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Title: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: HutchwasClutch on June 03, 2014, 09:15:53 PM
Tip-off time not yet set.

Can't wait. 
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Smokin' Jae on June 03, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
No Luke Fischer then for this game. I know there had been some speculation by people on this board that we may try to push the game back until Luke is eligible. Will be a very tough assignment for Steve Taylor going up against Kaminsky.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: HutchwasClutch on June 03, 2014, 09:26:32 PM
No Luke Fischer then for this game. I know there had been some speculation by people on this board that we may try to push the game back until Luke is eligible. Will be a very tough assignment for Steve Taylor going up against Kaminsky.

Let's face it, with or without Luke playing that game, MU is going to have a very difficult time winning.  They're young, they're small, they'll be still acclimating themselves to Wojo and staff's system against a big, experienced, talented team, with a veteran coach whose players know his system inside and out.   The only thing they'll really have going that day is their athleticism and home court.  I'm not saying they won't win, anything can happen in college rivalry games, but it's not likely, especially that early in the year.  
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 03, 2014, 09:29:13 PM
As much as it pains me to say it, Wisconsin will be a top 10 if not top 5 team in the nation next season. Defeating them would be a huge coup
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: muhoosier260 on June 03, 2014, 09:35:49 PM
This game has always been the first or second saturday of December, depending how the days fall. I know Fischer is available after 1st semester, but when does that fall exactly? Big East play? After finals? After grades are posted? Regardless I don't think Fischer is the deciding factor here.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: HutchwasClutch on June 03, 2014, 09:48:00 PM
This game has always been the first or second saturday of December, depending how the days fall. I know Fischer is available after 1st semester, but when does that fall exactly? Big East play? After finals? After grades are posted? Regardless I don't think Fischer is the deciding factor here.

I would think as soon as exams are done for the school.  So I would think no later than a week or so before Christmas he'll be playing.  I doubt they'll have any pre-Christmas conference games, so hopefully two or three good warm up games for him before the Big East season.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: MUDPT on June 03, 2014, 11:03:53 PM
Finals are the next week.  So he would be eligible the next week.  Have we played Wisconsin recently at home this early in December?
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: MUfan12 on June 03, 2014, 11:28:03 PM
Finals are the next week.  So he would be eligible the next week.  Have we played Wisconsin recently at home this early in December?

Pretty much every year since 2003. They moved the game to the weekend before finals so the students will be there.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup on June 03, 2014, 11:41:10 PM
Pretty much every year since 2003. They moved the game to the weekend before finals so the students will be there.

This is correct. My freshman year in 2002, IIRC was the last year that MU-Bucky at home was AFTER Finals, and it was annoying waiting around for a few days when my friends couldn't do anything because they had finals, and couldn't go home because I was staying for the game. That game was played on December 14th, effectively the third weekend in December.

Since then, it's either been played on the first or second Saturday in December.

December 11th, 2004
December 9th, 2006
December 6th, 2008
December 11th, 2010
December 8th, 2012
December 6th, 2014
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: keefe on June 04, 2014, 01:20:18 AM
Marquette should alter the academic calendar by moving finals up a couple weeks so that Fischer can play in this game. What is Wild's email address?
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: NersEllenson on June 04, 2014, 08:28:54 AM
Marquette should alter the academic calendar by moving finals up a couple weeks so that Fischer can play in this game. What is Wild's email address?

I heard this was the final straw that broke Buzz's back....when he went to Wild and said he needed the academic calendar altered so Fischer could be eligible for Wisconsin game - and Wild said, "Sorry Buzz, no can do," - Buzz was off to VaTech.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Windyplayer on June 04, 2014, 09:23:19 AM
This is correct. My freshman year in 2002, IIRC was the last year that MU-Bucky at home was AFTER Finals, and it was annoying waiting around for a few days when my friends couldn't do anything because they had finals, and couldn't go home because I was staying for the game. That game was played on December 14th, effectively the third weekend in December.

Since then, it's either been played on the first or second Saturday in December.

December 11th, 2004
December 9th, 2006
December 6th, 2008
December 11th, 2010
December 8th, 2012
December 6th, 2014
You couldn't find one drinking buddy for those few days? A damn shame, a damn shame.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 04, 2014, 09:46:43 AM
I heard this was the final straw that broke Buzz's back....when he went to Wild and said he needed the academic calendar altered so Fischer could be eligible for Wisconsin game - and Wild said, "Sorry Buzz, no can do," - Buzz was off to VaTech.

