Wojo mentioned as a long-term candidate -
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/07/08/michigan-state-spartans-tom-izzo-potential-replacements (http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/07/08/michigan-state-spartans-tom-izzo-potential-replacements)
Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 11, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
Wojo mentioned as a long-term candidate -
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/07/08/michigan-state-spartans-tom-izzo-potential-replacements (http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2014/07/08/michigan-state-spartans-tom-izzo-potential-replacements)
Not the most well researched article. Crean would leave Indiana in a heart beat to take the Spartan job. Nice to see Wojo mentioned but he hasn't even been a head coach for one game.
Quote from: Texas Western on July 11, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
Crean would leave Indiana in a heart beat to take the Spartan job
Perhaps, but schools typically don't go after coaches in their own conference. That eliminates TC as a candidate (for now).
Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 11, 2014, 06:40:05 PM
Perhaps, but schools typically don't go after coaches in their own conference. That eliminates TC as a candidate (for now).
I rather doubt Crean is on MSU's list for many reasons.
Quote from: keefe on July 11, 2014, 06:42:07 PM
I rather doubt Crean is on MSU's list for many reasons.
Agreed. The fact that he coaches at another conference school is probably least among them.
Quote from: Texas Western on July 11, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
Not the most well researched article.
The article was about who MSU might
make an offer to, not
who would take the job. Hell, I'd take the job if it was offered to me...that doesn't make me a candidate.
Quote from: keefe on July 11, 2014, 06:42:07 PM
I rather doubt Crean is on MSU's list for many reasons.
I didn't say Crean would be on MSU's list. I am just saying Crean would jump on the opportunity if offered as he has always stated Michigan State was his dream job. That is one of the reasons I thought the article was written poorly. Also Stan Heath has actually done a very good job post MSU with some weak programs.
Wojo isn't leaving--3rd time I've said it.
Maybe we'll re-hire Crean after Wojo leaves.
Yep ... this is great ... I love talking about our brand new coach leaving. Fun stuff.
Quote from: MU82 on July 11, 2014, 09:43:01 PM
Maybe we'll re-hire Crean after Wojo leaves.
Yep ... this is great ... I love talking about our brand new coach leaving. Fun stuff.
In order for the full-circle thingy to work, Crean will have had to win something at IU - ala LeBron.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on July 11, 2014, 09:58:46 PM
In order for the full-circle thingy to work, Crean will have had to win something at IU - ala LeBron.
Well then ... never mind!
Do we need an official Wojo to.... thread?
In my mind Wojo is gone after five years. That will be about the time Coach K retires and if Wojo has done a really good job he replaces K. On the flip side, if Wojo does a bad job we replace him. It also has occurred to me that the recruitment of Ellenson might determine Coach K's replacement. Ellenson picking MU puts Wojo in the drivers seat. Ellenson picking Northwestern puts Northwestern's coach in the drivers seat to replace Coach K.
Quote from: Texas Western on July 11, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
Not the most well researched article. Crean would leave Indiana in a heart beat to take the Spartan job. Nice to see Wojo mentioned but he hasn't even been a head coach for one game.
It's MSU!...it's MSU!
Quote from: bilsu on July 12, 2014, 07:31:35 AM
In my mind Wojo is gone after five years. That will be about the time Coach K retires and if Wojo has done a really good job he replaces K. On the flip side, if Wojo does a bad job we replace him. It also has occurred to me that the recruitment of Ellenson might determine Coach K's replacement. Ellenson picking MU puts Wojo in the drivers seat. Ellenson picking Northwestern puts Northwestern's coach in the drivers seat to replace Coach K.
I don't think the Duke job is Wojo's to lose by any means. Lots of other K disciples out there (Amaker, Dawkins), plus coaches outside the program (Stevens). Lots can happen in five years.
Quote from: bilsu on July 12, 2014, 07:31:35 AM
In my mind Wojo is gone after five years. That will be about the time Coach K retires and if Wojo has done a really good job he replaces K. On the flip side, if Wojo does a bad job we replace him.
First of all, as other posters have said, why would Wojo automatically be The One to replace K? So many other options.
Second of all, your "flip side" sentence demonstrates why coaches have no reason to be loyal to schools. Because you're right: We will fire Wojo's a$$ without a second thought if he doesn't win enough. Nobody will be whining about the coach's loyalty then.
Quote from: bilsu on July 12, 2014, 07:31:35 AM
In my mind Wojo is gone after five years. That will be about the time Coach K retires and if Wojo has done a really good job he replaces K. On the flip side, if Wojo does a bad job we replace him. It also has occurred to me that the recruitment of Ellenson might determine Coach K's replacement. Ellenson picking MU puts Wojo in the drivers seat. Ellenson picking Northwestern puts Northwestern's coach in the drivers seat to replace Coach K.
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In order for Wojo to have another opportunity he has to do well for an extended period here. At that point our program will have been successful with 3 consecutive coaches. At that point he has his own identity and can build his own legacy. So he would not necessarily be anxious to jump ship. In reality though he has not even coached a game. So at this point lets just get through the cupcake part of the schedule with a few wins and build from there.
Quote from: bilsu on July 12, 2014, 07:31:35 AM
In my mind Wojo is gone after five years. That will be about the time Coach K retires and if Wojo has done a really good job he replaces K. On the flip side, if Wojo does a bad job we replace him. It also has occurred to me that the recruitment of Ellenson might determine Coach K's replacement. Ellenson picking MU puts Wojo in the drivers seat. Ellenson picking Northwestern puts Northwestern's coach in the drivers seat to replace Coach K.
I know everyone is adamant that Duke will be quick to hire Wojo if/when Coach K retires because he is a Duke guy, but the fact is that there are a lot of other Duke-connections that have a better resume and more experience to take over their program (Amaker, Dawkins, Capel, Snyder, Collins, and Hurley). You can't ignore the fact that Kevin White, the Duke AD and former AD at Notre Dame, would probably put Mike Brey higher on his list. Brey is a former Coach K assistant, has experienced success at Notre Dame, runs a clean/competitive program, and White hired him at Notre Dame in 2000.
I personally think that Duke will hire outside the Duke circle, allowing the future coach to start fresh and put his own stamp on it. I would list Shaka Smart, Brad Stevens, Josh Pastner, Fred Hoiberg and some other young coaches as having a higher probability of getting the Duke job. Just my two cents.
Duke before MSU.
Crean may be tapped for MSU.
As long as he maintains average success at IU.
I personally think Coach K is going to retire in the next 3 years. I know he just made the "another 5 years" statement, but I don't buy it. I think he made that statement just to put recruits at ease. If Coach K does leave in the next 3 years, it will be too soon to tap Wojo.
And the whole bit about there being a dozen candidates for the Duke job is absolutely true. I think Wojo will be here for awhile (provided he succeeds).