Released today. Tied with IU.
Quote from: Knight Commission on September 09, 2014, 08:51:04 AM
Released today. Tied with IU.
We are also ahead of Michigan State.
MU 76 (as noted) ... five schools tied at 71
American
Baylor
Virginia Tech
Iowa
Minnesota
So Brent Upgraded!
Oh, and the top public universities
#20 UC - Berkeley
#23 UC - LA
#23 Virginia
#29 Michigan
#30 UNC
#37 UC - San Diego
#38 UC - Davis
#40 UC - Santa Barbara
#42 UC - Irvine
#42 Illinois
#47 UW Madison
Another Thought
Madison is the #4 ranked Big 10 School (#13 NW, #29 Mich, #42 Ill, #47 UW, #48 Penn St, #54 tOSU, #62 Pur, #62 Mary, #70 Rutgers, #71 Iowa, #71 Minnesota, #76 Ind, #85 MSU, #99 Neb)
MU is the #2 rated Big East School (#21 Gtown, #76 MU, #121 DePaul, #126 Seton Hall, #145 St. Johns)
Now to be fair to the BE schools ...
Creighton #1 Regional Universities, Midwest
Butler #2 Regional Universities, Midwest
Xavier #5 Regional Universities, Midwest
Villanova #1 Regional Universities, North
Providence #2 Regional Universities, North
Discuss
It surprised me to see how many of the public UC schools were in the top 50.
Quote from: Stronghold on September 10, 2014, 09:18:27 AM
It surprised me to see how many of the public UC schools were in the top 50.
Best system in the states, but a nightmare to get into, especially now. I have one going to college in two years and the competition to get into a UC is incredible. Back in my day, it came down to UC San Diego, UC Irvine and MU for me. There is no way in hell I could get into those two UC schools today with the grades I had then (which were very good).
Think of it this way, there are only 7 undergrad UC schools, and 6 are in the top 50. UC Riverside is the 7th. There is also UC SF, but that is a medical school only.
Quote from: Heisenberg on September 09, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
Oh, and the top public universities
#20 UC - Berkeley
#23 UC - LA
#23 Virginia
#29 Michigan
#30 UNC
#37 UC - San Diego
#38 UC - Davis
#40 UC - Santa Barbara
#42 UC - Irvine
#42 Illinois
#47 UW Madison
Another Thought
Madison is the #4 ranked Big 10 School (#13 NW, #29 Mich, #42 Ill, #47 UW, #48 Penn St, #54 tOSU, #62 Pur, #62 Mary, #70 Rutgers, #71 Iowa, #71 Minnesota, #76 Ind, #85 MSU, #99 Neb)
MU is the #2 rated Big East School (#21 Gtown, #76 MU, #121 DePaul, #126 Seton Hall, #145 St. Johns)
Now to be fair to the BE schools ...
Creighton #1 Regional Universities, Midwest
Butler #2 Regional Universities, Midwest
Xavier #5 Regional Universities, Midwest
Villanova #1 Regional Universities, North
Providence #2 Regional Universities, North
Discuss
Careful I posted that once going into the new big east and got torn to pieces on here. A bunch of people filled about how regional can mean better or something.
Quote from: Heisenberg on September 09, 2014, 04:18:42 PM
MU 76 (as noted) ... five schools tied at 71
American
Baylor
Virginia Tech
Iowa
Minnesota
So Brent Upgraded!
American should not be that high.
Northeastern?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 10, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
Best system in the states, but a nightmare to get into, especially now. I have one going to college in two years and the competition to get into a UC is incredible. Back in my day, it came down to UC San Diego, UC Irvine and MU for me. There is no way in hell I could get into those two UC schools today with the grades I had then (which were very good).
Think of it this way, there are only 7 undergrad UC schools, and 6 are in the top 50. UC Riverside is the 7th. There is also UC SF, but that is a medical school only.
So California needs 7, but Wisconsin needs 13?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 10, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
Best system in the states, but a nightmare to get into, especially now. I have one going to college in two years and the competition to get into a UC is incredible. Back in my day, it came down to UC San Diego, UC Irvine and MU for me. There is no way in hell I could get into those two UC schools today with the grades I had then (which were very good).
Think of it this way, there are only 7 undergrad UC schools, and 6 are in the top 50. UC Riverside is the 7th. There is also UC SF, but that is a medical school only.
So why doesn't he just go to Marquette? If everything goes according to plan he'll be able to witness a national championship run....or two
Quote from: warrior07 on September 10, 2014, 10:25:47 AM
So California needs 7, but Wisconsin needs 13?
Aren't there a whole bunch of Cal-State schools that are public but a "lower" tier than the UC system?
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on September 11, 2014, 03:22:41 PM
Aren't there a whole bunch of Cal-State schools that are public but a "lower" tier than the UC system?
Good question, I don't know.
I've always been baffled at the # in Wisconsin, though, compared to other states. And that's just the 4-year schools. Pretty sure there are 13 2-year UW-schools as well.
