Run on Marquette crystal ball predictions for MU on 247sports. Mark Miller, Evan Flood, Jerry Meyer included
I'm down with this as well.
Top kid in the state for 2016? I'm down.
Sam Howitzer!
Adding to the MU arsenal!
Here's the link to his page on 24/7 Sports.
http://247sports.com/Player/Sam-Hauser-31242 (http://247sports.com/Player/Sam-Hauser-31242)
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 14, 2014, 03:44:28 PM
I'm down with this as well.
Does that mean you look upon this situation with favor? Or does that mean you are in agreement that he's MU-bound?
[Help me out here, I'm old and out of touch]
Quote from: AZWarrior on July 14, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
Does that mean you look upon this situation with favor? Or does that mean you are in agreement that he's MU-bound?
[Help me out here, I'm old and out of touch]
Painless needn't explain himself to anyone. His pronouncements are manna.
Quote from: AZWarrior on July 14, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
Does that mean you look upon this situation with favor? Or does that mean you are in agreement that he's MU-bound?
[Help me out here, I'm old and out of touch]
Being old and out of touch is where you need to be when disciphering a 4ever post!
I saw him play last Thursday and was immediately sold on him. I really want him to come to MU.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on July 14, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
Run on Marquette crystal ball predictions for MU on 247sports. Mark Miller, Evan Flood, Jerry Meyer included
I'm really starting to suspect that Jerry Meyer just copies Mark Miller's predictions when it comes to Wisconsin players.
I don't really know, but it seems to me that Hauser would fill a role similar to what Matt Ryan would have filled.
Quote from: keefe on July 14, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
Painless needn't explain himself to anyone. His pronouncements are manna.
a MASH reference? Nice.
Quote from: AZWarrior on July 14, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
Does that mean you look upon this situation with favor? Or does that mean you are in agreement that he's MU-bound?
[Help me out here, I'm old and out of touch]
Urban dictionary defines "down with" as "in agreement with"
I have never seen Sam Hauser play, but MU only has one scholarship to give in 2 years, losing only Steve Taylor. If he says yes, is he that good to give him the only scholarship? I know
you have to always keep recruiting as somebody might leave but with a big recruiting class next year, mainly local kids, I do not see much of that like in the past. What do you think?
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 15, 2014, 01:10:48 PM
Urban dictionary defines "down with" as "in agreement with"
Hmmm......I think I'll book mark the Urban dictionary.
Thanks, BTW.
Quote from: BCHoopster on July 15, 2014, 01:11:38 PM
I have never seen Sam Hauser play, but MU only has one scholarship to give in 2 years, losing only Steve Taylor. If he says yes, is he that good to give him the only scholarship? I know
you have to always keep recruiting as somebody might leave but with a big recruiting class next year, mainly local kids, I do not see much of that like in the past. What do you think?
We're getting the Stone/Newman package and they are both going pro after their freshmen year
I think it's more likely than not that we will have more than one schollie available for 2016 when all is said and done. I think the average for transfers is around 2.5 per school per offseason.
But if Wojo keeps everyone in tow, Hauser wouldn't be a bad add. 6"6 and can play multiple positions. Great shooting stroke. Could be a Sam Dekker lite. That being said, I expect Wojo will kick the tires on a lot of potential Warriors.
Quote from: BCHoopster on July 15, 2014, 01:11:38 PM
I have never seen Sam Hauser play, but MU only has one scholarship to give in 2 years, losing only Steve Taylor. If he says yes, is he that good to give him the only scholarship? I know
you have to always keep recruiting as somebody might leave but with a big recruiting class next year, mainly local kids, I do not see much of that like in the past. What do you think?
If things go as I hope they do we will have Fischer, Heldt and Ellenson for bigmen. I should not place so much value on watching a player only once, but I think Hauser is worth our only 2016 scholarship.
Quote from: bilsu on July 15, 2014, 12:25:07 PM
I saw him play last Thursday and was immediately sold on him. I really want him to come to MU.
Have you seen the younger brother play? Kid is a stud.
Quote from: ATWizJr on July 15, 2014, 12:39:36 PM
a MASH reference? Nice.
Well done, Tom. The Painless Last Supper scene is pure cinematic Gold.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 15, 2014, 03:25:16 PM
We're getting the Stone/Newman package and they are both going pro after their freshmen year
I think it's more likely than not that we will have more than one schollie available for 2016 when all is said and done. I think the average for transfers is around 2.5 per school per offseason.
But if Wojo keeps everyone in tow, Hauser wouldn't be a bad add. 6"6 and can play multiple positions. Great shooting stroke. Could be a Sam Dekker lite. That being said, I expect Wojo will kick the tires on a lot of potential Warriors.
Heading into his freshman year it will be lite, but I sure as heck hope he develops better than Dekker has in college. Talk about a player leveling off at the college level. All I heard about Dekker was that he was a more athletic Steve Novak, would only be around for 2 years at the absolute max, would possibly be a one and done, would be the most athletic player on the court in most games, etc. etc. etc. While certainly far from a bad player, Dekker has not come close to living up to the hype/expectations.
Houser? Yowser!
Wojo looking to lock down Wisconsin prepsters.
Oh yeahhhhhh....
Quote from: muhoops1 on July 15, 2014, 03:51:47 PM
Have you seen the younger brother play? Kid is a stud.
He played a little bit on the 16U team on Sunday, but not at all when it counted. I remember playing against Joey Hauser in the middle school state tourney a few years back. He was so tall, he could hold the ball so high that most of our guys couldn't even jump that high, lol. We saw him in the aux gym at Mequon on Sunday -- he is exactly as tall as his older brother -- which they list at 6' 6".
Yea, not sure what to make of this guy yet. Has Wisconsin offered?
Quote from: wadesworld on July 15, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
Heading into his freshman year it will be lite, but I sure as heck hope he develops better than Dekker has in college. Talk about a player leveling off at the college level. All I heard about Dekker was that he was a more athletic Steve Novak, would only be around for 2 years at the absolute max, would possibly be a one and done, would be the most athletic player on the court in most games, etc. etc. etc. While certainly far from a bad player, Dekker has not come close to living up to the hype/expectations.
I don't know that much about his hype before going to UW, but does anyone think badger fans are even the slightest bit disappointed in dekker's first two years in college? He is quick, athletic, can drive and finish, get to loose balls and drain the open three. I would love a guy like that on marquette.
And just to stir the pot, I think he will have a very nice NBA career.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 15, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
Heading into his freshman year it will be lite, but I sure as heck hope he develops better than Dekker has in college. Talk about a player leveling off at the college level. All I heard about Dekker was that he was a more athletic Steve Novak, would only be around for 2 years at the absolute max, would possibly be a one and done, would be the most athletic player on the court in most games, etc. etc. etc. While certainly far from a bad player, Dekker has not come close to living up to the hype/expectations.
If you look at Dekker's stats, they are about the same as Novak's after two years. Dekker is a better rebounder and Novak is a better shooter from deep.
Dekker's just fine. I think the expectations were a bit much coming in, but he'll make the NBA.
Quote from: thanooj on July 16, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
I don't know that much about his hype before going to UW, but does anyone think badger fans are even the slightest bit disappointed in dekker's first two years in college? He is quick, athletic, can drive and finish, get to loose balls and drain the open three. I would love a guy like that on marquette.
And just to stir the pot, I think he will have a very nice NBA career.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 16, 2014, 12:08:46 PM
If you look at Dekker's stats, they are about the same as Novak's after two years. Dekker is a better rebounder and Novak is a better shooter from deep.
Dekker's just fine. I think the expectations were a bit much coming in, but he'll make the NBA.
I agree with pretty much everything you both said. I just mean that all I heard about him coming into UW is that he was a guy that you absolutely had to fear every time you played the Badgers. The kind of guy who could get 41 points on the #2 team in the country like Novak did against UCONN, and was a threat to do it at any time. He still has 2 years to show he can develop into that, but I just don't think Dekker has that kind of game in him. He's fine. But from what I remember leading up to him getting to college was that "fine" would be a disappointment.
I do think he'll be in the NBA as well, I'm not sure about a very nice career, but a career nonetheless.
Right on wadesworld
Dekker was outstanding at the Lebron Skills camp. They measured him at 6'9" and he was much more assertive on both ends of the floor.
Of course, that will need to translate to the floor in Madison for them to make a deep run. But the fact that he took a leadership role there bodes well for his future.
He'd be far and away the best player on the floor this year if he was at MU
Bo was hard on Dekker from the start because of his lack of effort on D, especially at practice. He constantly took him down a notch. My friend, a former Badger player, who has attended practices over the years said it was embarrassing to even be in the gym to see it. I think it is extremely difficult for "players" to shine on Bo's team because there is so much emphasis on "team." This is especially true of underclassmen. Dekker was arguably the best player on his team as a freshman, but Bo was always really tough on him. He couldn't keep him on the floor because of his defense. I think this "tough love" will certainly help him in the end, especially at the next level.
Quote from: brandx on July 16, 2014, 01:36:53 PM
He'd be far and away the best player on the floor this year if he was at MU
Agree. And to bring it all back to Hauser, I see Dekker and Hauser as a pretty comparable high school players, so I hope we can get him.
I know rankings don't mean much and you have to take everything with a grain of salt. That said, Hauser is going to be a junior correct? Howcome he isn't in any of the rankings or when I type his name into the 2016 ESPN or Scout recruiting database he doesn't show up?. You would think that the top kid in Wisconsin would at least have a profile.
Judging by what you guys are saying and knowing he's the top kid in the state I definitely want the kid at MU. I'm just wondering why he is so under the radar at this point?
Quote from: jakeec on July 16, 2014, 11:54:28 AM
Yea, not sure what to make of this guy yet. Has Wisconsin offered?
Not yet. Only offers are from MU, UWGB, Drake, UNI and Toledo. But he's on a lot of coach's radars, including Bo's.
Quote from: swoopem on July 16, 2014, 02:09:19 PM
I know rankings don't mean much and you have to take everything with a grain of salt. That said, Hauser is going to be a junior correct? Howcome he isn't in any of the rankings or when I type his name into the 2016 ESPN or Scout recruiting database he doesn't show up?. You would think that the top kid in Wisconsin would at least have a profile.
Judging by what you guys are saying and knowing he's the top kid in the state I definitely want the kid at MU. I'm just wondering why he is so under the radar at this point?
Hauser is from a no name town in Northern Wisconsin, not exactly a recruiting hotbed. Hauser's game also centers around shooting, scouts tend to value athleticism over shooting.
Give it time. The recruiting services will catch up.
Saw Hauser tonight in Mequon. Looked very good. Silky shot. Probably scored around 24 and was pretty efficient. Heldt had 26 in a sloppy game. Knocked down two or three from beyond the arc. Flory had 21 while playing up a level in a loss.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 16, 2014, 12:08:46 PM
If you look at Dekker's stats, they are about the same as Novak's after two years. Dekker is a better rebounder and Novak is a better shooter from deep.
wat
Dekker's is only a medium-high usage guy, but Novak was decidedly less (3-point specialist, one could say). Dekker's second year.. his 2FG/FGA were trending close to 2/3rd's... VERY low turnover rate especially considering how used. Draws a lot more fouls. But... Steve a better shooter from the important eFG perspective.
Anyway, Dekker vs. Novak.. statistically.. very different. Profile and stats both.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 16, 2014, 08:54:45 PM
Hauser is from a no name town in Northern Wisconsin, not exactly a recruiting hotbed. Hauser's game also centers around shooting, scouts tend to value athleticism over shooting.
Give it time. The recruiting services will catch up.
No name town. Point is actually quite good from a sports standpoint. Lived there for 10 years. SPASH is a big HS. Dick Bennett really started in Point. Underrated.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on July 16, 2014, 09:07:28 PM
Saw Hauser tonight in Mequon. Looked very good. Silky shot. Probably scored around 24 and was pretty efficient. Heldt had 26 in a sloppy game. Knocked down two or three from beyond the arc. Flory had 21 while playing up a level in a loss.
