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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: rocket surgeon on September 07, 2014, 08:27:49 PM
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i would bet the 1st amendment people are developing aneurysms over this one. could you imagine if marquette sent this text out to all fans or put that on all tickets? at least they could start with special sections for booing first, then move them outside with the smokers ;D what about whistling?
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/09/07/11-colleges-ban-booing-at-soccer-games/?intcmp=latestnews
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what about cheering? it seems they are trying to limit "bad behavior" or hurting someones feelings? i'm not quite sure what they are trying to accomplish here. then what about cheering? wouldn't that hurt the opposing teams feelings? if they try to enforce this by penalizing the home team then opposing fans will boo even louder. will they have cameras and microphones out in the crowd and miscreants will be...what. this is really weird. try to enforce this in philly where they boo'd santa claus ?-(
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H E Y
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H E Y
HEY, gabba, gabba hey, disco makes.....
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What a joke
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It's soccer, what do you expect? (Oops sorry, I'm supposed to stay out of these discussions...)
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This is a logical extension of the everyone gets a ribbon generation.
Booing is bullying…ban it now.
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What kind of attendance do they have. I'd guess we are talking about at most 40-50 people and their cats (it is New England after all).
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Booing your team is for douche bros and guttertrash.
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It's soccer, what do you expect? (Oops sorry, I'm supposed to stay out of these discussions...)
Now, when they do this to a real sport, they we may have an issue! When I was in high school, the soccer team was made up of guys who sucked at baseball, basketball or football. Soccer players were not considered to be jocks.
Obviously that has changed... but my opinion on soccer has not.
I'll fight this battle with you Wades :P
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My son played LAX at Middlebury which is in the NESCAC. We attended Middlebury football games and the crowds were pretty tame from what we saw. I am told this is a specific response to some off-color language incorporated into student chants during Williams - Amherst games.
The atmosphere at NESCAC events is rather collegial. Teams, students, and alums usually gather together after games for socializing. I cannot imagine Michigan and Ohio State tribes getting together to hoist a few while reliving the excitement of that day's match.
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Sorry, but this is NOTHING compared to the policing of fan behavior at golf or even tennis events. If you so much as fart when a player is about to putt or serve, they'll try to get you booted.
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My son played LAX at Middlebury which is in the NESCAC. We attended Middlebury football games and the crowds were pretty tame from what we saw. I am told this is a specific response to some off-color language incorporated into student chants during Williams - Amherst games.
The atmosphere at NESCAC events is rather collegial. Teams, students, and alums usually gather together after games for socializing. I cannot imagine Michigan and Ohio State tribes getting together to hoist a few while reliving the excitement of that day's match.
A buddy of mine was the kicker for Middlebury's football team a few years ago. He filled the shoes of Steven Haushka after he graduated from there and Russell Wilson'd/Trent Lockett'd into NC State.
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Sorry, but this is NOTHING compared to the policing of fan behavior at golf or even tennis events. If you so much as fart when a player is about to putt or serve, they'll try to get you booted.
But, yet we expect a guy to be able to hit a 91 MPH slider with 50,000 people screaming.
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Booing your team is for douche bros and guttertrash.
I won't go quite that far, but I generally agree. However, this seems to be geared towards booing in general. Booing is almost always directed at officials, usually the home team booing at officials for 'missing' a call. To me this really looks like the conference creating an illusion of decorum.
Side note: on at least one occasion I've witnessed even MU fans booing the team on a particularly poor performance, not saying it's right, but it happens just about everywhere. It's certainly not the norm in college athletics at least.
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Sorry, but this is NOTHING compared to the policing of fan behavior at golf or even tennis events. If you so much as fart when a player is about to putt or serve, they'll try to get you booted.
Well, they don't want crowd noise to drown out the fake bird chirps the networks dub into broadcasts. One of the most absurd charades in sports.
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This is a logical extension of the everyone gets a ribbon generation.
Booing is bullying…ban it now.
You are making a dumb leap in logic. Read Keefe's post. This is NESCAC...basically the small college version of the Ivy League. Kids who are used to dealing with high performance on the athletic and academic fronts.
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Wait ... somebody actually pays money to watch soccer?
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Wait ... somebody actually pays money to watch soccer?
According to Forbes, 6 of the 20 highest paid athletes in the world (including #2 and #4) are soccer players. Only 4 are basketball players.
http://www.forbes.com/athletes/list/#tab:overall
So yeah, your opinion (and that of many others on this board) are the exceptions....
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i'll probably catch some chit for this post-sticking up for soccer players, but here it goes...i wasn't a fan until both my boys took it up. both ended up pretty good. both keepers. my oldest probably had a shot at playing at the next level/college, but chose to concentrate on his studies. anyway, not only are these guys in terrific shape, but it is a very physical game. they wear very few pads and play in some of the most inclement weather-cold, rain snow, etc. some of the hitting especiall without pads comes pretty darn close to football or rugby. so it's easy to critisize, i guess and i get that. i'm wodering if due to the lack of scoring and people really not understanding the game, it gets low grades?
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i'll probably catch some chit for this post-sticking up for soccer players, but here it goes...i wasn't a fan until both my boys took it up. both ended up pretty good. both keepers. my oldest probably had a shot at playing at the next level/college, but chose to concentrate on his studies. anyway, not only are these guys in terrific shape, but it is a very physical game. they wear very few pads and play in some of the most inclement weather-cold, rain snow, etc. some of the hitting especiall without pads comes pretty darn close to football or rugby. so it's easy to critisize, i guess and i get that. i'm wodering if due to the lack of scoring and people really not understanding the game, it gets low grades?
