Baring any argument on height, would the coaches or the MU team win in a pickup game?
Do the coaches get Mr. Merritt too? I'd say Coaches in a half-court...kiddos in full-court game
Coaches would be really tough to beat. The Wojo, Carrawell, Diener, Nelson, Gainey, and Presutti were all stars on really good teams and all still in their 30's.
Who plays point for the coaches?
All 4 dribble at the same time, new meta.
The current staff would resemble our 2009-10 team.
IF the coaches get Merritt, coaches in a blowout.
I'm not sure I see any of our coaches being able to handle Deonte.
Nobody that's replied so far favoring the coaches are serious, right? (or favoring them with Merritt even). There's a reason they're not playing for money anymore overseas or elsewhere and are in the coaching business now.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 11, 2014, 09:57:33 PM
I'm not sure I see any of our coaches being able to handle Deonte.
The coaches couldn't handle any of the current roster.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on June 11, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
Nobody that's replied so far favoring the coaches are serious, right? (or favoring them with Merritt even). There's a reason they're not playing for money anymore overseas or elsewhere and are in the coaching business now.
Travis Diener would be the best player on the floor.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 11, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Travis Diener would be the best player on the floor.
I think Carlino would have something to say about that.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 11, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Travis Diener would be the best player on the floor.
Travis Diener could still be drawing NBA paychecks if he wanted. 4 years ago he chose serious PT over the NBA. Today he chose his family's future over that serious PT.
Many coaches have walked away from playing overseas. I bet Wojo is a lot like Wardle. Growing his coaching career was more appealing in his mind than chasing the playing dream in Europe.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on June 11, 2014, 10:15:56 PM
I think Carlino would have something to say about that.
Travis Diener was logging big minutes for one of the best teams in one of the best European professional leagues just a week ago. He was the MVP of the Italian Cup tournament earlier this year. Carlino is by no means that good.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 11, 2014, 10:12:49 PM
Travis Diener would be the best player on the floor.
I don't know if he could hang with the "game changer" :o
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on June 11, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
I don't know if he could hang with the "game changer" :o
Is that the same thing as a 'lock down defender?'
Quote from: keefe on June 11, 2014, 10:48:41 PM
Is that the same thing as a 'lock down defender?'
Yes, I believe so!
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on June 11, 2014, 10:15:56 PM
I think Carlino would have something to say about that.
Where's the final four, I'll book my plane ticket now.
The players on pure athleticism. The coaches win a game of horse.
The fact that this argument is plausible is pretty cool. I'm having visions of Bo Ryan and staff smoothly executing the swing.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 11, 2014, 09:57:33 PM
I'm not sure I see any of our coaches being able to handle Deonte.
2 for Deonte, 3 for Diener.
Depends, are we talking full size coaches or mini coaches? Of course, we know Dikta would win either way.
if Fischer eligible? The players will need a height advantage
If not, I'm taking the coaches
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 11, 2014, 09:57:33 PM
I'm not sure I see any of our coaches being able to handle Deonte.
Wait! Are you sure he'd even play? If I recall, he can't play defense.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 11, 2014, 10:20:25 PM
Travis Diener was logging big minutes for one of the best teams in one of the best European professional leagues just a week ago. He was the MVP of the Italian Cup tournament earlier this year. Carlino is by no means that good.
Sounds pretty dime a dozen to me
Quote from: JWags85 on June 12, 2014, 09:10:24 AM
Sounds pretty dime a dozen to me
There's a blast from the past...
Quote from: The Lens on June 11, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
Travis Diener could still be drawing NBA paychecks if he wanted.
So you're saying that instead of receiving first-class treatment everywhere he goes and earning NBA pay (which has to be at least $1 million for somebody at his years-of-service level; he made $1.7 million with the Pacers before they cut him in 2010), Diener is
choosing to be the No. 5 guy on a college coaching staff?
That's pretty funny.
Quote from: MU82 on June 12, 2014, 11:42:54 PM
So you're saying that instead of receiving first-class treatment everywhere he goes and earning NBA pay (which has to be at least $1 million for somebody at his years-of-service level; he made $1.7 million with the Pacers before they cut him in 2010), Diener is choosing to be the No. 5 guy on a college coaching staff?
That's pretty funny.
We don't know if maybe he's trying to return to be closer to the family or perhaps it's because he won't work for less than 1mil that he's not getting those paychecks. I'm sure someone would sign him for a 10day few hundred thousand or something but he wants to set a high price for his service and thus that sends him to coaching.
Quote from: MU82 on June 12, 2014, 11:42:54 PM
So you're saying that instead of receiving first-class treatment everywhere he goes and earning NBA pay (which has to be at least $1 million for somebody at his years-of-service level; he made $1.7 million with the Pacers before they cut him in 2010), Diener is choosing to be the No. 5 guy on a college coaching staff?
That's pretty funny.
If Travis never went to Europe, then it would be absolutely factual.
Quote from: HutchwasClutch on June 11, 2014, 10:06:21 PM
Nobody that's replied so far favoring the coaches are serious, right? (or favoring them with Merritt even). There's a reason they're not playing for money anymore overseas or elsewhere and are in the coaching business now.
+1
Our current team would destroy the coaches based on sheer athleticism alone. I doubt anyone other than Diener would be very effective against our current team....as the other coaches have been out of the game (playing) for far too long.
Quote from: MU82 on June 12, 2014, 11:42:54 PM
So you're saying that instead of receiving first-class treatment everywhere he goes and earning NBA pay (which has to be at least $1 million for somebody at his years-of-service level; he made $1.7 million with the Pacers before they cut him in 2010), Diener is choosing to be the No. 5 guy on a college coaching staff?
That's pretty funny.
Diener chose to play in Europe due to more PT and more $$$. He clearly is leaving money on the table with this move.
Quote from: keefe on June 11, 2014, 10:48:41 PM
Is that the same thing as a 'lock down defender?'
game changer=elite lockdown defender
Quote from: willie warrior on June 14, 2014, 01:50:13 PM
game changer=elite lockdown defender
To hell with that Burton guy who can score 20 in a half.
Quote from: Ners on June 13, 2014, 07:26:13 AM
+1
Our current team would destroy the coaches based on sheer athleticism alone. I doubt anyone other than Diener would be very effective against our current team....as the other coaches have been out of the game (playing) for far too long.
Okay, how about coaches against our team, but our team has to play Derrick Wilson at point guard 80% of the time?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 13, 2014, 09:26:01 AM
Diener chose to play in Europe due to more PT and more $$$. He clearly is leaving short term money on the table with this move.
FIFY.
Quote from: Ners on June 13, 2014, 07:26:13 AM
+1
Our current team would destroy the coaches based on sheer athleticism alone. I doubt anyone other than Diener would be very effective against our current team....as the other coaches have been out of the game (playing) for far too long.
Prime coaches vs our team what do you think?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 13, 2014, 09:26:01 AM
Diener chose to play in Europe due to more PT and more $$$. He clearly is leaving money on the table with this move.
As a player, I loved me some Travis Diener and I rooted for him when he was in the NBA, all 160 pounds of him.
He had a nice little run for a couple of years as a 15 mpg role player with the Pacers. He then was cut by the Pacers and signed and barely used by the Blazers. He wisely chose to go to Europe instead of bouncing around the NBA as a 13th man.
To suggest that four years later, at 32, he could simply choose to be an NBA player again seems extremely optimistic on his behalf.
Travis got 21 NBA starts and a seven-figure contract, and he hung around long enough to receive a pension. That's more than I ever expected he'd get. Even great players' careers end, often not at their own choosing.
I'm thrilled he's back at MU.