Actually, Buzz left when a post season dinner with Fr Wild turned ugly. The good Father had been reading Scoop that day and over cocktails questioned why Magic Dawson didn't play 30 minutes per game. Buzz politely replied that he wasn't ready. Already in his cups, Wild found Buzz's reply unacceptable. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Father persisted, unwilling to accept the explanation given by Marquette's most successful basketball coach in nearly 40 years.

"I want me some Dawson! I need me some Dawson!" he shrieked.

 Trying to calm the situation, Buzz joked "If I didn't know better, Bob, I'd think you were accusing me of throwing games!"

 "Sorry, Buzz, but that's exactly what I'm doing. My man Ners says you're in the tank!"

 "Ners? Who the frack is Ners?"

 "He's my guy, Buzz - ignore him at your own peril!"

"Maybe it's time for my boot heels to be wanderin'"

"Don't let the door hit ya on the way out"

Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: The Lens on June 04, 2014, 09:55:32 AM
Actually, Buzz left when a post season dinner with Fr Wild turned ugly. The good Father had been reading Scoop that day and over cocktails questioned why Magic Dawson didn't play 30 minutes per game. Buzz politely replied that he wasn't ready. Already in his cups, Wild found Buzz's reply unacceptable. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Father persisted, unwilling to accept the explanation given by Marquette's most successful basketball coach in nearly 40 years.

"I want me some Dawson! I need me some Dawson!" he shrieked.

 Trying to calm the situation, Buzz joked "If I didn't know better, Bob, I'd think you were accusing me of throwing games!"

 "Sorry, Buzz, but that's exactly what I'm doing. My man Ners says you're in the tank!"

 "Ners? Who the frack is Ners?"

 "He's my guy, Buzz - ignore him at your own peril!"

"Maybe it's time for my boot heels to be wanderin'"

"Don't let the door hit ya on the way out"



Lenny, this is pure fiction.  It's already been discussed how Ners wrote in a public forum that Buzz reads regularly that Derrick was the next Aaron Craft.  Buzz was just following Ners instructions. 
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 09:58:58 AM
I hate losing to Wisconsin, as everybody here does. I fear this could be quite a beatdown. With Kaminsky and their other bigs, a very bad matchup for us unless our guards go bonkers.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Nukem2 on June 04, 2014, 10:01:52 AM
Finals are the next week.  So he would be eligible the next week.  Have we played Wisconsin recently at home this early in December?
Finals go through Saturday, 12/13.  He won't be eligible to play until after that.  Also, final time for posting grades is noon on the 16th.  He will be be able to play against Arizona State on the 16th....
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 04, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
My boss (UW alum) is already complaining it's MU's fault that this game is the same day as the B1G football championship
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 04, 2014, 10:18:48 AM
My boss (UW alum) is already complaining it's MU's fault that this game is the same day as the B1G football championship

Maybe they'd rather play on January 1 when their football team won't be playing...
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Nukem2 on June 04, 2014, 10:23:38 AM
My boss (UW alum) is already complaining it's MU's fault that this game is the same day as the B1G football championship
No problem as Bucky won't be in that Big 10/14 championship game anyway...
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: GGGG on June 04, 2014, 10:26:27 AM
No problem as Bucky won't be in that Big 10/14 championship game anyway...


Hmmmm....I wouldn't be too sure about that.  They'll be the early season favorite out of the West and their schedule is pretty favorable.  (Including Nebraska at home.)
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: wadesworld on June 04, 2014, 10:58:49 AM

Hmmmm....I wouldn't be too sure about that.  They'll be the early season favorite out of the West and their schedule is pretty favorable.  (Including Nebraska at home.)

Yeah, their schedule is a complete joke.  If they're able to miraculously beat LSU, they very well may be undefeated going into the B1G Championship game, where OSU will beat them by 17+.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: MUDagwood on June 04, 2014, 11:08:20 AM
Has it been confirmed that the ASU game is in fact on 12/16? Any other schedule tidbits out there?
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: Class71 on June 04, 2014, 11:12:19 AM
I hate losing to Wisconsin, as everybody here does. I fear this could be quite a beatdown. With Kaminsky and their other bigs, a very bad matchup for us unless our guards go bonkers.

