance at PT.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: MileHigh on October 08, 2014, 12:18:26 PM
Buzz Cut

But I am interested to hear more...
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Jay Bee on October 08, 2014, 12:19:20 PM
Best of luck to Gabe. I think finding him many minutes would have been difficult.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: River rat on October 08, 2014, 12:19:44 PM
well that stinks , by all accounts he was pretty good.  However, leaving a week into practice usually means he has sized up his playing time competiton and didnt like his prospects.
Does open a scholarship hopefully, wojo has someone hes ready to pull the trigger on.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on October 08, 2014, 12:25:33 PM
Roseboro part deux?

Hopefully he knows something about Ellenson that we don't
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 08, 2014, 12:26:03 PM
Was so excited to wear my HS stuff to cheer him on.  But that's fine wish him luck and I'll cheer for him wherever he goes.  Anyways hoping that this is clearing the way for Henry to know he's the main option at PF.  
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: wadesworld on October 08, 2014, 12:29:54 PM
Well that sucks.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: tower912 on October 08, 2014, 12:31:38 PM
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/100814aaa.html

Another schollie opens up.    Good to see that Wojo is keeping up the MU tradition established by Crean and Buzz. 
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 08, 2014, 12:32:24 PM
Wojo heave ho?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: The Lens on October 08, 2014, 12:34:22 PM
Wojo heave ho?

We have a winner!
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 08, 2014, 12:34:34 PM
well that stinks , by all accounts he was pretty good.  However, leaving a week into practice usually means he has sized up his playing time competiton and didnt like his prospects.
Does open a scholarship hopefully, wojo has someone hes ready to pull the trigger on.

Sounds like the case. Opens up another schollie for 2015 then...

Any guys we are in on other than Ellenson?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: 🏀 on October 08, 2014, 12:34:44 PM
Wojo waxed
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 08, 2014, 12:38:03 PM
Sounds like the case. Opens up another schollie for 2015 then...

Any guys we are in on other than Ellenson?

Stone!
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 08, 2014, 12:41:01 PM
We have a winner!

I think he was told to WoGo.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: kryza on October 08, 2014, 12:43:08 PM
This is Levin's third (4th if you include prep school) transfer. St. Thomas More Prep -> Hofstra -> Loyola Marymount -> Marquette -> ?

As he said when he left Loyola, "To be honest I've been through this before," Levin said. "I've learned it's a gut feeling."
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: LloydMooresLegs on October 08, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
huh
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: CAGASS24 on October 08, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
Darn -
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2014, 12:44:32 PM
Bizarre.  In the end it is just the loss of a practice body for one year.  
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TedBaxter on October 08, 2014, 12:44:53 PM
We have a winner!

No.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: pacearrow02 on October 08, 2014, 12:47:20 PM
Wojo must have cooled on him, if we wanted him he'd still be on the team.  Also heard his parents are really overwhelming!!  

Joking of course, trying to impersonate our badger friends.  This does suck, thought he would have been a solid contributor in a couple years.  Oh well, wish him the best!!
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: pacearrow02 on October 08, 2014, 12:48:43 PM
Bizarre.  In the end it is just the loss of a practice body for one year.  

Seriously!! Coaches better stay loose, might need them to jump in in some drills just to get 10 guys.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on October 08, 2014, 12:49:12 PM
And the fun begins......................
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 08, 2014, 01:03:37 PM
Pole-axed, lied to, recruited over. Just win, baby. Squirmy. Did I leave anything out?

If this means we're getting Henry I couldn't be happier!
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 01:04:06 PM
Odd. Not entirely surprised though. Saw him on campus a total of 1 time and he looked miserable.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Groin_pull on October 08, 2014, 01:05:43 PM
And the beat goes on....
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: keefe on October 08, 2014, 01:13:00 PM
Wojo heave ho?

Well done, Doc
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 08, 2014, 01:19:35 PM
Wojo outskie.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on October 08, 2014, 01:36:27 PM
That's too bad.  There's always one, however, that seems to leave before the seasons starts.  Wish him well on his future. 

I wouldn't my hopes up (yet) with regards to writing on the wall for Ellenson.  It was most definitely a situation where he probably saw who would be ahead of him with regards to playing time, and knew he wasn't getting the opportunity he wanted. 
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: milwaukee ex-pat on October 08, 2014, 01:51:58 PM
Hope this signals Taylor looking great.  With Heldt and Fischer no need for Taylor to play the 5.  If he saw Taylor looking like a bonafide starter someone at the 4 was going to be unhappy...
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 01:55:16 PM
Hope this signals Taylor looking great.  With Heldt and Fischer no need for Taylor to play the 5.  If he saw Taylor looking like a bonafide starter someone at the 4 was going to be unhappy...