Did they run the picket fence for him?
SPASH has historically been one of the top 3 enrolled HS in Wisky. I believe the University of Arrowhead has surpassed every other. Another large HS in Wisky is Neenah.
I guess depends on one's definition of no name.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 16, 2014, 08:54:45 PM
Hauser is from a no name town in Northern Wisconsin, not exactly a recruiting hotbed. Hauser's game also centers around shooting, scouts tend to value athleticism over shooting.
Give it time. The recruiting services will catch up.
This reminds me... A few weeks ago UNLV coach Dave Rice was on a local sports talk program. The Rebels have a top five recruiting class coming in. One of the co-hosts asked Rice: "Eleven players of the projected fifteen man roster are guards. Can you comment about this?"
Rice replied (paraphrasing): "We can't have too many players who are:
1) Of good character
2) Can shoot
3) Can handle the ball"
Seems COWOJO likes these qualities too!
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on July 16, 2014, 09:28:10 PM
This reminds me... A few weeks ago UNLV coach Dave Rice was on a local sports talk program. The Rebels have a top five recruiting class coming in. One of the co-hosts asked Rice: "Eleven players of the projected fifteen man roster are guards. Can you comment about this?"
Rice replied (paraphrasing): "We can't have too many players who are:
1) Of good character
2) Can shoot
3) Can handle the ball"
Seems COWOJO likes these qualities too!
I will be out there next wk... lots of good teams in several tourneys.. prob will mostly be at Cashman Center & Rancho HS for adidas & Bishop Gorman for Fab 48... but not unusual to put in 200 miles driving to random gyms around Vegas during this week/end in the past.
Quote from: Jay Bee on July 16, 2014, 09:59:53 PM
I will be out there next wk... lots of good teams in several tourneys.. prob will mostly be at Cashman Center & Rancho HS for adidas & Bishop Gorman for Fab 48... but not unusual to put in 200 miles driving to random gyms around Vegas during this week/end in the past.
Between Lebron's camp/NBA Summer League/High School Tourneys there's a ton of basketball here in the summer!
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 16, 2014, 09:11:32 PM
No name town. Point is actually quite good from a sports standpoint. Lived there for 10 years. SPASH is a big HS. Dick Bennett really started in Point. Underrated.
It's a city in Wisconsin not named Milwaukee, Madison, or Green Bay. To a national recruiting service, that is a no name town.
Quote from: Nukem2 on July 16, 2014, 09:11:32 PM
No name town. Point is actually quite good from a sports standpoint. Lived there for 10 years. SPASH is a big HS. Dick Bennett really started in Point. Underrated.
Dick Bennett started out at point, yes, but at UWSP, not SPASH.
Nevertheless, SPASH is a good school in a tough conference with a history of good basketball.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 17, 2014, 01:04:09 AM
It's a city in Wisconsin not named Milwaukee, Madison, or Green Bay. To a national recruiting service, that is a no name town.
Plus, his Academy team stays pretty local other than Minneapolis. There are plenty of big name tournaments in the Midwest and beyond, but they don't enter. Could be a cost, sponsorship thing. As far as national rankings, there is a lot of work being done behind the scenes promoting players, etc. This weekend is an important tournament from an exposure perspective for Hauser and Anderson -- and both didn't disappoint last night.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 17, 2014, 01:04:09 AM
It's a city in Wisconsin not named Milwaukee, Madison, or Green Bay. To a national recruiting service, that is a no name town.
More importantly, when is the last time a high D1 basketball player came out of Stevens Point?
Random, but he reminds me of a much improved version of Iowa commit Brady Ellingson. Same deadly shot, but longer, quicker and a better pull up jumper and handles.
.......so not that similar at all actually
Jeff Zavada (SP Pacelli) went to Marquette back in 89 or so - not sure Marquette was considered high major under Dukiet though :)
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 17, 2014, 09:17:21 AM
More importantly, when is the last time a high D1 basketball player came out of Stevens Point?
Quote from: madtownwarrior on July 17, 2014, 09:41:53 AM
Jeff Zavada (SP Pacelli) went to Marquette back in 89 or so - not sure Marquette was considered high major under Dukiet though :)
Yes, it was 1989 as I was a freshman that year and we both lived in East Hall. I became decent friends with him and fondly remember several drinking excursions. For some reason I thought of him as well, but thought he was from Green Bay originally. Too long ago to remember.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 17, 2014, 09:17:21 AM
More importantly, when is the last time a high D1 basketball player came out of Stevens Point?
Irrelevant, if you're a playa, you're a playa no matter where your folks live. Where was Anthony Pieper from again?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 17, 2014, 10:52:27 AM
Irrelevant, if you're a playa, you're a playa no matter where your folks live. Where was Anthony Pieper from again?
Well I agree with that, but that's not the point of what we are talking about.
TAMU called "Stevens Point" a no name town. To which others disagreed. But "Stevens Point" is as much a no name town in the college basketball recruiting world as is Wausaukee (Pieper), Cassville (Okey), Sheboygan (Dekker) and Fond du Lac (Diener).
One major difference when comparing those schools, Stevens Point and Fond du Lac are two of the largest high schools in the state of Wisconsin. Fond du Lac (2,477 students and #1 enrollment in the state), Stevens Point (1,728 students and #24 in enrollment in the state). Also, Matt Heldt is from Neenah and they have the #10 enrollment in the state at 2,156.
Cassville is ranked #360 with an enrollment is 170 students, and Wausaukee is ranked the #333 largest school in Wisconsin with an enrollment of 214. Sheboygan Lutheran is hard to gauge because it is in a large community. One thing I know for sure is, Hauser might be good, but you can't compare him to Dekker. Dekker was ranked in the top 20 coming out of high school. He may be a very high #1 draft pick in the NBA.
Quote from: hoops12 on July 17, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
One thing I know for sure is, Hauser might be good, but you can't compare him to Dekker. Dekker was ranked in the top 20 coming out of high school. He may be a very high #1 draft pick in the NBA.
It seems like their style of play is comparable. But yes, Hauser is definitely no where near the talent level of Dekker.
Quote from: hoops12 on July 17, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
One thing I know for sure is, Hauser might be good, but you can't compare him to Dekker. Dekker was ranked in the top 20 coming out of high school. He may be a very high #1 draft pick in the NBA.
My recollection is Dekker blew up for WI Playground Warriors the summer between his sophomore and junior years (where Hauser is now). It really helped Dekker having the highly touted J.P. Tokoto on his team because Tokoto was seen as the best in the state since 7th grade. Ritchie Davis really promotes his guys and they did some national tourneys where Dekker got his name out there, similar to how Pritzl did with his hot spring. I'm not saying Hauser is going to be an ESPN top 20 or NBA pick, I think their games look pretty similar at this point in Hauser's development other than I think Dekker was a little more athletic. I would also say Hauser is going to end up being a 4-star and top 100 guy based on my eye test. Certainly could be wrong, but I think once he gets on a more national stage, his rankings will go way up. Obviously, this weekend is an important step in this direction. Just one man's opinion.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on July 17, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
My recollection is Dekker blew up for WI Playground Warriors the summer between his sophomore and junior years (where Hauser is now). It really helped Dekker having the highly touted J.P. Tokoto on his team because Tokoto was seen as the best in the state since 7th grade. Ritchie Davis really promotes his guys and they did some national tourneys where Dekker got his name out there, similar to how Pritzl did with his hot spring. I'm not saying Hauser is going to be an ESPN top 20 or NBA pick, I think their games look pretty similar at this point in Hauser's development other than I think Dekker was a little more athletic. I would also say Hauser is going to end up being a 4-star and top 100 guy based on my eye test. Certainly could be wrong, but I think once he gets on a more national stage, his rankings will go way up. Obviously, this weekend is an important step in this direction. Just one man's opinion.
The only reason I brought this up is because I was kinda surprised that ESPN and Scout don't even have a profile for him. Like I said, I trust your opinion as well as the others who have watched him and would love for him to be at Marquette, but right now he seems like one of the most underrated players in the country....which is a good thing.
In my opinion Dekker is a 3/4 and I think Hauser is a 3/2. Dekker is the better inside player. Hauser the better outside shooter. Duke and I am assuming Wojo place a high value on outside shooters.
Like to see this cat rockin' the Warrior uni
Chris Carrawell was in Louisville last night watching Sam. I think Flory played there as well.
Quote from: hoops12 on July 17, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
One major difference when comparing those schools, Stevens Point and Fond du Lac are two of the largest high schools in the state of Wisconsin. Fond du Lac (2,477 students and #1 enrollment in the state), Stevens Point (1,728 students and #24 in enrollment in the state). Also, Matt Heldt is from Neenah and they have the #10 enrollment in the state at 2,156.
Cassville is ranked #360 with an enrollment is 170 students, and Wausaukee is ranked the #333 largest school in Wisconsin with an enrollment of 214. Sheboygan Lutheran is hard to gauge because it is in a large community. One thing I know for sure is, Hauser might be good, but you can't compare him to Dekker. Dekker was ranked in the top 20 coming out of high school. He may be a very high #1 draft pick in the NBA.
that is crazy and can put things into perspective. For example my son was an all conference baseball player this spring. Every team in his conference, sans two, is larger than fon du lac. he was actually on one of the two smaller.
http://247sports.com/Player/Sam-Hauser-31242
Sam Hauser is ranked 77 in the first 247sports composite rankings for 2016
Lots of talent comes out of SP, including the state's #1 ranked professional golfer.
Quote from: MUEagle1090 on August 21, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
http://247sports.com/Player/Sam-Hauser-31242
Sam Hauser is ranked 77 in the first 247sports composite rankings for 2016
This makes me laugh at all the people who said offering Hauser was a terrible idea and Wojo shouldn't be bothering with 2 star white kids from Stevens Point
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on August 21, 2014, 01:12:59 PM
This makes me laugh at all the people who said offering Hauser was a terrible idea and Wojo shouldn't be bothering with 2 star white kids from Stevens Point
You're right about that, my friend.
I swear, some folks think Wojo is stupid and/or desperate. He played for and coached under one of the great basketball minds in history; I'm guessing he has an idea of what a legit D1 player looks like.
Quote from: Eford4President2016 on August 21, 2014, 12:56:45 PM
Lots of talent comes out of SP, including the state's #1 ranked professional golfer.
Steve Stricker is from Stevens Point?
Nope....
Quote from: wadesworld on July 15, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
Heading into his freshman year it will be lite, but I sure as heck hope he develops better than Dekker has in college. Talk about a player leveling off at the college level. All I heard about Dekker was that he was a more athletic Steve Novak, would only be around for 2 years at the absolute max, would possibly be a one and done, would be the most athletic player on the court in most games, etc. etc. etc. While certainly far from a bad player, Dekker has not come close to living up to the hype/expectations.
He's solid, some had unrealistic expectations for him. You'd take Dekker on your team in a heartbeat..
As for Hauser, he's a stud. I'm surprised Wisconsin hasn't offered.
Quote from: OnWisconsin on August 21, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
He's solid, some had unrealistic expectations for him. You'd take Dekker on your team in a heartbeat..
As for Hauser, he's a stud. I'm surprised Wisconsin hasn't offered.
I think everyone here would take Dekker in a heartbeat. What I think he was saying was that Dekker hasn't improved from year to year as much as we would have expected.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 15, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
Heading into his freshman year it will be lite, but I sure as heck hope he develops better than Dekker has in college. Talk about a player leveling off at the college level. All I heard about Dekker was that he was a more athletic Steve Novak, would only be around for 2 years at the absolute max, would possibly be a one and done, would be the most athletic player on the court in most games, etc. etc. etc. While certainly far from a bad player, Dekker has not come close to living up to the hype/expectations.