Well an early season learning experience is better than a late one. I don't expect them to win but with our new coach there is a chance we keep it reasonably close. I will be happy with a moral victory on this one.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 04, 2014, 12:14:31 PM
I found both of Ners and Lenny's stories amusing. +1 to you both.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: keefe on June 04, 2014, 01:46:37 PM
Actually, Buzz left when a post season dinner with Fr Wild turned ugly. The good Father had been reading Scoop that day and over cocktails questioned why Magic Dawson didn't play 30 minutes per game. Buzz politely replied that he wasn't ready. Already in his cups, Wild found Buzz's reply unacceptable. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over again Father persisted, unwilling to accept the explanation given by Marquette's most successful basketball coach in nearly 40 years.

"I want me some Dawson! I need me some Dawson!" he shrieked.

 Trying to calm the situation, Buzz joked "If I didn't know better, Bob, I'd think you were accusing me of throwing games!"

 "Sorry, Buzz, but that's exactly what I'm doing. My man Ners says you're in the tank!"

 "Ners? Who the frack is Ners?"

 "He's my guy, Buzz - ignore him at your own peril!"

"Maybe it's time for my boot heels to be wanderin'"

"Don't let the door hit ya on the way out"



I love Scoop. God help me but I love it so...


(http://31.media.tumblr.com/86e699fea32791268a20fb1e2bca10a6/tumblr_mm5033rz5k1qghl49o1_r2_500.gif)
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: NersEllenson on June 04, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
I found both of Ners and Lenny's stories amusing. +1 to you both.

Agree...Lenny did author a very nice comedic piece as well.  And, glad nobody needed the teal sarcasm detector to understand the sarcasm/humor involved in both our posts.  In my view, teal truly should never be used....sarcasm is intended to NOT be pointed out as being sarcastic.

ON another note....Magic Dawson sure does have a nice ring to it.  I look forward to John proving me right about his talents over the next 3 years..he'll be a really good player for MU over the course of his career.  Sad, though, that Buzz largely wasted his freshman season.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: bilsu on June 04, 2014, 08:53:53 PM
I hate losing to Wisconsin, as everybody here does. I fear this could be quite a beatdown. With Kaminsky and their other bigs, a very bad matchup for us unless our guards go bonkers.
It could be a beatdown, but we lost only by 6 last year at their place. Who knows what would of happened, if Kaminsky had missed that three with about 2 minutes to go?
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: MU82 on June 09, 2014, 05:18:21 PM
It could be a beatdown, but we lost only by 6 last year at their place. Who knows what would of happened, if Kaminsky had missed that three with about 2 minutes to go?

Nice positive comment, and I hope you're right to be optimistic.

It's not easy for me to think we'll be more ready for Wisconsin in December 2014 -- with an entirely new coaching staff, without any proven frontcourt players and even without Fischer -- but maybe we will be.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:46:04 AM
Bucky won't be as Sucky as some of you think when they roll in...that will be a great ballclub coming in here.

That will be a showdown, but a very tough game to win. Badgers could win a National Title.

Yes, there. I said it...and I mean it. No shame in it. I respect them. After all they are our Winconsinite basketball cousins.

I am MU through and through..but when it comes tournament time I pull for both Universities if they are in the dance.
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 10, 2014, 01:04:11 AM
Bucky won't be as Sucky as some of you think when they roll in...that will be a great ballclub coming in here.

That will be a showdown, but a very tough game to win. Badgers could win a National Title.

Yes, there. I said it...and I mean it. No shame in it. I respect them. After all they are our Winconsinite basketball cousins.

I am MU through and through..but when it comes tournament time I pull for both Universities if they are in the dance.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130809234255/glee/images/2/2b/Getout.gif)

 ;D
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: 94Warrior on June 10, 2014, 10:02:39 AM
Bucky won't be as Sucky as some of you think when they roll in...that will be a great ballclub coming in here.

That will be a showdown, but a very tough game to win. Badgers could win a National Title.

Yes, there. I said it...and I mean it. No shame in it. I respect them. After all they are our Winconsinite basketball cousins.

I am MU through and through..but when it comes tournament time I pull for both Universities if they are in the dance.


Welcome to my ignore list!
Title: Re: Bucky is here December 6
Post by: MUfan12 on June 10, 2014, 10:48:48 AM
Yes, there. I said it...and I mean it. No shame in it. I respect them. After all they are our Winconsinite basketball cousins.

I am MU through and through..but when it comes tournament time I pull for both Universities if they are in the dance.

No. Just, no.