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Title: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Tums Festival on June 10, 2014, 10:10:02 AM
Nicole Auerbach ‏@NicoleAuerbach  1m
Georgetown & Syracuse announce they'll renew basketball rivalry. 4-year home-and-home series begins in 2015-16 in DC.

Great news for the Big East and Fox.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Litehouse on June 10, 2014, 10:17:21 AM
That's great.  Now we need to get something similar with ND.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 10, 2014, 10:23:57 AM
denverMU is in charge of arrangin' that gig
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: bradley center bat on June 10, 2014, 11:14:28 AM
Great news for FS1 and the Georgetown ticket office.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: barfolomew on June 10, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
Should also prove to be a slight bump for MU's RPI for the next four years.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 10, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
Agreed.  I would LOVE for there to be an annual Marquette-Notre Dame game played in Chicago at the United Center.  The city is a huge spot for alumni of both schools, and would guarantee that they both would play in one of the best areas of the country for recruits. 

If that were to fail, I would try and pursue an annual game with Louisville.  We had some amazing games dating back to the Conference USA days (every game appeared to end with a last shot).

Wishful thinking I know...  Now that both are big dogs in the ACC, not sure they would be interested.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: GooooMarquette on June 10, 2014, 12:28:06 PM
MU-ND would be nice.

MU-UL would be AWESOME!
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: real chili 83 on June 10, 2014, 12:29:36 PM
Not only would UL be good for our RPI, their fans "get" our basketball tradition.  They are fun and respectful rivals.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 10, 2014, 01:26:43 PM
I want Notre Dame. I love beating those smug little leprechauns. A match in the United Center would sell out easy, huge pockets of fans from both schools.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: mu_hilltopper on June 10, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
Louisville would love that, we've lost 11 of the past 14 games to them.

Let's go with MU-ND; at least that's competitive.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 10, 2014, 01:50:34 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on June 10, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
Louisville would love that, we've lost 11 of the past 14 games to them.

Let's go with MU-ND; at least that's competitive.

Louisville has pretty much done that to everyone over the past 10 or so years.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: GooooMarquette on June 10, 2014, 02:12:50 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on June 10, 2014, 01:36:59 PM
Louisville would love that, we've lost 11 of the past 14 games to them.

Let's go with MU-ND; at least that's competitive.

To improve, you have to play the best.  I also suspect more 4 and 5-star recruits would get excited about playing UL than ND.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: barfolomew on June 10, 2014, 02:26:08 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 10, 2014, 01:26:43 PM
I want Notre Dame. I love beating those smug little leprechauns. A match in the United Center would sell out easy, huge pockets of fans from both schools.

Those deals are notoriously hard to get done because both schools are loathe to give up a home game, even when you do a multi-year series. I also wonder if the Bradley Center would have a voice in such an arrangement.
I agree, though, that I'd love to see that. MU fans would probably be outnumbered by Smug Leprechauns, but it would be worth it.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 10, 2014, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: barfolomew on June 10, 2014, 02:26:08 PM
Those deals are notoriously hard to get done because both schools are loathe to give up a home game, even when you do a multi-year series. I also wonder if the Bradley Center would have a voice in such an arrangement.
I agree, though, that I'd love to see that. MU fans would probably be outnumbered by Smug Leprechauns, but it would be worth it.

Unless you're Kentucky then you love neutral site games! But I doubt ND would outnumber us if it was in November or December.  The ND alums/students would still be focused on Football and were the same size as opposed to Louisville game where we'd likely get dwarfed. 

I vote ND!
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: MU82 on June 10, 2014, 02:36:54 PM
ND, please.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 10, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on June 10, 2014, 02:12:50 PM
To improve, you have to play the best.  I also suspect more 4 and 5-star recruits would get excited about playing UL than ND.

Or they'd see the insane atmosphere from both a pretty evenly split crowd and that would help our teams image.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: MauraDay on June 10, 2014, 02:42:49 PM
Give me Louisville! That's the rivalry I miss most.
(Maybe because I'm from Indiana, I don't share the ND hatred of most Marquette fans. Also lived in Louisville from 02-06 and got to see many of the epic games of the rivalry there. I can verify that UL fans respect Marquette.)
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 10, 2014, 02:48:16 PM
I am confident the rivalry with Notre Dame will soon be renewed.  They have played each other 116 times since 1920 (Irish lead 80-36), and we have played Wisconsin 118 times. The tradition is too good to pass up.  Even when both schools were independents, they played each other.  

Give it a few years...
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: muwarrior69 on June 10, 2014, 02:49:01 PM
Why not both!
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: swoopem on June 10, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on June 10, 2014, 02:48:16 PM
I am confident the rivalry with Notre Dame will soon be renewed.  They have played each other 116 times since 1920 (Irish lead 80-36), and we have played Wisconsin 118 times. The tradition is too good to pass up.  Even when both schools were independents, they played each other.  

Give it a few years...

Sh!t I didn't realize we have such a horrible record against them. Kind of embarrassing.

As far a L'ville or ND I'd rather play L'ville every year, but I'm cool with either.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: hoyasincebirth on June 10, 2014, 02:57:09 PM
Quote from: BrewCity83 on June 10, 2014, 01:50:34 PM
Louisville has pretty much done that to everyone over the past 10 or so years.

