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Title: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU Buff on May 23, 2014, 12:19:44 AM
Loyola Marymount transfer Gabe Levin (6'7", 230) averaged 11 and 7 rebounds as a freshman. He's originally from Oak Park, IL, and is visiting Marquette June 4th. He is also planning visits to Notre Dame and Northwestern.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/469647066403442688?p=v (https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/469647066403442688?p=v)
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Galway Eagle on May 23, 2014, 12:41:25 AM
Knew him in HS. Not immediately because I was old but met him a couple times, nice guy.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 23, 2014, 01:57:33 AM
Don't know much about him, but he seems to be an elite rebounder for his age and size. Hung 14/14 on Pittsburgh in the non-con season. Grabbed 14 rebounds in a game three different times. Seems like a kid with a lot of upside.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 23, 2014, 10:33:03 AM
(http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Gabe+Levin+WCC+Basketball+Tournament+Quarterfinals+nAXM7sBmrFRl.jpg)
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on May 23, 2014, 10:39:29 AM
Levin, Cohen...a law firm?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on May 23, 2014, 11:00:05 AM
Quote from: keefe on May 23, 2014, 10:39:29 AM
Levin, Cohen...a law firm?

Damn! There's hope for Marquette yet!

What next? We gonna steal some recruits from Yeshiva U?!?!?!
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on May 23, 2014, 11:07:16 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 23, 2014, 11:00:05 AM
Damn! There's hope for Marquette yet!

What next? We gonna steal some recruits from Yeshiva U?!?!?!

Fischer and Noskowiak as Shabbos Goyim?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on May 23, 2014, 11:18:23 AM
Quote from: keefe on May 23, 2014, 11:07:16 AM
Fischer and Noskowiak as Shabbos Goyim?

I like the cut of your jib, keefer!
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MUfan12 on May 23, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 23, 2014, 10:39:29 AM
Levin, Cohen...a law firm?

The Marquette Maccabees.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 23, 2014, 12:20:41 PM
A return of Niv Berkowitz?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 23, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
What's the probability of NU?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: frozena pizza on May 23, 2014, 03:46:05 PM
I like Cohen Carlino & Levin LLP.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Anti-Dentite on May 27, 2014, 01:57:18 PM
We could really use Levin, it would even the classes out a little bit and he had some good freshman numbers. I think it would be a good get for MU.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: thehammock on May 27, 2014, 02:20:44 PM
Should take a good look at Tim Williams from Samford.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on May 27, 2014, 02:25:24 PM
Quote from: frozena pizza on May 23, 2014, 03:46:05 PM
I like Cohen Carlino & Levin LLP.

We need to sign Noskowiak's AAU pal from Florida, Haanif Cheatham. Then you have a real law firm with teeth and truth in advertising:

Cohen Carlino Levin Cheatham
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: avid1010 on May 27, 2014, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: keefe on May 27, 2014, 02:25:24 PM
We need to sign Noskowiak's AAU pal from Florida, Haanif Cheatham. Then you have a real law firm with teeth and truth in advertising:

Cohen Carlino Levin Cheatham
remarkably close in spelling to the Car Talk staff credits - legal council - Dewey, Cheetham & Howe
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on May 27, 2014, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: avid1010 on May 27, 2014, 02:33:21 PM
remarkably close in spelling to the Car Talk staff credits - legal council - Dewey, Cheetham & Howe

Cheating Ham reminds me of an American Jewish guy playing baseball in Japan. Micah Franklin was playing in Japan's Pacific League while I was living in Tokyo. Appropriately, he of course played for the Nippon Ham Fighters. Unfortunately, his struggle delivered only mixed results as the latest intel reports that the Japanese continue to eat ham. We should still salute the valiant effort. Mazel Tov, Micah!

(http://infieldfly.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/ham-fighters2.gif)

Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Anti-Dentite on May 27, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
Quote from: thehammock on May 27, 2014, 02:20:44 PM
Should take a good look at Tim Williams from Samford.
12/28 vs. MU 16 points on 6-9 shooting, 4-6 from the line. 9 rebounds, 2 offensive. 1 assist. 1 steal. 1 turnover. 4 fouls in a 71-48 loss to MU.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 31, 2014, 09:33:27 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 23, 2014, 03:28:39 PM
What's the probability of NU?