Free Teve!
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on October 08, 2014, 01:58:03 PM
Very strange. But as others have said, he must not have liked his prospects of getting much PT next year.

Someone on here said he was one of the better players on the team a few short weeks ago.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 02:00:58 PM
Very strange. But as others have said, he must not have liked his prospects of getting much PT next year.

Someone on here said he was one of the better players on the team a few short weeks ago.

Heard that too. Maybe he didn't like the cold weather?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 08, 2014, 02:03:20 PM
Hope this signals Taylor looking great.  With Heldt and Fischer no need for Taylor to play the 5.  If he saw Taylor looking like a bonafide starter someone at the 4 was going to be unhappy...

Well, McKay left in part because he couldn't beat out Taylor. Hope this works out better.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2014, 02:03:55 PM
Well that's unfortunate. Everything I had heard indicated that he was going to be pretty good.

I wouldn't think this indicates anything about Henry. The possibility of Henry may have been a factor, but I doubt Gabe has anymore knowledge than we do about the possibility of an Ellenson commit.

Best of luck wherever he goes. Hope he finds a place that feels like home.

On the bright side, this opens up another schollie. Maybe a Cameron Beidschied? Or maybe we can bring in more than one kid in 2016. Wojo is in on some good ones.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: MUfan12 on October 08, 2014, 02:15:58 PM
On the bright side, this opens up another schollie. Maybe a Cameron Beidschied? Or maybe we can bring in more than one kid in 2016. Wojo is in on some good ones.

Would rather him go for a 2016 kid. No thanks on Beidschied. Strikes me as kind of a punk, and his dad is a bit much.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: mu-rara on October 08, 2014, 02:17:35 PM
Don't you think he would have evaluated these possibilities before coming.  For God's sake he committed just a couple of months ago.  Not that much has changed.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on October 08, 2014, 02:22:22 PM
It just occurred to me that Steve Taylor was the result of not one, but two players leaving the program because they couldn't overtake him for playing time (McKay last year, Levin this year).

I'm not even mad... that's just impressive.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Freeport Warrior on October 08, 2014, 02:24:15 PM
Well, McKay left in part because
he thought Taylor had an unfair advantage with Buzz and because he didn't care for Buzz.
McKay is going to end up being an all-Big 12 player next year IMO. He can't play until second semester like Fischer, but everything I am hearing is that he is a flat out beast. I saw it for my own eyes a few months after he transferred. One former player recently told me that he thinks McKay will eventually be a pro. It wouldn't surprise me. He could have really helped us this year.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Groin_pull on October 08, 2014, 02:37:14 PM
he thought Taylor had an unfair advantage with Buzz and because he didn't care for Buzz.
McKay is going to end up being an all-Big 12 player next year IMO. He can't play until second semester like Fischer, but everything I am hearing is that he is a flat out beast. I saw it for my own eyes a few months after he transferred. One former player recently told me that he thinks McKay will eventually be a pro. It wouldn't surprise me. He could have really helped us this year.

So...he chose to commit to play for a coach he didn't like?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Nukem2 on October 08, 2014, 02:37:53 PM
he thought Taylor had an unfair advantage with Buzz and because he didn't care for Buzz.
McKay is going to end up being an all-Big 12 player next year IMO. He can't play until second semester like Fischer, but everything I am hearing is that he is a flat out beast. I saw it for my own eyes a few months after he transferred. One former player recently told me that he thinks McKay will eventually be a pro. It wouldn't surprise me. He could have really helped us this year.
Not to mention last year.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 02:38:47 PM
At least McKay made it to madness.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 08, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
It just occurred to me that Steve Taylor was the result of not one, but two players leaving the program because they couldn't overtake him for playing time (McKay last year, Levin this year).

I'm not even mad... that's just impressive.

and we are still running the #freestevetaylor campaign despite this.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: mileskishnish72 on October 08, 2014, 02:42:38 PM
Is this because he found out Levin & Schwartz couldn't happen?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
and we are still running the #freestevetaylor campaign despite this.

*Teve
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: mug644 on October 08, 2014, 02:45:54 PM
At least McKay made it to madness.

Maybe Levin saw that Wally had a better shot at winning the dunk contest?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Jay Bee on October 08, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
So...he chose to commit to play for a coach he didn't like?