He may not have lived up to the hype because some thought he would be one and done.
But leveling off at the College level? He went 12.4/6.1 last year on a Final Four team. I would take him on Marquette in a second. In fact, I would trade any of Marquette's players, with the exception of Burton's next three years, to have Dekker's last two.
I have heard that this will most likely be Dekker's last year at UW
Quote from: MuMark on August 21, 2014, 09:51:59 PM
I have heard that this will most likely be Dekker's last year at UW
Hopefully for him he develops this year. He'd be the standard Bucks pick who does absolutely nothing in the NBA. Which is why I say he hasn't developed like expected. He was supposed to be a can't miss guy. Someone who would be the best player on the floor every game. He simply is not that.
Quote from: MuMark on August 21, 2014, 09:51:59 PM
I have heard that this will most likely be Dekker's last year at UW
He will need to get a LOT better to play in the NBA. A lot.
Quote from: MU82 on August 21, 2014, 10:37:20 PM
He will need to get a LOT better to play in the NBA. A lot.
He will need to improve, but I expect him to be
at least a borderline lottery pick whenever he leaves. Players appear to develop more slowly under Bo because of some of the things he expects them to do.
Also, he has been measured at 6'9" several times this summer - including at the Lebron skills camp. I think Dekker, Looney and Rozier all have a chance to surprise and really move up the draft next year.
I see Chandler Parsons all over again when I watch Dekker. Chandler's 16.6 ppg, 5.5 reb, and 4 assists sounds like a reasonable place where Sam will end up in the NBA.
Quote from: wadesworld on August 21, 2014, 09:55:42 PM
Hopefully for him he develops this year. He'd be the standard Bucks pick who does absolutely nothing in the NBA. Which is why I say he hasn't developed like expected. He was supposed to be a can't miss guy. Someone who would be the best player on the floor every game. He simply is not that.
Only people who had unrealistically high expectations said that. Look around where he was rated. You'll see a couple NBA guys, but mostly people are are at or below his level.
Very similar to the Blue conversation of a few weeks ago. People's unrealistic expectations aren't his fault.
So... how about that Sam Hauser fellow?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 22, 2014, 07:09:49 AM
Only people who had unrealistically high expectations said that. Look around where he was rated. You'll see a couple NBA guys, but mostly people are are at or below his level.
Very similar to the Blue conversation of a few weeks ago. People's unrealistic expectations aren't his fault.
Every recruiting service had him rated a 5 star and every recruiting service other than ESPN (who had him at 17) had him as a top 15 recruit. I personally would hope for more than 12 and 6 from a guy rated that highly during his sophomore year. I also would expect that he be the best player on the team going into his upper class years, but an unranked, awkward big has developed into that.
Again, do I think he is a bad player? No. Do I think he has developed as much as he was expected to up to this point in his career, based on all the hype surrounding him coming into his college career? No. Will he still be in the NBA someday? Yup. But he is
not a guy who you have to fear every time he steps on the court, like many said he would be.
Blue was rated as a 4 star by Scout and ESPN and a 5 star by Rivals. He was ranked 34 and 31 by Scout and ESPN, respectively, and 24 by Rivals.
Quote from: brandx on August 22, 2014, 12:32:28 AM
He will need to improve, but I expect him to be at least a borderline lottery pick whenever he leaves. Players appear to develop more slowly under Bo because of some of the things he expects them to do.
Also, he has been measured at 6'9" several times this summer - including at the Lebron skills camp. I think Dekker, Looney and Rozier all have a chance to surprise and really move up the draft next year.
I see Chandler Parsons all over again when I watch Dekker. Chandler's 16.6 ppg, 5.5 reb, and 4 assists sounds like a reasonable place where Sam will end up in the NBA.
You know, brand, after reading what you say here and after thinking about it more, you're probably right. Heck, if he had declared this year, he might have been a first-rounder.
He has good size and very good athletic ability and a GM would have little trouble seeing potential in Dekker. And that's what they're drafting. Because of his body, he has considerably more potential than Vander ever did.
I like it when a reasoned argument can get me to change my mind!
Quote from: wadesworld on August 22, 2014, 09:04:11 AM
Every recruiting service had him rated a 5 star and every recruiting service other than ESPN (who had him at 17) had him as a top 15 recruit. I personally would hope for more than 12 and 6 from a guy rated that highly during his sophomore year. I also would expect that he be the best player on the team going into his upper class years, but an unranked, awkward big has developed into that.
Again, do I think he is a bad player? No. Do I think he has developed as much as he was expected to up to this point in his career, based on all the hype surrounding him coming into his college career? No. Will he still be in the NBA someday? Yup. But he is not a guy who you have to fear every time he steps on the court, like many said he would be.
Again, for the *third* time, it isn't his fault that people had unrealistic expectations.
And go back to your original post. You said he "leveled off." He hasn't.
You also said that he was supposed to be a "more athletic Steve Novak." Well he can't shoot like Novak (few can), but he certainly is more athletic.
He is better than anyone Marquette has on its roster, with the possible exception of Deonte Burton. (Ask me at the end of this year.) He is a very good player.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on August 22, 2014, 10:04:19 AM
He is better than anyone Marquette has on its roster, with the possible exception of Deonte Burton. (Ask me at the end of this year.) He is a very good player.
Agreed, but nobody here is talking about anyone on the Marquette roster as a lottery pick. And for the Parsons comparison, he was SEC player of the year and still was only a mid 2nd round pick. I think Dekker is very good, I think its probably in his best interests as a player with professional aspirations to leave after this year, but I don't see him as a lottery pick without a BIG jump this year. I do think he'll benefit from Kaminsky taking alot of attention off him, but was there ever a time last year that Dekker took over a big game?
According to media reports he has grown 2 inches and was the best player at the Lebron camp this summer......
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN Jul 10
Sam Dekker has been really, really good thus far here at LeBron James Camp. Consistently assertive, making shots, defending, passing, etc.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello Jul 10
Sam Dekker has consistently been the best player here through two days.
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Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS Jul 10
Sam Dekker was listed as 6-7/220 last year. He measured 6-9/229 earlier this week here in Vegas. Really looks terrific.
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Lots of folks here in Vegas commenting on how big Sam Dekker looks. Wisconsin staff told me he's grown 2 inches since the end of the season.
Quote from: MuMark on August 22, 2014, 10:51:23 AM
According to media reports he has grown 2 inches and was the best player at the Lebron camp this summer......
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN Jul 10
Sam Dekker has been really, really good thus far here at LeBron James Camp. Consistently assertive, making shots, defending, passing, etc.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello Jul 10
Sam Dekker has consistently been the best player here through two days.
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Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS Jul 10
Sam Dekker was listed as 6-7/220 last year. He measured 6-9/229 earlier this week here in Vegas. Really looks terrific.
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Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS Jul 10
Lots of folks here in Vegas commenting on how big Sam Dekker looks. Wisconsin staff told me he's grown 2 inches since the end of the season.
And he went head-to-head with Lebron part of the time. The added height was what prompted my comparison to Chandler (besides the similarity of their games - specifically how both can make things happen off the dribble.
Quote from: JWags85 on August 22, 2014, 10:49:31 AM
Agreed, but nobody here is talking about anyone on the Marquette roster as a lottery pick. And for the Parsons comparison, he was SEC player of the year and still was only a mid 2nd round pick. I think Dekker is very good, I think its probably in his best interests as a player with professional aspirations to leave after this year, but I don't see him as a lottery pick without a BIG jump this year. I do think he'll benefit from Kaminsky taking alot of attention off him, but was there ever a time last year that Dekker took over a big game?
I am guessing that he will be in the 20-30 range if he enters the NBA draft next year.
Quote from: MuMark on August 21, 2014, 05:13:30 PM
Steve Stricker is from Stevens Point?
Nope....
Keith Warren is from Stevens Point. Stricker is from Edgewood.
Stricker actually is from Edgerton...and he is the best professional golfer in the state
Quote from: MU82 on August 21, 2014, 10:37:20 PM
He will need to get a LOT better to play in the NBA. A lot.
I think most would agree that he probably would have been drafted somewhere between 25 and 45
this year. So, not really accurate at all.
Wadesworld, I think it's unfair to judge Dekker by his ppg. Wisconsin had a ton of scorers this past season. He won't score more than 15-16 this year. Doesn't say much about him as a player.
He will be better in the NBA where he can get out in the open court + having a better creator at PG
Mark Miller
@WisBBYearbook
Coaches from Marquette traveled to Stevens Point today to visit with 2016 WF Sam Hauser, the state's top-ranked junior.
8:22 PM - 16 Sep 2014
I saw #1 jr in Wisconsin and thought he would be a 5
Star. I'm surprised 247 has him at a 3 star
With 12 guys back the following year, Hauser is a nice addition, no pressure for him to play as a freshman which might be a problem. He will be 13th man probably. Good shooter, might
get some time against a zone.
Fisher/Heldt
Ellenson?
Burton/Levin/Ellenson
Wilson/ NN/ Dawson
Cheatham/JJJ/ Cohen
Sort of surprised they are not after a PF to take Taylors place on the roster? Anyone of size being looked at in 2016? Or is Wojo just trying to corral best player from Wisconsin
every year?
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 17, 2014, 12:10:38 AM
With 12 guys back the following year, Hauser is a nice addition, no pressure for him to play as a freshman which might be a problem. He will be 13th man probably. Good shooter, might
get some time against a zone.
Fisher/Heldt
Ellenson?
Burton/Levin/Ellenson
Wilson/ NN/ Dawson
Cheatham/JJJ/ Cohen
Sort of surprised they are not after a PF to take Taylors place on the roster? Anyone of size being looked at in 2016? Or is Wojo just trying to corral best player from Wisconsin
every year?
Hauser may not be a banger yet, but his 6"6 and still growing. Give him a year with Todd Smith and he could play a decent post...with a shooter's touch.
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 17, 2014, 12:10:38 AM
With 12 guys back the following year, Hauser is a nice addition, no pressure for him to play as a freshman which might be a problem. He will be 13th man probably. Good shooter, might
get some time against a zone.
Fisher/Heldt
Ellenson?
Burton/Levin/Ellenson
Wilson/ NN/ Dawson
Cheatham/JJJ/ Cohen
Sort of surprised they are not after a PF to take Taylors place on the roster? Anyone of size being looked at in 2016? Or is Wojo just trying to corral best player from Wisconsin
every year?
Levin is about the same size as STJ, and I think he'll probably play more 4 than 3, so he could fill that role. Bring in Sam for 2016 and get a head start on his brother Joey for 2018.
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 17, 2014, 12:10:38 AM
Fisher/Heldt
Ellenson
Burton/Levin/Ellenson, Hauser
Wilson/ NN/ Dawson
Cheatham/JJJ/ Cohen
There. Got rid of the question mark after Ellenson and added Hauser.
Final Four or bust!
Quote from: MU82 on September 17, 2014, 09:29:44 AM
There. Got rid of the question mark after Ellenson and added Hauser.
Final Four or bust!
The question mark has to stay until November signing date, anything can happen, and yes I have a very reliable source saying he is coming.
Quote from: BCHoopster on September 17, 2014, 09:36:50 AM
The question mark has to stay until November signing date, anything can happen, and yes I have a very reliable source saying he is coming.
Just being an optimist!!
Whether or not I remove the ? won't change his decision. Nor will inserting Ellenson in my screen name!
Quote from: Ellenson Lite on September 17, 2014, 09:05:42 AM
Levin is about the same size as STJ, and I think he'll probably play more 4 than 3, so he could fill that role. Bring in Sam for 2016 and get a head start on his brother Joey for 2018.
6'6" wings will no longer be
required to play the post once Wojo gets all his own guys in. Will it happen? Sure. But it won't be because we don't have other options to play down low.