Pretty good, Gabe has a visit lined up with them on June 8th - that's if he can get away from Marquette without making a commitment during his visit on June 4th.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: bilsu on May 31, 2014, 05:48:17 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 31, 2014, 09:33:27 AM
Pretty good, Gabe has a visit lined up with them on June 8th - that's if he can get away from Marquette without making a commitment during his visit on June 4th.
There is no need for him to commit to MU, before he takes all of his visits. MU has two open scholarships and he is not likely to have to worry about an MU scholarship dissappearing.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: muwar2003 on May 31, 2014, 07:39:58 PM
I think the thought is to get a commitment from him before he goes to another school and and that school sways him.  Let's get him and them concentrate on 2015.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GOO on June 04, 2014, 09:13:33 AM
Not a nice day for a visit as it is supposed to rain and be cold today. 
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GGGG on June 04, 2014, 09:14:54 AM
Quote from: GOO on June 04, 2014, 09:13:33 AM
Not a nice day for a visit as it is supposed to rain and be cold today. 


He's from Chicago and also considering ND and Northwestern.  I'm pretty sure the weather will play no part in his decision.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Tugg Speedman on June 04, 2014, 09:44:04 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 04, 2014, 09:14:54 AM

He's from Chicago and also considering ND and Northwestern.  I'm pretty sure the weather will play no part in his decision.

+1
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Nukem2 on June 04, 2014, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 04, 2014, 09:14:54 AM

He's from Chicago and also considering ND and Northwestern.  I'm pretty sure the weather will play no part in his decision.
Well, he is considering Georgia Tech as well.  So, weather could play a factor ( remember, he did play at Loyola Marymount ).
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GOO on June 04, 2014, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 04, 2014, 09:14:54 AM

He's from Chicago and also considering ND and Northwestern.  I'm pretty sure the weather will play no part in his decision.
Disagree.  The emotional experience and overall experience one takes away from something like this can be altered by the weather.  These decisions often come down to "how I feel" about a particular school, coach, etc.

A nice 75 degree day walking campus and between buildings, and seeing co-eds, versus a rainy day walking with your head down and everyone bundled up and less friendly, can have an impact.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GGGG on June 04, 2014, 10:11:43 AM
OK...feel free to worry about it then.  I choose not to.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU1980 on June 04, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: GOO on June 04, 2014, 10:09:11 AM
Disagree.  The emotional experience and overall experience one takes away from something like this can be altered by the weather.  These decisions often come down to "how I feel" about a particular school, coach, etc.

A nice 75 degree day walking campus and between buildings, and seeing co-eds, versus a rainy day walking with your head down and everyone bundled up and less friendly, can have an impact.


Well said.  Coaches put in a tremendous effort to make sure everything goes as perfectly as possible on a visit, but unfortunately they can't control the weather.  Yes the recruit knows it can be rainy and cold in June in South Bend, Milwaukee and Evanston, but walking around on campus in bad weather can definitely affect your perception of the place, especially if it was perfect weather for your other visits where everyone is walking around campus in a great mood because of the weather.

Now can Wojo overcome the bad weather and still get Levin?  Of course he can, but I don't think there is any coach that wouldn't prefer 75 and sunny over 50's and rain when a top recruit visits.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: moomoo on June 04, 2014, 10:44:10 AM
LMU Transfer Gabe Levin Talks Upcoming Officials
June 4th, 2014 1:56 am

Loyola-Marymount transfer Gabe Levin set up official visits to Marquette, Northwestern, Notre Dame and Georgia Tech—in that order.

In his freshman year at LMU, the 6-foot-7 Levin averaged 11.1 points, 7.1 rebounds, and earned WCC All-Freshman team honors.

When the school fired head coach Max Good, he opted to transfer and received obvious high major interest.

"I don't think a new environment will hurt me," Levin said. "When you go into an unfamiliar place, you have to perform that much better." Levin said the transfer year would give him an opportunity to refine his game, but past performance already hinted at what he could bring each school.

His process began with simple criteria. All of the involved schools, he said, have good enough academics and important alumni connections for life after basketball.