Many people marry a person they eventually do not like. As chicos knows, a figure closer to 50% than 30% of US marriages end in divorce.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: MU82 on October 08, 2014, 02:50:37 PM
I guess for Gabe, Shalom literally meant hello AND goodbye!

Later, dude. Go enjoy another low-major program where you can actually play. We'll get somebody better.

This will be my last comment about this young fella. I care only about the players who are here now and will be arriving soon.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: jakeec on October 08, 2014, 03:05:06 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Golden Avalanche on October 08, 2014, 03:07:59 PM
I was fine with booting Mayo, even happy as it showed Wojo will only give so much before you're gone. With Levin, this doesn't smell right. Mistake was made, now we build the narrative of whose mistake it was. 
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ttheisen on October 08, 2014, 03:20:38 PM
Odd. Not entirely surprised though. Saw him on campus a total of 1 time and he looked miserable.

That seems like a reasonable sample size.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 08, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
That seems like a reasonable sample size.

(http://myreactiongifs.com/gifs/60percentofthetimeitworkseverytime.gif)
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 03:25:59 PM
That seems like a reasonable sample size.

My point was more of I never saw him on campus in comparison to the rest of the team. Heck, ive seen Diener around more.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Skatastrophy on October 08, 2014, 03:30:11 PM
No Gabe Levin on the poster. This must have been in process for quite some time.

(http://i.imgur.com/xMnZg9B.jpg)
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: BCHoopster on October 08, 2014, 03:30:28 PM
I was fine with booting Mayo, even happy as it showed Wojo will only give so much before you're gone. With Levin, this doesn't smell right. Mistake was made, now we build the narrative of whose mistake it was. 


Lets wait till you here a comment from the coach.  Of course, the real answer will not come out, but no reason to hide what happened.  Watching him last year a few times on TV, not sure
how much he was going to play with Burton at the small forward and others.  Maybe he realized PT time was going to be limited, he was never going to be 2 guard, did not show any outside
shot period, this opens up another scholarship for 2016, if they get Ellenson, I would hold open the one for spring (transfer) or 2 the following year.   I really have never heard of a kid transfer
as much as that kid, he must be a flake.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ttheisen on October 08, 2014, 03:32:35 PM
My point was more of I never saw him on campus in comparison to the rest of the team. Heck, ive seen Diener around more.

Sorry, meant to use teal, I understood your point
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Jay Bee on October 08, 2014, 03:35:59 PM
Reviewed headshots, etc. from a long while back. No Gabe.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: tompopsicle on October 08, 2014, 03:43:12 PM
No Gabe Levin on the poster. This must have been in process for quite some time.

(http://i.imgur.com/xMnZg9B.jpg)

Did JaJuan Johnson change numbers?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Groin_pull on October 08, 2014, 03:44:24 PM
It's odd because Levin wasn't some recruit from a small-time high school who was instantly overmatched. Levin was a productive player at a D1 school.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 03:44:38 PM
Did JaJuan Johnson change numbers?

Yup, is 23 now.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: barfolomew on October 08, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
I was fine with booting Mayo, even happy as it showed Wojo will only give so much before you're gone. With Levin, this doesn't smell right. Mistake was made, now we build the narrative of whose mistake it was. 


And who better to build that narrative than an internet fan board?

I'll kick it off:
I believe he left because he was late to picture day and they wouldn't do any retakes.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: JakeBarnes on October 08, 2014, 04:10:48 PM

And who better to build that narrative than an internet fan board?

I'll kick it off:
I believe he left because he was late to picture day and they wouldn't do any retakes.

In the words of Kris Kross: he missed the bus.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Archies Bat on October 08, 2014, 04:18:04 PM

And who better to build that narrative than an internet fan board?

I'll kick it off:
I believe he left because he was late to picture day and they wouldn't do any retakes.

No walking boots fit him.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2014, 04:21:35 PM
Hope this signals Taylor looking great.  With Heldt and Fischer no need for Taylor to play the 5.  If he saw Taylor looking like a bonafide starter someone at the 4 was going to be unhappy...


Eh...he would have sat behind him for one year with two additional remaining.

Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Slim on October 08, 2014, 04:28:35 PM
When they called his name for photo's, he thought they said Gabe Peters so he didn't get up.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Aughnanure on October 08, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Look at these asshats already taking this and running:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=13234238
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Look at these asshats already taking this and running:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=13234238

Theyre all such jag offs. We have our problems over on this board but we have never started up our own thread regarding one of their players transferring. So happy Northwestern beat them in football this weekend.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2014, 04:39:58 PM
Theyre all such jag offs. We have our problems over on this board but we have never started up our own thread regarding one of their players transferring. So happy Northwestern beat them in football this weekend.