Who's gonna be the first to rock some Hauser ink?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 17, 2014, 12:45:10 PM
Who's gonna be the first to rock some Hauser ink?
ZFB has the name "SAM" tatted on his tail; does that count?
Wojo had an in home visit with the Hauser family on Friday. Wojo is on Sam/Joe big time. Bo is not to this point. The parents and boys want to go to the same school. This will be interesting especially if Sam blows up and Bo shows up sometime next fall.
Duhhhhh, I screwed up while trying to change my signature. Is there anyway I can recover the evidence of my history on this site?
Quote from: muhoops1 on April 19, 2015, 01:08:25 AM
Wojo had an in home visit with the Hauser family on Friday. Wojo is on Sam/Joe big time. Bo is not to this point. The parents and boys want to go to the same school. This will be interesting especially if Sam blows up and Bo shows up sometime next fall.
Good news. I get the feeling around Madison that Bo is not concerned about current high school juniors, let alone high school freshmen, if you get my point.
Quote from: MUDPT on April 19, 2015, 08:15:43 AM
Good news. I get the feeling around Madison that Bo is not concerned about current high school juniors, let alone high school freshmen, if you get my point.
If this is true, I hope he coasts for a couple of years yet. It'd be hilarious if he destroyed the program he worked to build from scratch.
Quote from: MUDPT on April 19, 2015, 08:15:43 AM
Good news. I get the feeling around Madison that Bo is not concerned about current high school juniors, let alone high school freshmen, if you get my point.
I find this hilarious. Wisco was all over last weekends live period. It's pretty common knowledge they are going after Willie Jackson for their 2016 choice A wing.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 19, 2015, 09:08:47 AM
I find this hilarious. Wisco was all over last weekends live period. It's pretty common knowledge they are going after Willie Jackson for their 2016 choice A wing.
I didn't say their program, I said Bo.
Great, let them focus on someone else. I'm cool with Wojo spending his time with the Hausers
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 19, 2015, 08:49:07 AM
If this is true, I hope he coasts for a couple of years yet. It'd be hilarious if he destroyed the program he worked to build from scratch.
He isn't going to destroy his program. They will continue to get good to very good players and they will develop into a very good basketball team.
Their last few years have been better than 99% of college basketball. Their last 15 years, better than 95% (if not more)
His three top choices right now are; MU, Creighton, and UNI.
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
Just completed interview with Sam Hauser of WI Academy/Stevens Point. Top 3 at this point, Marquette, Creighton, UNI.
Will check in on Hauser this coming weekend.. WI Academy in the Twin Cities.
Quote from: PakunLee on April 19, 2015, 10:18:35 AM
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
Just completed interview with Sam Hauser of WI Academy/Stevens Point. Top 3 at this point, Marquette, Creighton, UNI.
Greg McDermott is going to the Hauser household sometime this week
It's always got to be Iowa State.
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
Iowa State extended a scholarship offer today to Stevens Point junior Sam Hauser.
What is Hauser's composite rating as of now? Maybe a 2-star?
I have only seen him once and thought he was just "OK". Are we going after him only because of little brother?
How do people like Jay Bee see him in the rankings after the summer? Can we anticipate a lot of on-court growth? Will he be a solid 3-star? Break into the top 200?
Quote from: brandx on April 19, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
What is Hauser's composite rating as of now? Maybe a 2-star?
I have only seen him once and thought he was just "OK". Are we going after him only because of little brother?
How do people like Jay Bee see him in the rankings after the summer? Can we anticipate a lot of on-court growth? Will he be a solid 3-star? Break into the top 200?
I personally think he is a carbon copy of Tim Jarmusz ( but a little more athletic) who was at Oshkosh West and then Wisconsin. The kid was a flawless 6'7 shooter who was not built at all. I personally think Hauser would be a fantastic redshirt option, and could turn into a nice contributor once he puts some weight on. Hopefully he doesn't turn into a bust either...
Quote from: brandx on April 19, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
What is Hauser's composite rating as of now? Maybe a 2-star?
I have only seen him once and thought he was just "OK". Are we going after him only because of little brother?
How do people like Jay Bee see him in the rankings after the summer? Can we anticipate a lot of on-court growth? Will he be a solid 3-star? Break into the top 200?
I think you're severely underselling Hauser. I think he'll definitely be a top-100 prospect with much bigger offers (Iowa State today, Virginia has been on him, other HM Midwest schools will offer I bet) than he's gotten now. But I'm just glad we've been on him the longest and Wojo is at the helm of his recruitment.
Quote from: mubb34 on April 19, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
I personally think he is a carbon copy of Tim Jarmusz ( but a little more athletic) who was at Oshkosh West and then Wisconsin. The kid was a flawless 6'7 shooter who was not built at all. I personally think Hauser would be a fantastic redshirt option, and could turn into a nice contributor once he puts some weight on. Hopefully he doesn't turn into a bust either...
That was exactly the guy I thought of, but didn't know if a lot of people here would remember him.
Quote from: mubb34 on April 19, 2015, 06:19:38 PM
I personally think he is a carbon copy of Tim Jarmusz ( but a little more athletic) who was at Oshkosh West and then Wisconsin. The kid was a flawless 6'7 shooter who was not built at all. I personally think Hauser would be a fantastic redshirt option, and could turn into a nice contributor once he puts some weight on. Hopefully he doesn't turn into a bust either...
He's like Jarmusz in the sense that he always knows the right play and makes it, but he's far more polished in all offensive aspects.
Quote from: brandx on April 19, 2015, 07:01:55 PM
That was exactly the guy I thought of, but didn't know if a lot of people here would remember him.
Born and raised in Oshkosh. He was one hell of a HS basketball player.
Quote from: MuLeegle1090 on April 19, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
He's like Jarmusz in the sense that he always knows the right play and makes it, but he's far more polished in all offensive aspects.
Yep. Jarmiisz was not nearly as skilled or smooth. Jarmusz was more like Zak Showalter, though bigger.
Saw Hauser in State title game. Jarmusz is a bad comparison. I'd throw out names like Brian Wardle, Kellen Dunham, Nik Stauskas, a shorter Mike Dunleavy Jr...great shooter, good ball handler, can slash a bit, smart passer, brings the ball up as a PG for his HS team...his rebounding, shot blocking and hustle kinda remind me of Mike Bargen.
Forget where Sam is ranked now. He's top 100 good in my view, maybe top 50. I think it speaks to Wojo's evaluation ability that he was on Hauser last year. Watch Sam blow up this summer. Joey is a nice prospect but has a long way to go to catch up to his older brother. Right now I'd say Sam is the "Henry" and Joey is the "Wally".
Iowa State, just go away. >:(
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on April 19, 2015, 09:09:18 PM
Iowa State, just go away. >:(
I wouldn't worry about Iowa State until a guy actually signs here.
Quote from: Lee's Headband on April 19, 2015, 08:51:46 PM
Saw Hauser in State title game. Jarmusz is a bad comparison. I'd throw out names like Brian Wardle, Kellen Dunham, Nik Stauskas, a shorter Mike Dunleavy Jr...great shooter, good ball handler, can slash a bit, smart passer, brings the ball up as a PG for his HS team...his rebounding, shot blocking and hustle kinda remind me of Mike Bargen.
Forget where Sam is ranked now. He's top 100 good in my view, maybe top 50. I think it speaks to Wojo's evaluation ability that he was on Hauser last year. Watch Sam blow up this summer. Joey is a nice prospect but has a long way to go to catch up to his older brother. Right now I'd say Sam is the "Henry" and Joey is the "Wally".
Well, he's no Stauskas or Dunleavy - not in anybody's world.
Quote from: brandx on April 19, 2015, 11:09:25 PM
Well, he's no Stauskas or Dunleavy - not in anybody's world.
No, he might not be, but both are pros. What I saw was a kid who was a junior who could shoot the ball, something that Sandy, JJJ, Taylor, Derrick and others who could not. If Ellenson stays around 2 years there might be some good looks out there for him to knock down some open shots. Something MU has been lacking. He has two more years before he even steps on the
court, more than enough time to put on some much needed weight. He can play. Start looking at it, 5 or 6 years from now.
Quote from: brandx on April 19, 2015, 11:09:25 PM
Well, he's no Stauskas or Dunleavy - not in anybody's world.
I'll admit I should have said a poor man's Dunleavy. The high bball IQ, passing skills, and shooting ability are qualities both Dunleavy and Hauser have but Dunleavy has them at a higher level. I still say he's got the hustle and grit of Mike Bargen, the shooting and movement off screens of Kellen Dunham, and some passing/bball IQ skills of a poor man's Dunleavy. I think Sam is going to be a very good player and feel his rating is lower than it should be.
He can be a sharpshooting sniper off the bench as a frosh and grow into a star by his senior year. A lot of people on this board are under selling him but he's going to be very good. To compare him to Jarmusz or say he's just being recruited to get Joey are mistakes. Sam Hauser is legit all by himself. I want him as much as any player in this class, including Coffey and Winston. I want him way more than Kostas A. who looks like a bit of a project. Maybe I'm way off base but I really see Hauser blowing up this summer and the Iowa State offer might be the start of that.
Quote from: Lee's Headband on April 20, 2015, 07:43:29 AM
I'll admit I should have said a poor man's Dunleavy. The high bball IQ, passing skills, and shooting ability are qualities both Dunleavy and Hauser have but Dunleavy has them at a higher level. I still say he's got the hustle and grit of Mike Bargen, the shooting and movement off screens of Kellen Dunham, and some passing/bball IQ skills of a poor man's Dunleavy. I think Sam is going to be a very good player and feel his rating is lower than it should be.
He can be a sharpshooting sniper off the bench as a frosh and grow into a star by his senior year. A lot of people on this board are under selling him but he's going to be very good. To compare him to Jarmusz or say he's just being recruited to get Joey are mistakes. Sam Hauser is legit all by himself. I want him as much as any player in this class, including Coffey and Winston. I want him way more than Kostas A. who looks like a bit of a project. Maybe I'm way off base but I really see Hauser blowing up this summer and the Iowa State offer might be the start of that.
Generally, I agree except I think that wanting him as much as Winston is likely overselling him.
One thing I like about Hauser is he is likely a guy that can be a contributor for four years. He may never be an out and out star, but he's the kind of guy that will help you win a lot of games. Having solid four year players is just as important as having McDonald's kids.
Quote from: LittleWade on April 20, 2015, 09:35:54 AM
Generally, I agree except I think that wanting him as much as Winston is likely overselling him.
Perhaps but we could really use a shooter and Sam Hauser is an elite shooter. I think he's been flying a bit under the radar. That's why I mentioned Nik Stauskas, who went from being ranked in the 70-80 range to the NBA in two years. Not saying Sam will have quite that meteoric rise but I like him a lot.
I'd project his career arc like this:
Freshman sharpshooter as 8th or 9th man playing 10-15 min per game.
Sophomore 6th man or possible starter playing 20-25 min per game.
Junior starter playing 25-28 min per game.
Senior star player playing 28-32 min per game.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2015, 09:42:16 AM
One thing I like about Hauser is he is likely a guy that can be a contributor for four years. He may never be an out and out star, but he's the kind of guy that will help you win a lot of games. Having solid four year players is just as important as having McDonald's kids.
I agree with this. Feel the same way about Heldt.
Quote from: Lee's Headband on April 20, 2015, 09:57:33 AM
Perhaps but we could really use a shooter and Sam Hauser is an elite shooter. I think he's been flying a bit under the radar. That's why I mentioned Nik Stauskas, who went from being ranked in the 70-80 range to the NBA in two years. Not saying Sam will have quite that meteoric rise but I like him a lot.
I'd project his career arc like this:
Freshman sharpshooter as 8th or 9th man playing 10-15 min per game.
Sophomore 6th man or possible starter playing 20-25 min per game.
