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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: keefe on June 09, 2014, 08:53:40 PM

Title: Carlino Mention
Post by: keefe on June 09, 2014, 08:53:40 PM
More of a scoring threat than Derrick Wilson, evidently.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/06/06/starting-five-top-impact-transfers-in-2014-15/9864805/

Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: 77ncaachamps on June 09, 2014, 08:57:57 PM
uh,

NO DOY.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: We R Final Four on June 09, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Quote from: keefe on June 09, 2014, 08:53:40 PM
More of a scoring threat than Derrick Wilson, evidently.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2014/06/06/starting-five-top-impact-transfers-in-2014-15/9864805/


Not possible......especially from the charity stripe.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 09, 2014, 09:13:42 PM
Says he will team with Derrick Wilson. I guess that means (unless Wojo is insane or intentionally throwing games) that they'll be teaming up behind Magic.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: Class71 on June 09, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
It is a start but how is his efficiency?
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: keefe on June 09, 2014, 11:07:10 PM
No mention of game changing defense, however.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: thanooj on June 09, 2014, 11:29:41 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on June 09, 2014, 08:57:57 PM
uh,

NO DOY.

(No Doy is awesome.  I lol'd out loud)
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
Quote from: keefe on June 09, 2014, 11:07:10 PM
No mention of game changing defense, however.
Agreed.

Derrick Wilson can still play Wojo type Duke style lock down defense every trip down. In fact, I think most of MU's guards can.

Especially Mayo and J. Dawson. Great defensive mentality and stance and they move well laterally and stay on their man.

The only negative is the rules changes in CBB with hand checking and the body lean or bump when driving in the lane.

It is getting to be like the NBA in this no touch stuff. This theory that BBall is a non-contact sport is flimsy. But many people think that way and the rules reflect that.

With no natural shot-blocker of consistent contester of shots MU will have to have any guard they have that log major minutes be able to guard.

In that regard D.Wilson might be superior to Carlino...in that aspect. But you do need to put the ball in the basket too.   
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:06:33 AM
Quote from: Class71 on June 09, 2014, 10:06:08 PM
It is a start but how is his efficiency?
If he can shoot from that spot...it is "efficent" enough from what we have witnessed the last two years.

Just the threat to hit an open shot much less a 3 is fine by me.

I am very curious to see where the bulk of the scoring will come from. Will it be from the backcourt or the frontcourt?

UConn showed you can get in the tournament with strong guard play and will your bigs to do their part and get it done.

I think Coach Wojo can be another Kevin Ollie. . . and first year wonder if he is creative and instills his competitive mind-set and fire in his new team and this program.

We'll see...
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 12:06:51 AM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
Agreed.

Derrick Wilson can still play Wojo type Duke style lock down defense every trip down. In fact, I think most of MU's guards can.

Especially Mayo and J. Dawson. Great defensive mentality and stance and they move well laterally and stay on their man.

The only negative is the rules changes in CBB with hand checking and the body lean or bump when driving in the lane.

It is getting to be like the NBA in this no touch stuff. This theory that BBall is a non-contact sport is flimsy. But many people think that way and the rules reflect that.

With no natural shot-blocker of consistent contester of shots MU will have to have any guard they have that log major minutes be able to guard.

In that regard D.Wilson might be superior to Carlino...in that aspect. But you do need to put the ball in the basket too.   
We need an offensive threat at point guard. We cant play 4-5 again this coming year.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 10, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 12:06:51 AM
We need an offensive threat at point guard. We cant play 4-5 again this coming year.

At times last year, BYU thought that they were playing 1 on 5 with Carlino.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 10, 2014, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: 77ncaachamps on June 09, 2014, 08:57:57 PM
uh,

NO DOY.

Yeah, DOY!




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Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: Class71 on June 10, 2014, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:06:33 AM
If he can shoot from that spot...it is "efficent" enough from what we have witnessed the last two years.

Just the threat to hit an open shot much less a 3 is fine by me.

I am very curious to see where the bulk of the scoring will come from. Will it be from the backcourt or the frontcourt?

UConn showed you can get in the tournament with strong guard play and will your bigs to do their part and get it done.

I think Coach Wojo can be another Kevin Ollie. . . and first year wonder if he is creative and instills his competitive mind-set and fire in his new team and this program.

We'll see...

Agree but we need to manage expectations. Hope for the best but need to be realistic given missing 2 schollies.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 06:07:24 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 10, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
At times last year, BYU thought that they were playing 1 on 5 with Carlino.
Wojo's biggest challenge is to teach this young man to play in a team concept. Otherwise you are correct we will be no better off. Carlino is a one and done so he will have a limited window to show he can be unselfish.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on June 10, 2014, 06:36:51 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 10, 2014, 04:54:23 PM
At times last year, BYU thought that they were playing 1 on 5 with Carlino.

That's been the m.o. at each of his stops, and there have been many.  Maybe his final collegiate head coach can make it sink in, if not he will be on the bench.  Up to him.
Title: Re: Carlino Mention
Post by: barfolomew on June 10, 2014, 07:36:08 PM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:06:33 AM
UConn showed you can get in the tournament with strong guard play and will your bigs to do their part and get it done.

I think Coach Wojo can be another Kevin Ollie. . . and first year wonder if he is creative and instills his competitive mind-set and fire in his new team and this program.

We'll see...

OK, let's not fall into the same trap we did last offseason.
Despite a big loss (Vander), many on this board were talking about MU's final four run -- to mostly head nodding.

We have had a similar big loss this year in an entire coaching staff and a couple of promising newcomers (despite the wailing and gnashing of teeth to the contrary, Brent did not create the problems last year. He may have exacerbated them, but he did not create them. Short term, the departures are a loss).

Marquette will be counting on Juan Anderson to play a lot of meaningful minutes this year. Let that sink in for a moment.
I'm as big a Juan fan as you'll find, but three years later, we're all waiting for him to take the next step. Will that magic light suddenly come on this year? I sure as sh:t hope so...
Let's just say I've forced myself to temper my expectations for 2014-2015.


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