Never.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32253.0
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 04:42:25 PM

Never.

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=32253.0

Over two years ago. Not for every transfer, or any event where Marquette is in the headline. Im not obsessed with their recruits after they drop them from the list like they are for Henry.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on October 08, 2014, 04:50:11 PM
Taylor is looking great...

Gabe was not going to play 3-guard or small fwd so it was 4/5 only for him.
Hard to ask a player to sit out a full year and then not look to play much in next couple of years. Better for player to transfer now and get into a new program asap where playing time will be available.  That was the situation Gabe thought he was coming to here.

WOJO did not tell him to go. It was Gabe's choice and he feels it is the right choice for him, so best of luck to Gabe. Things can change in a few months and they have for MU basketball.

Next year we have at 4/5
STJ - JR PF
Luke F-JR C
4 star Freshman Center
5 star Freshman PF

Gabe would have been 5th man, in a rotation that will more than likely have >95% of the minutes taken by the four above for 1 year for sure and who knows after that. 

PS Are recruiting for 2015 with additional schollie available.  Charging hard now on a top 100 that has been associated with MU and STJ connection.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 05:00:58 PM
Taylor is looking great...

Gabe was not going to play 3-guard or small fwd so it was 4/5 only for him.
Hard to ask a player to sit out a full year and then not look to play much in next couple of years. Better for player to transfer now and get into a new program asap where playing time will be available.  That was the situation Gabe thought he was coming to here.

WOJO did not tell him to go. It was Gabe's choice and he feels it is the right choice for him, so best of luck to Gabe. Things can change in a few months and they have for MU basketball.

Next year we have at 4/5
STJ - JR PF
Luke F-JR C
4 star Freshman Center
5 star Freshman PF

Gabe would have been 5th man, in a rotation that will more than likely have >95% of the minutes taken by the four above for 1 year for sure and who knows after that. 

PS Are recruiting for 2015 with additional schollie available.  Charging hard now on a top 100 that has been associated with MU and STJ connection.

Thanks for the info as always. That last line made me pretty excited. If I've learned anything during Wojo's short tenure here so far it is  to not count him out of anything.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 08, 2014, 05:06:50 PM
Taylor is looking great...

Gabe was not going to play 3-guard or small fwd so it was 4/5 only for him.
Hard to ask a player to sit out a full year and then not look to play much in next couple of years. Better for player to transfer now and get into a new program asap where playing time will be available.  That was the situation Gabe thought he was coming to here.

WOJO did not tell him to go. It was Gabe's choice and he feels it is the right choice for him, so best of luck to Gabe. Things can change in a few months and they have for MU basketball.

Next year we have at 4/5
STJ - JR PF
Luke F-JR C
4 star Freshman Center
5 star Freshman PF

Gabe would have been 5th man, in a rotation that will more than likely have >95% of the minutes taken by the four above for 1 year for sure and who knows after that. 

PS Are recruiting for 2015 with additional schollie available.  Charging hard now on a top 100 that has been associated with MU and STJ connection.

The two Simeon kids are taken so I'm guessing it's a different connection?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on October 08, 2014, 05:10:23 PM
AAU
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: LAZER on October 08, 2014, 05:14:07 PM
AAU


Davon Dillard
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on October 08, 2014, 05:30:24 PM

Next year we have at 4/5
STJ - JR PF
Luke F-JR C
4 star Freshman Center
5 star Freshman PF


  Next year we have?  4 star center is Matt Heldt.  5 star PF?  I see what you did there.  Thanks Big Daddy.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: muwarrior69 on October 08, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Theyre all such jag offs. We have our problems over on this board but we have never started up our own thread regarding one of their players transferring. So happy Northwestern beat them in football this weekend.

Lighten up. It's not like Bo never stuck it to a player, and I don't think Wojo did that to Levin. Have to admit the phrase Wojacked was clever and pretty funny.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: LAMUfan on October 08, 2014, 05:37:17 PM
Big daddy is the best
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 08, 2014, 05:40:32 PM
Wojo outskie.

That gets my vote.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: tower912 on October 08, 2014, 05:43:00 PM
Thanks, Big Daddy.  One correction, though.   Next year STjr will be a senior PF.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 08, 2014, 05:43:18 PM
Hope this signals Taylor looking great.  With Heldt and Fischer no need for Taylor to play the 5.  If he saw Taylor looking like a bonafide starter someone at the 4 was going to be unhappy...