Junior starter playing 25-28 min per game.
Senior star player playing 28-32 min per game.
I hope you are wrong. I just think that if he is our "star" during his senior year, the team will be in trouble.
That isn't to knock him, either. He could develop physically and be a very good player. I don't see him as a guy who leads a high major on a run.
He also lacks the quickness and shooting ability of Stauskas.
Hopefully I am proven wrong over the next several years.
Quote from: brandx on April 20, 2015, 12:10:06 PM
I hope you are wrong. I just think that if he is our "star" during his senior year, the team will be in trouble.
That isn't to knock him, either. He could develop physically and be a very good player. I don't see him as a guy who leads a high major on a run.
He also lacks the quickness and shooting ability of Stauskas.
Hopefully I am proven wrong over the next several years.
He definitely lacks the quickness of Stauskas but not the shooting ability. He shot 53% on three pointers this season on something like over 5 attempts per game. He's one of the best shooters in the country.
Quote from: Lee's Headband on April 19, 2015, 08:51:46 PM
Watch Sam blow up this summer. Joey is a nice prospect but has a long way to go to catch up to his older brother. Right now I'd say Sam is the "Henry" and Joey is the "Wally".
I would say Sam Hauser will be a top 100 guy. His team dominates in high school, so much like Diamond Stone, watching him in HS isn't the best barometer in my opinion. I personally think he is far superior to Jarmusz -- they might look like each other in HS games, but once they hit the circuit, you really see if they belong. In AAU, Hauser is a guy who the other team will put an athletic defender on, and he just waits. If it's not there, he waits some more. He doesn't force anything. Unlike some of today's prima donna players who only work with the ball in their hands, Hauser works off the ball and is constantly in motion. The cutting, back screening, back doors, pick and rolls, pick and pop are always in play. My only knock would be he isn't as athletic as others. Worked out pretty well for Lachance, and Hauser is 6 inches taller. Just my opinion.
Judging Joey Hauser is tough and I don't know if I agree that he has a long way to go to catch up to his brother. Unlike his brother, Joey hasn't played with his grade for two years -- he played up two years last year, and one year this year. He would destroy it in 2018 and everybody would be talking about him. Wait until AAU ball his junior summer -- my hunch is that he leaves Wisconsin Academy and comes back to WI Swing. They have two good prospects from Waunakee (Listau and Steffen), plus solid guards from Burlington (Klug) and Appleton Xavier (Plamman). That would be a great team with the addition of Hauser. I believe the dads, Hauser, Listau and Steffen all played college ball together in MN.
I'll be up in MN for the NY2LA this weekend as well. Love this time of year.
Quote from: brandx on April 20, 2015, 12:10:06 PM
I hope you are wrong. I just think that if he is our "star" during his senior year, the team will be in trouble.
That isn't to knock him, either. He could develop physically and be a very good player. I don't see him as a guy who leads a high major on a run.
He also lacks the quickness and shooting ability of Stauskas.
Hopefully I am proven wrong over the next several years.
Clearly we disagree. I may very well be wrong. After all I only played JV HS basketball. But Wojo offered Hauser last year and several posters think he's one of Wojo's priorities along with Coffey and Winston. If I could pose a rhetorical question, do you really think Wojo would make "the next Tim Jarmusz" a recruiting priority?
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on April 20, 2015, 12:21:16 PM
Judging Joey Hauser is tough and I don't know if I agree that he has a long way to go to catch up to his brother. Unlike his brother, Joey hasn't played with his grade for two years -- he played up two years last year, and one year this year. He would destroy it in 2018 and everybody would be talking about him. Wait until AAU ball his junior summer -- my hunch is that he leaves Wisconsin Academy and comes back to WI Swing. They have two good prospects from Waunakee (Listau and Steffen), plus solid guards from Burlington (Klug) and Appleton Xavier (Plamman). That would be a great team with the addition of Hauser. I believe the dads, Hauser, Listau and Steffen all played college ball together in MN.
I'll be up in MN for the NY2LA this weekend as well. Love this time of year.
I was strictly comparing junior year Sam to freshman year Joey. The two year difference shows in Sam's more refined skill level but I do like Joey's tools. But that is often the case when comparing a HS junior to a HS frosh.
It is possible that in two years Joey is as good or even better than Sam is now. But he could just as easily level off. Will it be a case of Joey peaking early or will he progress to match, perhaps even surpass, Sam? Time will tell.
Quote from: Lee's Headband on April 20, 2015, 12:23:39 PM
Clearly we disagree. I may very well be wrong. After all I only played JV HS basketball. But Wojo offered Hauser last year and several posters think he's one of Wojo's priorities along with Coffey and Winston. If I could pose a rhetorical question, do you really think Wojo would make "the next Tim Jarmusz" a recruiting priority?
I hope you are the one that is correct, Headband.
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
· 36m 36 minutes ago
Indiana, Nebraska and Minnesota all beginning to show interest in Stevens Point junior Sam Hauser. May watch this weekend in Minneapolis.
Odd Wardle secured an in home visit this week also.
Interesting the Hauser family is throwing Bradley a bone. Was UWGB given the same interest from the family, just curious.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 20, 2015, 05:38:15 PM
Odd Wardle secured an in home visit this week also.
Interesting the Hauser family is throwing Bradley a bone. Was UWGB given the same interest from the family, just curious.
My guess is that the family already had a relationship with Wardle and gave him this out of respect for that relationship.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 20, 2015, 05:38:15 PM
Odd Wardle secured an in home visit this week also.
Interesting the Hauser family is throwing Bradley a bone. Was UWGB given the same interest from the family, just curious.
Wardle could argue that he was a similar kind of player and would best know how to maximize Hauser's ability.
Quote from: LittleWade on April 20, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
Wardle could argue that he was a similar kind of player and would best know how to maximize Hauser's ability.
Understood. I was more asking does this mean UWGB would have gotten an in home visit with the Hauser's had Wardle stayed at UWGB? More or less just curious since that would have been huge for UWGB program even getting an in home.
According to Mark Miller Virginia offered Sam tonight.
https://mobile.twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/591815947427647488
I loved Sam's game the first time I saw him play. He struck me as a Bo Ryan type recruit and I think Bo is making a big mistake not recruiting him. Now, that Creighton is in top 3 I expect him to go there. Sam fits well in their three point shooting style. Sam not choosing MU, when we were easily the best offer out there tells me he is not sold on us. It is the opposite of Canisus(sp). I think we have a better shot at him, since he has not jumped on Michigan St.'s offer.
Quote from: bilsu on April 25, 2015, 12:07:27 AM
I loved Sam's game the first time I saw him play. He struck me as a Bo Ryan type recruit and I think Bo is making a big mistake not recruiting him. Now, that Creighton is in top 3 I expect him to go there. Sam fits well in their three point shooting style. Sam not choosing MU, when they were easily the best offer out there tells me he is not sold on us.
Yeah I don't agree with any of this at all, especially the him going to Creighton part. We are the team to beat. He was obviously gonna play his options out and see what happened. He's done so and has been rewarded with some great offers. But Wojo has been in on him hardest for over a year now. I'm still confident we land him.
Quote from: bilsu on April 25, 2015, 12:07:27 AM
I loved Sam's game the first time I saw him play. He struck me as a Bo Ryan type recruit and I think Bo is making a big mistake not recruiting him. Now, that Creighton is in top 3 I expect him to go there. Sam fits well in their three point shooting style. Sam not choosing MU, when we were easily the best offer out there tells me he is not sold on us. It is the opposite of Canisus(sp). I think we have a better shot at him, since he has not jumped on Michigan St.'s offer.
Hauser won't end up at Creighton. It will be Marquette, Wisconsin, or Virginia. Still think it'll be Marquette.
MU offered at the end of his sophomore year. I really don't think the fact that he didn't immediately jump on the offer means anything about his level of interest.
Quote from: bilsu on April 25, 2015, 12:07:27 AM
I loved Sam's game the first time I saw him play. He struck me as a Bo Ryan type recruit and I think Bo is making a big mistake not recruiting him. Now, that Creighton is in top 3 I expect him to go there. Sam fits well in their three point shooting style. Sam not choosing MU, when we were easily the best offer out there tells me he is not sold on us. It is the opposite of Canisus(sp). I think we have a better shot at him, since he has not jumped on Michigan St.'s offer.
MU is the team to beat for Hauser
MU has virtually zero shot at Winston
Watched Sam last night. Bennett was front and center. Wojo & uw-madison's AC Close were on hand as well.
Kevin Huerter is right up there for Wojo and staff. Had 21 in a win over the Oakland Soldiers this morning.
PLEASE SAM PICK MARQUETTE.
Sam, Huerter and a PF would be my wish list.
I like Sam. I've got a good feeling about Wojo landing him. I like his game.
Quote from: thehammock on April 25, 2015, 12:46:57 PM
Sam, Huerter and a PF would be my wish list.
This is pretty much my exact list as well.
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Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 · 3h 3 hours ago
Steve Wojchiechowski, Ben Jacobson, Indiana State, Iowa, Butler, Nebraska watched 2016 WI Academy wing Sam Hauser #NY2LAEXTRAVAGANZA2K15
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 · 17h 17 hours ago
Unreal feel and skill with Sam Hauser. Scores at all 3 levels, can distribute, makes all the right reads. Has the it factor.
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook · 17h 17 hours ago
Steve Wojciechowski and Tony Bennett among the coaches watching Sam Hauser at WI Academy -- Kostroski in Minneapolis.
Quote from: DUNKS45 on April 25, 2015, 01:05:07 PM
I like Sam. I've got a good feeling about Wojo landing him. I like his game.
Big daddy ain't got nothin' on Dunks.
I know Winston and Coffey are big-time targets for us, and it's tough to speculate because Coffey isn't able to play yet, but it looks like Hauser has emerged as the main target for Wojo. Like with Henry last year, it sounds like Wojo is going to literally every WA game to see both Sam and Joey play. Yeah he's gotten ISU and UVA offers and has garnered a lot of interest lately but it sounds like Wojo is the only constant at every game of theirs. Clearly he's going all in and I'm optimistic about our chances.
Our fingers are crossed that Sam joins Marquette. Our son taught him in the classroom and said that Sam is excellent student with great parents. He will be a great asset for MU.
ny2la saying that Gonzaga has interest in Hauser
Quote from: Skitch on April 24, 2015, 11:41:35 PM
According to Mark Miller Virginia offered Sam tonight.
https://mobile.twitter.com/WisBBYearbook/status/591815947427647488
So much for being a two star guy. With the interest Hauser is now drawing, Recruiting gurus are going to have to rethink their evaluations.
I know the Hauser parents love Wojo. Boys grew up Badger fans, but parents are not alumni so we have that going for us. I believe MU is the school to beat unless a blue blood shows up.....
Quote from: LittleWade on April 25, 2015, 05:31:42 PM
So much for being a two star guy. With the interest Hauser is now drawing, Recruiting gurus are going to have to rethink their evaluations.
I think Sam will be top 100 by the end of summer. Top 50 if he keeps playing like this.
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Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 · 33m 33 minutes ago
Sam Hauser is a star in the making. Hopefully early signee. Hearing most from Creighton, Marquette, and Virginia
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 · 1h 1 hour ago
Sam Hauser up to Same Hauser things. Unbelievable skillset and iq. One of the most Underrated players in America. Will only get better
Corey Evans @coreyevans_10 · 17m 17 minutes ago
Not saying he's Gordon Hayward, but sitting back, Sam Hauser has shades of playmaking wing. Can be as good as wants to be. Workers approach
Yep, carbon copy of Tim Jarmusz.
BTW, I'm all in. #screennamechange
Quote from: Hauser's Headband on April 26, 2015, 09:44:50 AM
BTW, I'm all in. #screennamechange
Now he's going top fifty
for sure.
No doubt that Hauser is a "top 100" guy.