Quote from: warrior07 on September 11, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
Good question, I don't know.
I've always been baffled at the # in Wisconsin, though, compared to other states. And that's just the 4-year schools. Pretty sure there are 13 2-year UW-schools as well.
Most states university systems are laid out this way with two tiers.
University of XXXXXX
XXXXX State University (-Location)
Quote from: Heisenberg on September 09, 2014, 04:18:42 PM
MU 76 (as noted) ... five schools tied at 71
American
Baylor
Virginia Tech
Iowa
Minnesota
So Brent Upgraded!
Interesting. I think of Baylor and Minnesota as being way ahead of VT and Iowa. And Marquette ahead of all of them. But I'm biased.
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on September 11, 2014, 03:22:41 PM
Aren't there a whole bunch of Cal-State schools that are public but a "lower" tier than the UC system?
Yes : Cal State Fullerton, Bakersfield, Dominguez Hills, etc., etc. There are also Cal- Polys particularly San Luis Obispo which is very difficult to get in as well
Quote from: Texas Western on September 09, 2014, 03:09:02 PM
We are also ahead of Michigan State.
Pretty embarassing that we would be ranked ahead of any state school with a research presence.
I think we're all pretty aware that these rankings weight the research and public funding available to all of these schools very high. Not bashing MU, as we're not really out to be that school at this point.
Also - nice how MU and UW have 57% and 51% acceptance rates, respectively... speaking to any Badger fan, you'd expect them to be in the Michigan range. NOPE
Quote from: Stronghold on September 10, 2014, 09:18:27 AM
It surprised me to see how many of the public UC schools were in the top 50.
Financial instability comes to mind whenever the cal system is referenced. A behemoth should have a handful of good schools, makes sense.
The california state schools are a lower tier but there are lots of majors that aren't offered at both UC's and state schools. I'm from LA, I went to MU for physical therapy which is not offered at UC's but is at some of the state schools. the more you know.
Also it is much easier to get into the UC schools when you are from CA, Santa Barbara (I got in), SD, cal and UCLA are tough, the others not so much.
Where were we last year? Did we move in the right direction? I remember being in the 80s when I was at MU 5-8 years ago.
Quote from: Bleuteaux on September 12, 2014, 09:22:25 AM
Where were we last year? Did we move in the right direction? I remember being in the 80s when I was at MU 5-8 years ago.
75, up from 83 two years ago.
Quote from: Heisenberg on September 09, 2014, 04:35:09 PM
Oh, and the top public universities
#20 UC - Berkeley
#23 UC - LA
#23 Virginia
#29 Michigan
#30 UNC
#37 UC - San Diego
#38 UC - Davis
#40 UC - Santa Barbara
#42 UC - Irvine
#42 Illinois
#47 UW Madison
Another Thought
Madison is the #4 ranked Big 10 School (#13 NW, #29 Mich, #42 Ill, #47 UW, #48 Penn St, #54 tOSU, #62 Pur, #62 Mary, #70 Rutgers, #71 Iowa, #71 Minnesota, #76 Ind, #85 MSU, #99 Neb)
MU is the #2 rated Big East School (#21 Gtown, #76 MU, #121 DePaul, #126 Seton Hall, #145 St. Johns)
Now to be fair to the BE schools ...
Creighton #1 Regional Universities, Midwest
Butler #2 Regional Universities, Midwest
Xavier #5 Regional Universities, Midwest
Villanova #1 Regional Universities, North
Providence #2 Regional Universities, North
Discuss
It is interesting that Madison continues to tank. I read where the administration at Northeastern made a push to get their ratings up and they have gone from off the board almost to near parity with Madison. Would love to see our administration figure out how to move us up in the ratings . I think a lot of it is a PR campaign to peer institutions and guidance counselors at high schools.
Quote from: Texas Western on September 14, 2014, 05:42:05 PM
It is interesting that Madison continues to tank. I read where the administration at Northeastern made a push to get their ratings up and they have gone from off the board almost to near parity with Madison. Would love to see our administration figure out how to move us up in the ratings . I think a lot of it is a PR campaign to peer institutions and guidance counselors at high schools.
Tex, you must have missed this other thread:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=44687.0
Quote from: lawwarrior12 on September 11, 2014, 03:22:41 PM
Aren't there a whole bunch of Cal-State schools that are public but a "lower" tier than the UC system?
California has 10 schools in the main UC system and another 23 in the Cal-state system.
Quote from: Wally Ellenson Schroeder on September 12, 2014, 10:43:37 AM
75, up from 83 two years ago.
Does anyone know if there is a concise record of these over time? I'd be interested to see MU's ascension--pretty sure they were only listed as a regional university back when I was school.
Quote from: MUMountin on September 15, 2014, 11:14:24 AM
Does anyone know if there is a concise record of these over time? I'd be interested to see MU's ascension--pretty sure they were only listed as a regional university back when I was school.
Not that I know of, but I am pretty sure that when I entered ('04) they were over 100...106 or 108 if I recall. By the time I graduated (2008) they were in the low 90s.