Taylor?  Levin wants to play guard.  The opportunity to play there was part of his criteria for choosing where to go.  Cheatham probably had more to do with this than any other recruit.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Tums Festival on October 08, 2014, 05:48:15 PM
Taylor is looking great...

Gabe was not going to play 3-guard or small fwd so it was 4/5 only for him.
Hard to ask a player to sit out a full year and then not look to play much in next couple of years. Better for player to transfer now and get into a new program asap where playing time will be available.  That was the situation Gabe thought he was coming to here.

WOJO did not tell him to go. It was Gabe's choice and he feels it is the right choice for him, so best of luck to Gabe. Things can change in a few months and they have for MU basketball.

Next year we have at 4/5
STJ - JR PF
Luke F-JR C
4 star Freshman Center
5 star Freshman PF

Gabe would have been 5th man, in a rotation that will more than likely have >95% of the minutes taken by the four above for 1 year for sure and who knows after that. 

PS Are recruiting for 2015 with additional schollie available.  Charging hard now on a top 100 that has been associated with MU and STJ connection.

Thanks, this is good info. I just wish these kids wouldn't give up so easily. You never know what can happen to the players in front of you. Maybe it's best they leave if they are going to give up so easily instead of trying to see it through.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Dawson Rental on October 08, 2014, 05:49:45 PM
No Gabe Levin on the poster. This must have been in process for quite some time.

(http://i.imgur.com/xMnZg9B.jpg)

I love that smirk that JJJ has.  I can't wait to see it during a game.  (No, I am not being sarcastic.)
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: esotericmindguy on October 08, 2014, 05:50:02 PM
He's either an idiot or there's more to the story. He was at Marquette for about 2 months and now has to sit out another full year somewhere else. My guess is he was caught doing something inappropriate or wasn't going to class.  

Also, why do you go to badger boards if you know it'll irritate you?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: MuMark on October 08, 2014, 05:57:15 PM
"My guess is he was caught doing something inappropriate or wasn't going to class."

When you have no clue just speculate that it is probably the worst possible situation.......well done.... ::)

How about just wish the kid well and move on.....
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: tower912 on October 08, 2014, 05:59:28 PM
IMO, Big Daddy ended the speculation.   Best of luck, young Mr. Levin, in your future endeavors. 
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2014, 06:03:55 PM
He's either an idiot or there's more to the story. He was at Marquette for about 2 months and now has to sit out another full year somewhere else. My guess is he was caught doing something inappropriate or wasn't going to class.  

Also, why do you go to badger boards if you know it'll irritate you?

Try to keep it classy. No reason to call a 19 year old kid an idiot. A lot of factors go into a decision to transfer. I'm sure he thought this was the best thing for him.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: esotericmindguy on October 08, 2014, 06:04:18 PM
Taylor is looking great...

Gabe was not going to play 3-guard or small fwd so it was 4/5 only for him.
Hard to ask a player to sit out a full year and then not look to play much in next couple of years. Better for player to transfer now and get into a new program asap where playing time will be available.  That was the situation Gabe thought he was coming to here.

WOJO did not tell him to go. It was Gabe's choice and he feels it is the right choice for him, so best of luck to Gabe. Things can change in a few months and they have for MU basketball.

Next year we have at 4/5
STJ - JR PF
Luke F-JR C
4 star Freshman Center
5 star Freshman PF

Gabe would have been 5th man, in a rotation that will more than likely have >95% of the minutes taken by the four above for 1 year for sure and who knows after that. 

PS Are recruiting for 2015 with additional schollie available.  Charging hard now on a top 100 that has been associated with MU and STJ connection.

Don't buy it. Matt Heldt committed on July 2nd. Ellenson has been a marquette lean all summer, according to most of the major recruiting circles. Why would he wait until October to decide....there has to be more to the story. Why not stay at Loyola Marymount if he's scared of 4 star recruits? Every major program will have 3 and 4 star recruits, many of them upper classmen.

Plus, there was a thread earlier saying how Levin was the best front court player for Marquette during the summer.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: esotericmindguy on October 08, 2014, 06:06:06 PM
"My guess is he was caught doing something inappropriate or wasn't going to class."

When you have no clue just speculate that it is probably the worst possible situation.......well done.... ::)

How about just wish the kid well and move on.....

I said it was a guess.. Settle down Mark. I don't know the kid, and he won't read the thread....wishing him well does nothing.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Next year we have at 4/5
STJ - JR PF
Luke F-JR C
4 star Freshman Center
5 star Freshman PF

Awfully confident Mr. Daddy. Would you dare to #donedeal?