If I had to rank him, I'd guess he'd fall somewhere between 40-70 for me on any given day...
But I think with a lot of guys in the 40-70 range in any given year.. you have some that will rise up, but you have a fair amount who never come through as much as they *could*...
Hauser to me isn't likely to be a disappointment relative to other examples over the years of guys who "don't quite pan out." He's too solid. At a minimum, a good player... would be pleased with him as an addition to the Warriors.
He's gotten bigger, but still could add a lot of strength which should only help his game.
I'd take him (pause)
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 26, 2015, 11:04:53 AM
No doubt that Hauser is a "top 100" guy.
If I had to rank him, I'd guess he'd fall somewhere between 40-70 for me on any given day...
But I think with a lot of guys in the 40-70 range in any given year.. you have some that will rise up, but you have a fair amount who never come through as much as they *could*...
Hauser to me isn't likely to be a disappointment relative to other examples over the years of guys who "don't quite pan out." He's too solid. At a minimum, a good player... would be pleased with him as an addition to the Warriors.
He's gotten bigger, but still could add a lot of strength which should only help his game.
I'd take him (pause)
Thanks for the report. Any other notables there?
You should have brought Wojo to the WC yesterday. Killer chilaquilles. They're off the menu, but you can still get them. Drizzled with El Yucatecca habanero...nummy.
Quote from: real chili 83 on April 26, 2015, 11:11:46 AM
Thanks for the report. Any other notables there?
You should have brought Wojo to the WC yesterday. Killer chilaquilles. They're off the menu, but you can still get them. Drizzled with El Yucatecca habanero...nummy.
Rough time getting out of bed early yesterday... need WC soon though.
There isn't a ton at the tourney... but... and not for MU, but Ryan Kriener may have caught my eye more than anyone else.. 2016 big... traditional, but just produced and produced... 6'8" from Iowa.
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook 11s12 seconds ago
Stevens Point junior Sam Hauser (6-6) plans to take an official visit to Virginia next weekend. He received an offer from Virginia last week
I believe his intention is to commit this summer or fall before the season starts....Hopefully, Wojo gets him last and lands him.
Quote from: MuMark on May 01, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook 11s12 seconds ago
Stevens Point junior Sam Hauser (6-6) plans to take an official visit to Virginia next weekend. He received an offer from Virginia last week
Virginia has alot to offer. Should be very interesting to see how his recruiting plays out.
Any y'all got the heebie jeebies 'bout this one?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 01, 2015, 01:49:48 PM
Any y'all got the heebie jeebies 'bout this one?
A little bit. UVa is probably Marquette's toughest competition for him.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 01, 2015, 01:49:48 PM
Any y'all got the heebie jeebies 'bout this one?
Considering I've never seen the tiny tot play ball, no.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 01, 2015, 01:49:48 PM
Any y'all got the heebie jeebies 'bout this one?
Actually, no. You've got to compete against someone. I have a feeling that he'll want to stay closer to home. No justification, just a feeling.
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
No offer for either yet, but Wisconsin has reached out to 2016 standouts Trev Anderson and Sam Hauser of Stevens Point in recent days.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 05, 2015, 03:29:26 PM
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
No offer for either yet, but Wisconsin has reached out to 2016 standouts Trev Anderson and Sam Hauser of Stevens Point in recent days.
Here is the orginal tweet that mark miller took that from:
@WiscoAcademy: University of Wisconsin is showing interest in WA 17U Sam Hauser (@Big_Smooth10) & Trevor Anderson (@TreMamBa15) this week. #WABFam
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on May 05, 2015, 04:37:16 PM
Here is the orginal tweet that mark miller took that from:
@WiscoAcademy: University of Wisconsin is showing interest in WA 17U Sam Hauser (@Big_Smooth10) & Trevor Anderson (@TreMamBa15) this week. #WABFam
Mark's tweet was first. 3:28 PM.
Wisco Academy's was at 3:31 PM. After they retweeted Mark's.
Quote from: Pakuni on May 05, 2015, 03:29:26 PM
Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook
No offer for either yet, but Wisconsin has reached out to 2016 standouts Trev Anderson and Sam Hauser of Stevens Point in recent days.
Just looked at 247 and who else does he have an offer from........ Iowa State. Do they just look at who we are interested in and say if they are good enough for Marquette they are good enough for me? :)
Quote from: MUMonster03 on May 06, 2015, 10:00:08 AM
Just looked at 247 and who else does he have an offer from........ Iowa State. Do they just look at who we are interested in and say if they are good enough for Marquette they are good enough for me? :)
I've half-jokingly thought this. :D
Been down so long it looks like up to me.
DevonTe Brooks @DBrooksSBN 9m9 minutes ago
2016 Sam Hauser(@Big_Smooth10) will take officials to UVA, Marquette, and Creighton. Virginia is his first on Saturday.
if he's already taking officials he probably wants to make a decision soon. Hopefully that helps us before too many other schools get involved.
Quote from: Litehouse on May 08, 2015, 05:43:21 AM
if he's already taking officials he probably wants to make a decision soon. Hopefully that helps us before too many other schools get involved.
Great point. Sam should visit these places. It'll help cement his decision. Hope he chooses us.
Quote from: jsglow on May 08, 2015, 07:37:03 AM
Great point. Sam should visit these places. It'll help cement his decision. Hope he chooses us.
He has room for two more official visits.
Quote from: jsglow on May 08, 2015, 07:37:03 AM
Great point. Sam should visit these places. It'll help cement his decision. Hope he chooses us.
Lot of talk that he will be an early signer. Likely wants to get it all out of the way. His parents seem like pretty swell people too, so that's good that we probably won't have to go through the overbearing parent phase that some recruits bring.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on May 08, 2015, 09:38:59 AM
His parents seem like pretty swell people too, so that's good that we probably won't have to go through the overbearing parent phase that some recruits bring.
I'm sure the Badger fans will find a way to trash his parents if he commits to MU.
Quote from: Litehouse on May 08, 2015, 09:48:57 AM
I'm sure the Badger fans will find a way to trash his parents if he commits to MU.
Have they even offered yet? Or let me guess, he doesn't have the grades...
Quote from: frozena pizza on May 08, 2015, 11:10:35 AM
Have they even offered yet? Or let me guess, he doesn't have the grades...
They haven't offered yet. Seems like they're waiting to see what Maverick Rowan does first. When last UW reached out, it seemed like they were saying "wait and we'll tell you if we can find room."
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 08, 2015, 11:15:17 AM
They haven't offered yet. Seems like they're waiting to see what Maverick Rowan does first. When last UW reached out, it seemed like they were saying "wait and we'll tell you if we can find room."
Call me old fashioned, but that's sort of like the "if my first prom choice says no, I'd like to go with you." Screw that. Come to the place that wanted you from the start in Marquette.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on May 10, 2015, 11:55:54 AM
Call me old fashioned, but that's sort of like the "if my first prom choice says no, I'd like to go with you." Screw that. Come to the place that wanted you from the start in Marquette.
I agree, and I think that will be what ultimately makes Sam's decision for him. At this point, I really think it's either Marquette or Virginia, and I don't think it will take long to find out which it is.
It's exciting to think about cheering for a Marquette team featuring so many great state high school players. Sam would be an excellent fit. Hope he grows a couple inches this year.
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on May 10, 2015, 01:58:13 PM
It's exciting to think about cheering for a Marquette team featuring so many great state high school players. Sam would be an excellent fit. Hope he grows a couple inches this year.
That's what she said
Andy Van Vliet committed to UW. This means that they have only one scholarship opening for 2016.
http://wisconsin.247sports.com/Bolt/Badgers-Pick-up-Van-Vliet-37216355
My guess is that Sam won't be an option for them since my guess is that they will be looking for for a point guard.
Good news for us. I'd be thrilled if we can get Sam.
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Fingers crossed for good weather!
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on May 11, 2015, 12:30:38 PM
Fingers crossed for good weather!
While I get that you're most likely referring to psychological studies that measure decisions based on day-of-visit weather, I think the whole "UCLA weather advantage" thing is garbage. Basketball and, yes, being students, takes up 95 pct of these kids' lives. I remember being on a Tampa, Florida vacay years ago, and the day of the MU-USF game was so nice, I kept finding my mind wandering about playing golf or going to the beach rather than attending the game, and this would normally be blasphemy for for me, as a hyper avid MU HOOPS junkie. I think Wisconsin weather is actually an advantage for Marquette recruiting: "Hey, come here, and the distraction level is minimalized." Ask Jimmy, Dwyane, Wes, Jae, Steve how much weather meant as a factor in their college choice.
Quote from: ShootinOutWallsofHeartach on May 11, 2015, 01:32:15 PM
While I get that you're most likely referring to psychological studies that measure decisions based on day-of-visit weather, I think the whole "UCLA weather advantage" thing is garbage. Basketball and, yes, being students, takes up 95 pct of these kids' lives. I remember being on a Tampa, Florida vacay years ago, and the day of the MU-USF game was so nice, I kept finding my mind wandering about playing golf or going to the beach rather than attending the game, and this would normally be blasphemy for for me, as a hyper avid MU HOOPS junkie. I think Wisconsin weather is actually an advantage for Marquette recruiting: "Hey, come here, and the distraction level is minimalized." Ask Jimmy, Dwyane, Wes, Jae, Steve how much weather meant as a factor in their college choice.
As Wojo was asked about the weather, did he not say, "Basketball is played inside". Weather is not a factor as much as you think, playing time, nice practice facility, TV are much more
important and lastly, the biggest question they probably want to hear, can you get me to the NBA?
Quote from: ShootinOutWallsofHeartach on May 11, 2015, 01:32:15 PM
While I get that you're most likely referring to psychological studies that measure decisions based on day-of-visit weather, I think the whole "UCLA weather advantage" thing is garbage. Basketball and, yes, being students, takes up 95 pct of these kids' lives. I remember being on a Tampa, Florida vacay years ago, and the day of the MU-USF game was so nice, I kept finding my mind wandering about playing golf or going to the beach rather than attending the game, and this would normally be blasphemy for for me, as a hyper avid MU HOOPS junkie. I think Wisconsin weather is actually an advantage for Marquette recruiting: "Hey, come here, and the distraction level is minimalized." Ask Jimmy, Dwyane, Wes, Jae, Steve how much weather meant as a factor in their college choice.
I think he was joking. Sam IS from Wisconsin, after all.
Quote from: brandx on May 11, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
I think he was joking. Sam IS from Wisconsin, after all.
Correct!
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on May 11, 2015, 02:23:51 PM
Correct!
Geez I feel stupid. I'm the guy who sees the "Do Not Sit on Fence" sign at my local municipal golf course and always see the self-actualizing/ political meaning over the intended meaning. And yet I couldn't spot your excellent sarcasm, even knowing Sam is a proud Cheesehead. DUH, I'm a real Chumbalone on that one!!
QuoteSam Hauser is almost at the finish line. The Stevens Point (Wis.) small forward took an official visit to Virginia last week and is set to take one this weekend to Marquette. Scout caught up with Hauser this week to discuss his visit with the Cavaliers and where he stands in his recruitment.
http://virginia.scout.com/story/1546414-hauser-recaps-uva-visit
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on May 14, 2015, 10:44:32 PM
http://virginia.scout.com/story/1546414-hauser-recaps-uva-visit
Virginia sounds great, and the whole thing could come down to whether he wants to stay near home or if he wants the experience of living away from home for a few years.
We always think the prospect of playing at home is a huge advantage in recruiting, but some kids want to experience other parts of the country -- and do it on somebody else's dime.
It would be hard to blame him no matter what he decides.
Quote from: MU82 on May 14, 2015, 11:11:48 PM
Virginia sounds great, and the whole thing could come down to whether he wants to stay near home or if he wants the experience of living away from home for a few years.