I played rugby and soccer and disagree entirely. Maybe your sons' league is an outlier but I gave up soccer because I kept getting in trouble for the hits I leaned in Lacrosse or rugby. You have a point about the weather I'll give you that but rugby and lacrosse heck football too get played in much colder temperatures than soccer.
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I played rugby and soccer and disagree entirely. Maybe your sons' league is an outlier but I gave up soccer because I kept getting in trouble for the hits I leaned in Lacrosse or rugby. You have a point about the weather I'll give you that but rugby and lacrosse heck football too get played in much colder temperatures than soccer.
Throwing a lot of blanket around in this post. Maybe next time take a few minutes to gather your thoughts and write them coherently?
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According to Forbes, 6 of the 20 highest paid athletes in the world (including #2 and #4) are soccer players. Only 4 are basketball players.
http://www.forbes.com/athletes/list/#tab:overall
So yeah, your opinion (and that of many others on this board) are the exceptions....
Worldwide... yes.
Here in this country.... hardly the exception.
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i'll probably catch some chit for this post-sticking up for soccer players, but here it goes...i wasn't a fan until both my boys took it up. both ended up pretty good. both keepers. my oldest probably had a shot at playing at the next level/college, but chose to concentrate on his studies. anyway, not only are these guys in terrific shape, but it is a very physical game. they wear very few pads and play in some of the most inclement weather-cold, rain snow, etc. some of the hitting especiall without pads comes pretty darn close to football or rugby. so it's easy to critisize, i guess and i get that. i'm wodering if due to the lack of scoring and people really not understanding the game, it gets low grades?
I think it goes beyond the lack of scoring to the fact that for 90% of the game teams aren't even trying to create opportunities to score. It's incredibly boring to watch the ball be passed around the middle of the field with very, very few advancements of the ball deep into one team or another's territory until it's 1-0 with 5 minutes left in the game, and then all of a sudden the losing team creates 6 shots on goal in 3 minutes while they had 2 for the previous 87 minutes. I get it, you can't play with that kind of urgency for a full 90 minutes, you'll get tired and get burned for 4 goals (and that's the problem, 4 scores is an absurdly high number for one team in soccer).
This fact makes it so that one team can completely "dominate" a game (passing percentage, possession, shots on goal, corner kicks, just opportunities in general) and still lose 1-0. Plus a large majority of games don't count for a whole lot. Teams play looking for a tie. What kind of athlete/competitor hopes for, is happy with, a tie? Just lame if you ask me.
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Throwing a lot of blanket around in this post. Maybe next time take a few minutes to gather your thoughts and write them coherently?
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I think it goes beyond the lack of scoring to the fact that for 90% of the game teams aren't even trying to create opportunities to score. It's incredibly boring to watch the ball be passed around the middle of the field with very, very few advancements of the ball deep into one team or another's territory until it's 1-0 with 5 minutes left in the game, and then all of a sudden the losing team creates 6 shots on goal in 3 minutes while they had 2 for the previous 87 minutes. I get it, you can't play with that kind of urgency for a full 90 minutes, you'll get tired and get burned for 4 goals (and that's the problem, 4 scores is an absurdly high number for one team in soccer).
This fact makes it so that one team can completely "dominate" a game (passing percentage, possession, shots on goal, corner kicks, just opportunities in general) and still lose 1-0. Plus a large majority of games don't count for a whole lot. Teams play looking for a tie. What kind of athlete/competitor hopes for, is happy with, a tie? Just lame if you ask me.
Teams area always trying to create opportunities to score. Passing around the back or middle is changing the point of attack and allowing forwards/mids time to find space and make runs. Just because you don't understand it or see it doesn't mean it isn't happening. As for end of games, losing teams push like crazy, and, as a result, often get burned the other way because they're pushed forward too much.
I know of zero true athletes in any sport at any level who are looking for a tie. Happy with a tie? Sure, maybe if it's a table format and the other team is clearly superior.
Also, when talking about "games don't count for a whole lot", the same could be said for MLB, NBA and NHL.
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Teams area always trying to create opportunities to score. Passing around the back or middle is changing the point of attack and allowing forwards/mids time to find space and make runs. Just because you don't understand it or see it doesn't mean it isn't happening. As for end of games, losing teams push like crazy, and, as a result, often get burned the other way because they're pushed forward too much.
I know of zero true athletes in any sport at any level who are looking for a tie. Happy with a tie? Sure, maybe if it's a table format and the other team is clearly superior.
Also, when talking about "games don't count for a whole lot", the same could be said for MLB, NBA and NHL.
I see it, I just don't think those things really ever lead to scoring opportunities. How many truly good scoring opportunities per game are there at a level of division 1 college or above per game? Maybe 5 between the 2 teams? In a 90 minute game? And 2-4 of those end without a goal. Just plain boring.
Teams are always happy to leave an opponents home field with a tie in aggregate scoring (unless it's the 2nd leg and they lost the first game). It's lame.
Hockey also stinks and also has games that result in ties, so I'd agree there. MLB and NBA have games that determine a winner no matter what. They will play as long as they have to, but there will be no tie.