PS Are recruiting for 2015 with additional schollie available.  Charging hard now on a top 100 that has been associated with MU and STJ connection.

Hmmmm, didn't STJ play for Meanstreets? I believe one Davon Dillard is now playing for the very same club.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: esotericmindguy on October 08, 2014, 06:09:49 PM
Try to keep it classy. No reason to call a 19 year old kid an idiot. A lot of factors go into a decision to transfer. I'm sure he thought this was the best thing for him.

Classy? The guy committed to Hofstra and then backed out to go to Marymount, now took a scholarship off the table this summer to transfer after two months. I think classy is an awfully ironic term to use.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2014, 06:11:51 PM
Don't buy it. Matt Heldt committed on July 2nd. Ellenson has been a marquette lean all summer, according to most of the major recruiting circles. Why would he wait until October to decide....there has to be more to the story. Why not stay at Loyola Marymount if he's scared of 4 star recruits? Every major program will have 3 and 4 star recruits, many of them upper classmen.

Plus, there was a thread earlier saying how Levin was the best front court player for Marquette during the summer.

Well one, practices just started so he may have gotten a better idea of where he stood in the rotation.

And two, decide and announce are two different things. As another poster pointed out, he had already been removed from the madness poster. Might have been a long time coming.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 08, 2014, 06:12:18 PM
Maybe Jabari Parker is gonna transfer in, aina?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 06:13:22 PM
Maybe Jabari Parker is gonna transfer in, aina?

I hear Wade has a year of eligibility left.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2014, 06:14:12 PM
Classy? The guy committed to Hofstra and then backed out to go to Marymount, now took a scholarship off the table this summer to transfer after two months. I think classy is an awfully ironic term to use.

Transferring to multiple schools for reasons only known to the player = confused kid who maybe hasn't found what he wants out of college yet

Random dude on the internet calling a 19 year old kid an idiot and inferring that he must either be flunking out or did something wrong = not classy
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: esotericmindguy on October 08, 2014, 06:20:44 PM
Well one, practices just started so he may have gotten a better idea of where he stood in the rotation.

And two, decide and announce are two different things. As another poster pointed out, he had already been removed from the madness poster. Might have been a long time coming.

Right. I'm sure the banner was started before practice started, so that's not likely the answer. He knew of the commitments prior to school starting and was aware of where Ellenson was leaning, so I doubt that is it. He transfers just ahead of mid terms, just like McKay. He doesn't exactly have a history of sticking things out, Marquette forces kids to go to class. Marquette isn't messing around with conduct anymore.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on October 08, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
Transferring to multiple schools for reasons only known to the player = confused kid who maybe hasn't found what he wants out of college yet

Random dude on the internet calling a 19 year old kid an idiot and inferring that he must either be flunking out or did something wrong = not classy

Good grief, it's a message board...now we have someone deciding what is classy or not. It's the guys opinion, same as yours.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TedBaxter on October 08, 2014, 06:23:59 PM
Classy? The guy committed to Hofstra and then backed out to go to Marymount, now took a scholarship off the table this summer to transfer after two months. I think classy is an awfully ironic term to use.

Do you even research things before you have an opinion?  Obviously not.

Gabe Levin committed to Hofstra when Mo Cassara was coach and about a week or so after he committed, Cassara was fired.  Then Max Good, who recruited and coached him at Loyola-Marymount, was fired after the 2013-2014 season.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: esotericmindguy on October 08, 2014, 06:25:14 PM
Transferring to multiple schools for reasons only known to the player = confused kid who maybe hasn't found what he wants out of college yet

Random dude on the internet calling a 19 year old kid an idiot and inferring that he must either be flunking out or did something wrong = not classy


He's not a kid! He's backed out on one school and now bailed on two others. I'm simply connecting the dots. Not seeing playing time in his future was likely not the reason. It's a chat board, I'm speculating, but I'd bet money that playing time was not the reason. Classy or not, it doesn't add up.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: esotericmindguy on October 08, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
Do you even research things before you have an opinion?  Obviously not.

Gabe Levin committed to Hofstra when Mo Cassara was coach and about a week or so after he committed, Cassara was fired.  Then Max Good, who recruited and coached him at Loyola-Marymount, was fired after the 2013-2014 season.

Noted. But doesn't explain his most recent departure, after 2 months. Unless there's more to the story. All I'm saying.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on October 08, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
I hope he gets it right at his next stop.  Gosh, I have blocked out all the foolish moves I made when I was 19.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ecompt on October 08, 2014, 06:42:08 PM
Look at these asshats already taking this and running:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=13234238

They have nothing else to talk about. Their football team as usual crapped the bed.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Groin_pull on October 08, 2014, 06:52:45 PM
They have nothing else to talk about. Their football team as usual crapped the bed.