Georgetown is 8-2 vs. Louisville since 2000 6-2 since they joined the BE.  :P
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 10, 2014, 04:16:09 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 10, 2014, 02:49:01 PM
Why not both!

Well BE/B1G challenge, game against WI, plus thanksgiving tournament then add on ND and Louisville? That'd likely be the most grueling schedule of any team in the country every year.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 06:16:29 PM
ND has no interest in playing us.  There is no upside for them. It is not a guaranteed win and they will likely have to do it home and home. United Center neutral game would be a decent economic deal for them but again risks the loss.

It would be great if it happened, but I dont think it will. ND used to play Michigan State regularly in basketball and that disappeared never to return for the same reasons. ND would prefer to play Depaul, a guaranteed win , as their Chicago game.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 10, 2014, 07:32:01 PM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 06:16:29 PM
ND has no interest in playing us.  There is no upside for them. It is not a guaranteed win and they will likely have to do it home and home. United Center neutral game would be a decent economic deal for them but again risks the loss.

It would be great if it happened, but I dont think it will. ND used to play Michigan State regularly in basketball and that disappeared never to return for the same reasons. ND would prefer to play Depaul, a guaranteed win , as their Chicago game.

Well I mean there's that whole nonconference RPI thing.  Plus as we all know money is everything and a MU game, especially at the UC, would definitely sell more tickets than say a "guaranteed win" where they have to like pay the visiting team.

Not mention it's pretty gauranteed I mean we've beaten them twice in the 5 years I was here and that was during a pretty darn good stretch of MU basketball. 
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: TJ on June 11, 2014, 02:48:40 AM
Quote from: real chili 83 on June 10, 2014, 12:29:36 PM
Not only would UL be good for our RPI, their fans "get" our basketball tradition.  They are fun and respectful rivals.
Do you get a big RPI bump from losses?  We're 5-11 against UL since Wade left, including a sad 2-5 recently (under Buzz).  Sure there have been many exciting games, but mostly they've been heartbreaking for us.  We haven't won a close game against them since 2004.  And we lost by 19 or more 4 times!

2/3/13 L 51-70
3/8/12 L 71-84
1/16/12 W 74-63
3/10/11 L 56-81
1/15/11 L 70-71
3/2/10 W 69-48
3/1/09 L 58-62
2/4/08 L 57-71
1/17/08 L 51-71
2/17/07 L 59-61
1/15/07 W 74-65
3/1/06 L 60-67
2/17/05 L 61-64
1/26/05 L 52-99
3/6/04 W 81-80
1/31/04 W 77-70

Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 11, 2014, 07:55:04 AM
I would say that if Louisville was still in the American, there would be a decent-sized chance that we could still schedule a regular series with them (Louisville wouldn't want to rely on scheduling the likes of ECU, Tulane, Tulsa, UCF, etc. on regular basis).  However, with them now being in the ACC, and playing the likes of Duke, UNC, Virginia, NC State, Syracuse, PITT, and even the basketball powerhouse Virginia Tech ( ;D), I'd say that their strength of schedule will be set for a long time. 

There's no need to bump up their SOS with us, and our rivalry (while fun and competitive) isn't strong enough to keep it going.

But, who knows?  Stranger things have happened with scheduling in years past.  We DID get a game cancelled due to condensation on the court... on an aircraft carrier... on the water...
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: mu_hilltopper on June 11, 2014, 08:29:47 AM
Quote from: TJ on June 11, 2014, 02:48:40 AM
Do you get a big RPI bump from losses?  We're 5-11 against UL since Wade left, including a sad 2-5 recently (under Buzz).  Sure there have been many exciting games, but mostly they've been heartbreaking for us.  We haven't won a close game against them since 2004.  And we lost by 19 or more 4 times!


This is why I don't want to see UL again.    We've been Louisville's bitch, plain and simple.  They have our number, and it's excruciating losing to them over and over.   I realize people don't like thinking that.

Yeah, yeah, you gotta play tough teams.  Let's play a different tough team.
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 13, 2014, 09:42:18 AM
SI has an article up about rivalries they would like to see renewed. 8th on the list is ND-Marquette:

Irish coach Mike Brey has said on multiple occasions that he wanted to schedule some of the Catholic schools that constitute the new Big East and that served as peers and rivals for his program when it was a part of that league. Milwaukee might not be the best place to start if the aim is to make appearances in fertile recruiting areas. But there's the colorful history with former coaches Al McGuire and Digger Phelps, new Marquette coach Steve Wojciechowski and Brey are linked by their time at Duke (Brey was an assistant during two of Wojciechowski's seasons as a player, and games between the Golden Eagles and Fighting Irish were typically entertaining in the final years of the old Big East. The series was 118 games old when it was paused after the 2012-13 season due to Notre Dame's move to the ACC. It should get started again sooner than later.

http://college-basketball.si.com/2014/06/12/duke-maryland-kentucky-indiana-lead-10-rivalry-matchups-we-want-to-see/
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: The Equalizer on June 13, 2014, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: barfolomew on June 10, 2014, 11:42:16 AM
Should also prove to be a slight bump for MU's RPI for the next four years.


Only if Georgetown wins. 
Title: Re: Syracuse-Georgetown renew rivalry
Post by: mu72warrior on June 13, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
I'd like to see Louisville, home and home series
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