We always think the prospect of playing at home is a huge advantage in recruiting, but some kids want to experience other parts of the country -- and do it on somebody else's dime.
It would be hard to blame him no matter what he decides.
I'd encourage the kid to Charlottesville. Ridiculously beautiful part of the country with a prestigious University that has finally caught its potential to win on the court with TB in charge. Hauser has a great opportunity with the Cavs and should snatch it.
I'm as partial to MU as it gets, but Charlottesville and UVA vs. Milwaukee and MU is no contest. Not even close.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 15, 2015, 09:29:21 AM
I'd encourage the kid to Charlottesville. Ridiculously beautiful part of the country with a prestigious University that has finally caught its potential to win on the court with TB in charge. Hauser has a great opportunity with the Cavs and should snatch it.
Quote from: Boone on May 15, 2015, 09:42:55 AM
I'm as partial to MU as it gets, but Charlottesville and UVA vs. Milwaukee and MU is no contest. Not even close.
More self-hatred from MU fans.
Seriously I have been to both places. Charlottesville is nice. But some people prefer the urban environment. And Marquette gives you a very nice education to succeed in society today. He should go where he is most comfortable.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 15, 2015, 09:47:53 AM
More self-hatred from MU fans.
Seriously I have been to both places. Charlottesville is nice. But some people prefer the urban environment. And Marquette gives you a very nice education to succeed in society today. He should go where he is most comfortable.
No kidding. And that's not even mentioning the basketball side of things. How many NBA teams are practicing at UVA during the season?
They've had a great run with Bennett, but MU shouldn't be intimidated by Virginia.
Quote from: Utile et Dulce on May 14, 2015, 10:44:32 PM
http://virginia.scout.com/story/1546414-hauser-recaps-uva-visit
The Stevens Point connections/familiarity give UVA a nice selling point. Plus, TB is one of the nicest guys around and as far as coaching he is stern but fair. He has his father's Xs and Os, but has a much sunnier disposition that players seem to like. The other side of this to me is Paul Jesperson -- he was a very highly rated 6' 6" shooter/wing from Merrill, WI who got a ride to UVA. I don't think TB recruited him, but he did coach him. He was almost identical to Hauser (size, athleticism), and it didn't work out. I think Jesperson was one of the top 3 recruits in WI (could have been #1) in like 2011. Jesperson transferred and now plays/played at Northern Iowa. I never saw Jesperson play in HS, but just by looking at him back then, he looked much weaker (almost fragile?) than Hauser (and Hauser doesn't look that strong at this point either). But he was a wissports top prospect. It seems like TB is making him a priority, so it may not matter, but I'm sure they are aware that very recently a 6' 6" shooter/wing from WI went there and ended up transferring under Bennett.
Bennett did recruit Jesperson. He has been at UVa since 2009, and Jesperson arrived there in 2011. The connection was Brad Soderburg's brother is the head coach at Merrill.
I'd say Hauser is more athletic and better off the dribble. Granted I'm comparing them off of my limited viewing of them at the State tourney. But Hauser jumped out at me more than Jesperson did. By that I mean I saw more tools in Hauser that should translate to the high major level.
Quote from: Hauser's Headband on May 15, 2015, 10:09:21 AM
I'd say Hauser is more athletic and better of the dribble. Granted I'm comparing them off of my limited viewing of them at the State tourney. But Hauser jumped out at me more than Jesperson did. By that I mean I saw more tools in Hauser that should translate to the high major level.
I've seen Hauser play a ton, but I never saw Jesperson. Perhaps his high ranking was due to a weaker recruiting class. I tried to look back in the archives of Wisports player ranking and it only goes back to 2012/13, but holy crap did that class have the D1 players, looks to be 15 guys. Jesperson's brothers was #15 to Pepperdine, btw.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 15, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
I've seen Hauser play a ton, but I never saw Jesperson. Perhaps his high ranking was due to a weaker recruiting class. I tried to look back in the archives of disports player ranking and it only goes back to 2012/13, but holy crap did that class have the D1 players, looks to be 15 guys. Jesperson's brothers was #15 to Pepperdine, btw.
Mr. Basketball that year in Wisconsin was Nimrod Hilliard...if that tells you anything.
Saw them both play--No comparison--S.HAUSER!
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 15, 2015, 09:58:50 AM
The Stevens Point connections/familiarity give UVA a nice selling point. Plus, TB is one of the nicest guys around and as far as coaching he is stern but fair. He has his father's Xs and Os, but has a much sunnier disposition that players seem to like. The other side of this to me is Paul Jesperson -- he was a very highly rated 6' 6" shooter/wing from Merrill, WI who got a ride to UVA. I don't think TB recruited him, but he did coach him. He was almost identical to Hauser (size, athleticism), and it didn't work out. I think Jesperson was one of the top 3 recruits in WI (could have been #1) in like 2011. Jesperson transferred and now plays/played at Northern Iowa. I never saw Jesperson play in HS, but just by looking at him back then, he looked much weaker (almost fragile?) than Hauser (and Hauser doesn't look that strong at this point either). But he was a wissports top prospect. It seems like TB is making him a priority, so it may not matter, but I'm sure they are aware that very recently a 6' 6" shooter/wing from WI went there and ended up transferring under Bennett.
I thought of Jesperson as a shooter. Hauser is a lot more. Similar "look" to them, but Hauser is a lot better, more athletic, more versatile, etc.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 15, 2015, 05:01:23 PM
I thought of Jesperson as a shooter. Hauser is a lot more. Similar "look" to them, but Hauser is a lot better, more athletic, more versatile, etc.
That is exactly what I thought, but I never saw Jesperson actually play. Going to watch the 15U feature game tonight, WI Playground vs. Howard Pulley Black (MN). We may eventually play the loser down the road in the bracket. What do you know about Howard Pulley 15U Black, Jay Bee? Is Sage Booker on that team?
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 15, 2015, 05:40:24 PM
That is exactly what I thought, but I never saw Jesperson actually play. Going to watch the 15U feature game tonight, WI Playground vs. Howard Pulley Black (MN). We may eventually play the loser down the road in the bracket. What do you know about Howard Pulley 15U Black, Jay Bee? Is Sage Booker on that team?
Not a lot, but yes Booker is on that team. Traditional Ryan Larson from up north can fill it up. Big 6'6" Daniel Oturo from Cretin-Derham Hall is another to watch. Coffey teammate (Hopkins) DeLawrence Aaron can play too.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 15, 2015, 09:47:53 AM
More self-hatred from MU fans.
Seriously I have been to both places. Charlottesville is nice. But some people prefer the urban environment. And Marquette gives you a very nice education to succeed in society today. He should go where he is most comfortable.
Guy, I have zero self-hatred. I know this area has become your raison d'etre these last few months but I didn't write one negative word about Marquette University or its basketball program.
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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 15, 2015, 10:28:29 AM
Mr. Basketball that year in Wisconsin was Nimrod Hilliard...
You made that name up
What a bizarre collegiate career...
http://nccueaglepride.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4491
Quote from: keefe on May 15, 2015, 09:11:19 PM
You made that name up
IIRC, I had a disagreement with Chick and others over Nimrod Hilliard's name when the possibility of him transferring came up or something. I think that Chick even had a hoodie from his High School because the Glows used to vacation near there. I thought that "Nimrod" was an unfortunate name due to the connotation that "Nimrod" now has. Others pointed out the origin of the name Nimrod in the Bible as "a great hunter" or some such.
Long story short, I think this guy is real.
Unfortunately, Numbnuts Crean is real too, ai na?
Quote from: keefe on May 15, 2015, 09:14:24 PM
What a bizarre collegiate career...
http://nccueaglepride.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4491
Four schools in four years (1 JUCO) with no sitting out as a transfer red shirt. I've got to think that he has a brilliant law career ahead of him, if he so chooses.
Former MU guard Jamal Ferguson was one of Hilliard's teammates this year and scored 22 points in the conference season. Ferguson was an outstanding prospect as a sophomore in high school and has never seemed to improve.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 15, 2015, 09:20:03 PM
Unfortunately, Numbnuts Crean is real too, ai na?
Yes, but do you know if the Hypobaric chamber caused Crean's numbnuts, or did Crean's numbnuts cause the Hypobaric chamber?
I watched a lot of Nimrod at the 17U level (pause). He was a fun player to watch - very good low to MM guard.
Quote from: LittleWade on May 15, 2015, 09:18:19 PM
IIRC, I had a disagreement with Chick and others over Nimrod Hilliard's name when the possibility of him transferring came up or something. I think that Chick even had a hoodie from his High School because the Glows used to vacation near there. I thought that "Nimrod" was an unfortunate name due to the connotation that "Nimrod" now has. Others pointed out the origin of the name Nimrod in the Bible as "a great hunter" or some such.
Long story short, I think this guy is real.
Know nothing about the player but Watersmeet MI HS are the Nimrods and yes chick has a sweatshirt.
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 15, 2015, 06:23:35 PM
Not a lot, but yes Booker is on that team. Traditional Ryan Larson from up north can fill it up. Big 6'6" Daniel Oturo from Cretin-Derham Hall is another to watch. Coffey teammate (Hopkins) DeLawrence Aaron can play too.
They had a non-traditional big, who looked to be about 6' 7" who just destroyed every big on Playground Warriors including Jack Plumb. I believe it was Oturo. PG Warriors have 7' 0" freshman from Apple Valley who made Rod Gross (old school reference) look coordinated. Oturo just abused him. Howard Pulley had them by 7 with a minute left. After 4 offensive rebounds on the last possession, Jordan McCabe hit a fade away three in the corner to win by 1.
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 16, 2015, 12:29:42 PM
They had a non-traditional big, who looked to be about 6' 7" who just destroyed every big on Playground Warriors including Jack Plumb. I believe it was Oturo. PG Warriors have 7' 0" freshman from Apple Valley who made Rod Gross (old school reference) look coordinated. Oturo just abused him. Howard Pulley had them by 7 with a minute left. After 4 offensive rebounds on the last possession, Jordan McCabe hit a fade away three in the corner to win by 1.
Rod Grosse, the biggest disappointment I ever experienced in terms of an over hyped recruit. I do wonder whether it would have been different if he had the opportunity to play for the guy who recruited him, Majerus, instead of Dukiet. Oi Vey!
Quote from: Freeport Warrior on May 16, 2015, 12:29:42 PM
They had a non-traditional big, who looked to be about 6' 7" who just destroyed every big on Playground Warriors including Jack Plumb. I believe it was Oturo. PG Warriors have 7' 0" freshman from Apple Valley who made Rod Gross (old school reference) look coordinated. Oturo just abused him. Howard Pulley had them by 7 with a minute left. After 4 offensive rebounds on the last possession, Jordan McCabe hit a fade away three in the corner to win by 1.
Sounds like a decent game to go along with some solid talent. Even though I'm not all that concerned with who wins or loses a travel team game when I'm evaluating certain individual players, it sure makes it more enjoyable when it's a close, hard-fought game.
Sounds like Oturo. His high school has produced numerous star-athletes in various sports and sends many kids to Marquette. Here's a pic of him:
(http://i.imgur.com/RNMjFN2.jpg)
Quote from: jsglow on May 16, 2015, 11:39:09 AM
Know nothing about the player but Watersmeet MI HS are the Nimrods and yes chick has a sweatshirt.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c0/22/56/c02256399882675c2ab315ca3cbd67a2.jpg)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORLPlW2VrPU
Nimrods espn commercial
Quote from: Jay Bee on May 16, 2015, 12:50:23 PM
Sounds like a decent game to go along with some solid talent. Even though I'm not all that concerned with who wins or loses a travel team game when I'm evaluating certain individual players, it sure makes it more enjoyable when it's a close, hard-fought game.
Sounds like Oturo. His high school has produced numerous star-athletes in various sports and sends many kids to Marquette. Here's a pic of him:
(http://i.imgur.com/RNMjFN2.jpg)
That was him. Best player in the game last night.