Their football team is garbage...but their hoops team has a legit chance to return to the Final Four. You'd think Vadger fans would focus on that. Guess not.

Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Galway Eagle on October 08, 2014, 07:05:15 PM


He's not a kid! He's backed out on one school and now bailed on two others. I'm simply connecting the dots. Not seeing playing time in his future was likely not the reason. It's a chat board, I'm speculating, but I'd bet money that playing time was not the reason. Classy or not, it doesn't add up.

Yeah you're right why would a basketball player want playing time? I mean practice is so fun who needs the spotlight when you're talented but not quite as talented as the people ahead of you? He could get honest attention and playing time and looks if he transfers. Henry or not he's likely at best a 6th or 7th man next year. 
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 08, 2014, 07:21:14 PM
Many people marry a person they eventually do not like. As chicos knows, a figure closer to 50% than 30% of US marriages end in divorce.

34% according to researcher George Bama.  38% by National Center for Health Statistics.  Rutgers University study 30.5%.   So as Chicos knows well, the number is closer to 30%, than 50%....despite what Jay Bee tells you.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2014, 07:26:08 PM
Over two years ago. Not for every transfer, or any event where Marquette is in the headline. Im not obsessed with their recruits after they drop them from the list like they are for Henry.


You said "never."  UW has had one transfer since then.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: GGGG on October 08, 2014, 07:35:28 PM
Right. I'm sure the banner was started before practice started, so that's not likely the answer. He knew of the commitments prior to school starting and was aware of where Ellenson was leaning, so I doubt that is it. He transfers just ahead of mid terms, just like McKay. He doesn't exactly have a history of sticking things out, Marquette forces kids to go to class. Marquette isn't messing around with conduct anymore.


There is zero evidence that this is conduct related.  Zero. 
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2014, 07:58:29 PM
Good grief, it's a message board...now we have someone deciding what is classy or not. It's the guys opinion, same as yours.

Calling someone an idiot is not an opinion. It's an insult.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on October 08, 2014, 08:00:00 PM
Right. I'm sure the banner was started before practice started, so that's not likely the answer. He knew of the commitments prior to school starting and was aware of where Ellenson was leaning, so I doubt that is it. He transfers just ahead of mid terms, just like McKay. He doesn't exactly have a history of sticking things out, Marquette forces kids to go to class. Marquette isn't messing around with conduct anymore.

McKay didn't leave because of grades or conduct either.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: LAZER on October 08, 2014, 08:04:10 PM
Awfully confident Mr. Daddy. Would you dare to #donedeal?

Hmmmm, didn't STJ play for Meanstreets? I believe one Davon Dillard is now playing for the very same club.


Mac Irvin Fire
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Johnny B on October 08, 2014, 08:10:51 PM
Look at these asshats already taking this and running:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=193&f=2565&t=13234238
LOL
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: 4everwarriors on October 08, 2014, 08:25:05 PM
Wojo's recruitin' Kendrick Nunn, aina?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Johnny B on October 08, 2014, 08:30:12 PM
Does he have to sit out another year now?
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Jay Bee on October 08, 2014, 08:36:26 PM
Mac Irvin Fire

Yep; although Davon IIRC played with Meanstreets UNTIL this spring/summer.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: HutchwasClutch on October 08, 2014, 09:11:13 PM
Hofstra
Loyola Marymount
MU
??

This kid has some major commitment issues.  There's just no way around it.   He'll be on his fourth school in the last year?  He seems like a talented kid, and his freshman numbers bear that out, but good riddance.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ecompt on October 08, 2014, 09:56:52 PM

You said "never."  UW has had one transfer since then.

But UW has 90 football scholarships and 60 hockey (men and women) scholarships. I'm sure there have at least a few more transfers there.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: MuMark on October 08, 2014, 09:58:35 PM
WestCoastHoops ‏@WCHRdotcom  6m6 minutes ago
Marquette transfer Gabe Levin expected to enroll at Santa Monica JC. Will then choose between LBST & Hawaii. My money is on coach Dan Monson
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
WestCoastHoops ‏@WCHRdotcom  6m6 minutes ago
Marquette transfer Gabe Levin expected to enroll at Santa Monica JC. Will then choose between LBST & Hawaii. My money is on coach Dan Monson

Huh, maybe my comment about the weather shouldnt have been in teal...
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: onepost on October 08, 2014, 10:05:43 PM
How is it that Davon Dillard has yet to land somewhere?  I know once Haanif committed here the interest dropped and we focused all our attention on Henry, but how has he not been gobbled up by another place (Creighton, Purdue?).  Check out this highlight reel, the guy looks like a total stud.  Would love to snag him as a 5th scholie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zMQQ7Wf2Ug
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: wadesworld on October 08, 2014, 10:22:36 PM
Classy? The guy committed to Hofstra and then backed out to go to Marymount, now took a scholarship off the table this summer to transfer after two months. I think classy is an awfully ironic term to use.

So the guy used up one of our 3 available scholarships for this season?  Yeah, he really screwed us over!  What a classless kid!  Dear Lord.  Heaven forbid a 19 year old kid ever change his mind and decide that he doesn't want to spend 4 years of his life somewhere, so he chooses to make a change.  But hey, us adults should all just sit behind a computer screen and call the 19 year old an idiot!
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 10:27:29 PM
How is it that Davon Dillard has yet to land somewhere?  I know once Haanif committed here the interest dropped and we focused all our attention on Henry, but how has he not been gobbled up by another place (Creighton, Purdue?).  Check out this highlight reel, the guy looks like a total stud.  Would love to snag him as a 5th scholie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zMQQ7Wf2Ug

Ive learned to take every mix tape with a grain of salt after Juan Anderson.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: marquette20 on October 08, 2014, 10:31:39 PM
Anyone with any insider info, know exactly how long this was in the works? Doesn't make sense to be at official practices this week and not be on the poster. Like McKay, will this deem him ineligible till after winter or is it not an issue, since he is already redshirting this year.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 08, 2014, 10:32:08 PM
I yearn for non-traditional JUCOs.  
#grassisalwayswhiter#bigblowtowojosimage
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: mugrack on October 08, 2014, 10:37:33 PM
I'll bet he was worried that Wojo hasn't installed the offense yet.  ;D
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: River rat on October 08, 2014, 10:40:38 PM
Ive learned to take every mix tape with a grain of salt after Juan Anderson.

Thats a pretty ignorant comment.  If you actually pay attention juan is really good at everything but is a horrible shooter.  Eveything else is well above average
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: keefe on October 08, 2014, 10:50:12 PM
Calling someone an idiot is not an opinion. It's an insult.

I have no idea what this references but saying someone is an idiot is at times a statement of fact
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on October 08, 2014, 11:02:16 PM
Thats a pretty ignorant comment.  If you actually pay attention juan is really good at everything but is a horrible shooter.  Eveything else is well above average

Uhhh, not sure where to start...I like Juan and have supported him through his time here but he has a lot more problems then being a bad shooter, such as finishing at the rim or harnessing his energy on the defensive side to become a more intelligent defender and not get lost.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: River rat on October 09, 2014, 02:39:16 AM
Uhhh, not sure where to start...I like Juan and have supported him through his time here but he has a lot more problems then being a bad shooter, such as finishing at the rim or harnessing his energy on the defensive side to become a more intelligent defender and not get lost.

I guess i missed his defensive positioning mixed video.  Like i stated ball handling, passing, cutting and rebounding, and husyling are things juan does well above average and were indeed highlghted on any mixed tape.  The thing that has kept juan from being a really good college player has been his shooting, in particular lack of any consistancy in his release.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: willie warrior on October 09, 2014, 07:18:18 AM
Hofstra
Loyola Marymount
MU
??

This kid has some major commitment issues.  There's just no way around it.   He'll be on his fourth school in the last year?  He seems like a talented kid, and his freshman numbers bear that out, but good riddance.
makes one question why we took him in the first place. Same could be said about the next school that takes him.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on October 09, 2014, 08:35:44 AM
makes one question why we took him in the first place. Same could be said about the next school that takes him.

Carlino......
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: wadesworld on October 09, 2014, 08:40:28 AM
makes one question why we took him in the first place. Same could be said about the next school that takes him.

Why take him in the first place?  Well, we had 3 open scholarships at the end of the summer, so I'm fairly confident in saying we weren't going to find 3 other players to use those scholarships for.  And he put some big numbers up as a freshman at a low-level division 1 program.  So I the answer to "one('s) question" is pretty simple, and really no question at all.
Title: Re: Levin
Post by: Lennys Tap on October 09, 2014, 11:28:25 AM
Pole-axed, lied to, recruited over. Just win, baby. Squirmy. Did I leave anything out?

If this means we're getting Henry I couldn't be happier!

Looks like Levin read the writing on the wall.