Now, to put this back on thread, my guys at Ray Allen just beat Sam and Trev up in Stoughton a few minutes ago by 9. My buddy coaches them. Don't sleep on Taurus Adams from Brown Deer. He had 19 and guarded Hauser.
I thought Sam was on his visit?
Quote from: MuMark on May 16, 2015, 04:05:58 PM
I thought Sam was on his visit?
Could be that it starts this evening.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 15, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
Guy, I have zero self-hatred. I know this area has become your raison d'etre these last few months but I didn't write one negative word about Marquette University or its basketball program.
If you seriously believe that Virginia would be so much better than Marquette for Sam Hauser, without apparently knowing Sam or his family one bit, then you are either vastly overrating Virginia or completely underrating your own alma mater.
As a native Wisconsin person who has lived around the USA and travelled the world, I sincerely believe that Sam will be very happy playing and studying at Marquette. The strong basketball tradition is second to none. As an alumnus I love Marquette more every year. Sam and his parents will love the Marquette family.
Quote from: MuMark on May 16, 2015, 04:05:58 PM
I thought Sam was on his visit?
Just heard from coach and he said Joe Lemon from Brookfield Academy guarded Hauser as well.
Quote from: Skitch on May 16, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORLPlW2VrPU
Nimrods espn commercial
ESPN cuts right to the chase - "Without sports who would cheer for the Nimrods?"
In thinking about this, its kind of a strange weekend to take an official visit. Aren't there Commencement ceremonies at the Al?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 17, 2015, 01:34:26 PM
In thinking about this, its kind of a strange weekend to take an official visit. Aren't there Commencement ceremonies at the Al?
Good point. We definitely don't want the Hausers to find out we graduate any players. #tealnotneeded
Looks like it was a busy week for the coaches......not only Rowsey and Hauser
MWPE @MWPElite 41m41 minutes ago
NGS/Champlin Park MN 2017 PG McKinley Wright receiving growing interest from Marquette on Unofficial Visit yesterday
Hauser just committed for 2016!
Sam Hauser @Big_Smooth10 11m11 minutes ago
Proud to say I am committing to Marquette University! Can't wait to be be a Golden Eagle and be apart of the MUBB family!
https://twitter.com/Big_Smooth10/status/600082037794410496
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 16, 2015, 05:00:30 PM
If you seriously believe that Virginia would be so much better than Marquette for Sam Hauser, without apparently knowing Sam or his family one bit, then you are either vastly overrating Virginia or completely underrating your own alma mater.
It's moot now since Hauser committed but when I write that Charlottesville is beautiful, Virginia is a prestigious University, and they've had success on the court under Bennett none of that is demeaning to Marquette.
I feel for ya. Your a$$hole persona has been well entrenched in this forum for years and most times it is appreciated and necessary. However, lately, you've stepped over the boundary into agenda-driven stupidity and it must be down to a life event that has turned negative for you. I hope you make it through in a sane manner.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 18, 2015, 08:38:54 AM
It's moot now since Hauser committed but when I write that Charlottesville is beautiful, Virginia is a prestigious University, and they've had success on the court under Bennett none of that is demeaning to Marquette.
LOL...just skipping the part where you said "I'd encourage the kid to Charlottesville."
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on May 18, 2015, 08:38:54 AM
I feel for ya. Your a$$hole persona has been well entrenched in this forum for years and most times it is appreciated and necessary. However, lately, you've stepped over the boundary into agenda-driven stupidity and it must be down to a life event that has turned negative for you. I hope you make it through in a sane manner.
Love it. Your insults nourish me. Too bad the kid screwed his future in your eyes by choosing your alma mater.
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 26, 2015, 11:04:53 AM
No doubt that Hauser is a "top 100" guy.
If I had to rank him, I'd guess he'd fall somewhere between 40-70 for me on any given day...
But I think with a lot of guys in the 40-70 range in any given year.. you have some that will rise up, but you have a fair amount who never come through as much as they *could*...
Hauser to me isn't likely to be a disappointment relative to other examples over the years of guys who "don't quite pan out." He's too solid. At a minimum, a good player... would be pleased with him as an addition to the Warriors.
He's gotten bigger, but still could add a lot of strength which should only help his game.
I'd take him (pause)
Checks in at 47 in ESPN's update today. I'm agreeable to that ranking.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 09, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
Checks in at 47 in ESPN's update today. I'm agreeable to that ranking.
That's a big jump.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 09, 2015, 11:02:10 AM
That's a big jump.
He has gotten a ton of great press this summer. Nothing but rave reviews from scouts and analysts. I didn't expect this big of a jump...but a definite jump.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 09, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
Checks in at 47 in ESPN's update today. I'm agreeable to that ranking.
How is that possible ... after Bo cooled on him and everything?
247 has him at 95. Not ranked by either Rivals or Scout in their recent updates. I'm guessing they haven't seen Sam.
Quote from: MU82 on June 09, 2015, 12:20:22 PM
How is that possible ... after Bo cooled on him and everything?
ESPN scouts read muscoop.
Bump. Interesting thread in retrospect into the life of Scoop fans in regard to recruiting. Sam may have exceeded expectations of almost every poster, even the most optimistic. Certainly he has blown Bo's expectations out of the water.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 03, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
Bump. Interesting thread in retrospect into the life of Scoop fans in regard to recruiting. Sam may have exceeded expectations of almost every poster, even the most optimistic. Certainly he has blown Bo's expectations out of the water.
FWIW I think my thoughts were reasonable then and now.
People are not ready for Marquette 2018-19.
It'll be fun.
"Oh my goooosh, what a surprise team!" is likely.
Early on may lose some games because of tough comp... fan base may be a b. Then they'll come around later in the year.
Magic.
Quote from: Jay Bee on June 03, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
FWIW I think my thoughts were reasonable then and now.
People are not ready for Marquette 2018-19.
It'll be fun.
"Oh my goooosh, what a surprise team!" is likely.
Early on may lose some games because of tough comp... fan base may be a b. Then they'll come around later in the year.
Magic.
I'm ready. When the Warriors roll into Mpls for the final four, big a$$ bbq at my house. This ain't gonna be no beer summit.
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 03, 2018, 07:58:25 PM
I'm ready. When the Warriors roll into Mpls for the final four, big a$$ bbq at my house. This ain't gonna be no beer summit.
You better mean before or after the games, because I will be at the arena during.
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 03, 2018, 07:58:25 PM
I'm ready. When the Warriors roll into Mpls for the final four, big a$$ bbq at my house. This ain't gonna be no beer summit.
Tell me what I can bring.
Quote from: warriorchick on June 03, 2018, 08:00:51 PM
You better mean before or after the games, because I will be at the arena during.
/facepalm
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2018, 08:01:53 PM
Tell me what I can bring.
Dunks will have 55 gallon drums of Sonoran salsa on tap
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 03, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
Dunks will have 55 gallon drums of Sonoran salsa on tap
I'll order the pickup truck of chips to go with it.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 03, 2018, 08:11:41 PM
I'll order the pickup truck of chips to go with it.
I make a mean potato salad.
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 03, 2018, 07:58:25 PM
I'm ready. When the Warriors roll into Mpls for the final four, big a$$ bbq at my house. This ain't gonna be no beer summit.
Have Soft Pines and Real Chili cater.
Quote from: Newsdreams Likes Chardonnay on June 03, 2018, 09:22:11 PM
I'll bring plenty of my brother's beer.
I say that no matter what, we should have a Scoop Potluck at some point.
Quote from: warriorchick on June 03, 2018, 09:55:27 PM
I say that no matter what, we should have a Scoop Potluck at some point.
C'mon, if any of us were the type of person who could be motivated to organize a huge get together, we wouldn't be spending so much time in an internet bulletin board.
I'll organize it. But I am not hosting it. Unless y'all wanna hang in a 900 Sq foot apartment.
But if we do have a pot luck I'll bring all the sauces! I looove sauces
Quote from: warriorchick on June 03, 2018, 09:55:27 PM
I say that no matter what, we should have a Scoop Potluck at some point.
If it's anything like 90% of the threads then it'd turn into a big shouting match within minutes.
Eye'm inn only if its grain free, hey?
Quote from: BagpipingHurler on June 04, 2018, 07:40:05 AM
If it's anything like 90% of the threads then it'd turn into a big shouting match within minutes.
Yeah, every time someone new walked in, someone else would accuse them of being Chicos. Except for Chick...everyone obviously would recognize Chick immediately.
Quote from: MUEng92 on June 04, 2018, 05:47:00 AM
C'mon, if any of us were the type of person who could be motivated to organize a huge get together, we wouldn't be spending so much time in an internet bulletin board.
If Chili can spend 12 hours tending a brisket, he can spend a few minutes organizing a potluck.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on June 04, 2018, 07:57:41 AM
Yeah, every time someone new walked in, someone else would accuse them of being Chicos. Except for Chick...everyone obviously would recognize Chick immediately.
If I stopped posting GIFs and mentioning my lady bits in every post, no one would be the wiser. ;D
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 03, 2018, 08:15:25 PM
With BACON?
Had dinner at Erik the Red Saturday. Ordered the Smoked Bacon Slab for my entree. Family still not sure if they should be disgusted or impressed.
http://www.eriktheredbar.com/menu.html
Quote from: warriorchick on June 03, 2018, 09:55:27 PM
I say that no matter what, we should have a Scoop Potluck at some point.
One dish per person or username? Chicos could feed the whole party.
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 04, 2018, 08:46:18 AM
One dish per person or username? Chicos could feed the whole party.
Yeah but my guess is that it would be a lot of the same dish. Something like Marshmello Fruit Salad.
If it's at Chili's it would need to be hot dish and bars. Absolute requirements for a Minnesota potluck.
I'll bring the apples
I think we all know what Hilltopper will bring. He'll probably want to wait until they schedule a "5 for $5." Do they still do that?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2018, 09:35:36 AM
I'll bring the apples
Can I just bring Arby's and claim I made it?
Quote from: forgetful on June 04, 2018, 09:46:41 AM
Can I just bring Arby's and claim I made it?
Beef 'n Cheddar casserole or GTFO.
I'll drive the ice cream truck.
I'll even bring my black bean and corn along with the salsa. Chili throws a mean BBQ
Quote from: cheebs09 on June 04, 2018, 08:46:18 AM
One dish per person or username? Chicos could feed the whole party.
I think chicos, hoopaloop, and Billy Hoyle agreed to split the beer. Unfortunately only one of them can make it but the others will be happy to text in their support of an argument comes up.
Quote from: source? on June 04, 2018, 04:59:14 PM
I think chicos, hoopaloop, and Billy Hoyle agreed to split the beer. Unfortunately only one of them can make it but the others will be happy to text in their support of an argument comes up.
It appears that your Chico's detector is malfunctioning. You might want to get that looked at.
The menu and guest list will be vetted by the members of the Underboard.
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 04, 2018, 09:19:51 PM
The menu and guest list will be vetted by the members of the Underboard.
Aahhh...the elitism of the Scoop Intelligencia is at it again. Will there be free tickets to the Nickelodeon Universe amusement park at MOA as well?
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 04, 2018, 09:31:23 PM
Aahhh...the elitism of the Scoop Intelligencia is at it again. Will there be free tickets to the Nickelodeon Universe amusement park at MOA as well?
Put in your application and we'll consider you for membership.
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 04, 2018, 09:35:47 PM
Put in your application and we'll consider you for membership.
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Quote from: StillAWarrior on June 04, 2018, 06:06:38 PM
It appears that your Chico's detector is malfunctioning. You might want to get that looked at.
You are correct. Not sure how I got that mixed up.
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on June 05, 2018, 01:01:47 AM
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I'll bring the bottled water or whatever 4ever thinks I do for a living.