Then, there was the most important quality: "All of them are stable. They're pretty young players' coaches who can build great relationships with you."

That said, the four finalists for his commitment hold very different appeal for Levin, who contrasted their styles.

Marquette earned the first visit, which will take place from June Wednesday-Friday. New head coach Steve Wojciechowski can gain immediate credibility by picking up a strong transfer.

"He definitely has a plan," Levin said. "He's been an assistant coach at Duke and he'll only strive. He won't have any problems stepping right in."

The Northwestern visit will take place shortly after, with the Wildcats thirsting for a local transfer commit. Their style would work for Levin, a power forward who can step outside

Levin praised NU for its local appeal, and geography should be a likely pitch for second-year head coach Chris Collins and his staff.

"I've just been talking to Collins a lot," Levin said. "He has great assistants who know what they're doing. They're down to earth guys and it's been fun to get to know them."

Coach Mike Brey and Notre Dame, though, might have the most specific and enticing pitch. Levin will visit South Bend on June 14 with an understanding of his potential.

"Coach Brey has been in the league for 14 years, which is great, and he's successful when he gets transfers," Levin said. "They sent me something on transfers and how successful they are after their year of redshirting. That's very intriguing."

Though Georgia Tech might lack in terms of geography and reputation, Brian Gregory presented some unique qualities—making them a potential underdog in his recruitment. Levin will set an exact visit time with them soon.

"I like [Gregory] a lot," Levin said. "What stood out is that he was always trying to break down my game. It's not just blowing smoke that you get sometimes with recruiting. He's got a nice plan."

A coveted recruit, for obvious reasons, Levin will be among the most important current transfers to watch this month.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 11:10:01 AM
Quote from: MU1980 on June 04, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
Well said.  Coaches put in a tremendous effort to make sure everything goes as perfectly as possible on a visit, but unfortunately they can't control the weather.  Yes the recruit knows it can be rainy and cold in June in South Bend, Milwaukee and Evanston, but walking around on campus in bad weather can definitely affect your perception of the place, especially if it was perfect weather for your other visits where everyone is walking around campus in a great mood because of the weather.

Now can Wojo overcome the bad weather and still get Levin?  Of course he can, but I don't think there is any coach that wouldn't prefer 75 and sunny over 50's and rain when a top recruit visits.

I am totally disgusted that Wojo cannot change the weather.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 04, 2014, 11:13:06 AM
Crean thought he was a weather changer.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 04, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 04, 2014, 11:13:06 AM
Crean thought he was a weather changer.

He was good at starting $hitstorms.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 04, 2014, 12:20:23 PM
I never like having the first visit. Too much time for the recruit to forget. But you do get to set the standard. Let's hope Wojo is up for it.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 04, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
I'm very curious as to why Georgia Tech is even being considered.  It's clear (via his 4 choices) that he would prefer the Midwest (us, Northwestern, Notre Dame).  One could even make argument that he wishes to stay close to home.  Brian Gregory hasn't exactly been winning big there.

Important thing to realize is that having Wojo is giving us a shot.  I hope he finds his fit, and, hopefully, that fit is at Marquette.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU1980 on June 04, 2014, 01:08:07 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 11:10:01 AM
I am totally disgusted that Wojo cannot change the weather.

I think once he has been a head coach for a couple of years he will develop the ability to change the weather. It just takes some head coaching experience. 
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: MU1980 on June 04, 2014, 01:08:07 PM
I think once he has been a head coach for a couple of years he will develop the ability to change the weather. It just takes some head coaching experience. 

Damn ... I knew we shoulda hired Cuonzo!
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GooooMarquette on June 04, 2014, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 11:10:01 AM
I am totally disgusted that Wojo cannot change the weather.

You'd think K would have taught him that.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 04, 2014, 01:26:18 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on June 04, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
I'm very curious as to why Georgia Tech is even being considered.  It's clear (via his 4 choices) that he would prefer the Midwest (us, Northwestern, Notre Dame).  One could even make argument that he wishes to stay close to home.  Brian Gregory hasn't exactly been winning big there.

Important thing to realize is that having Wojo is giving us a shot.  I hope he finds his fit, and, hopefully, that fit is at Marquette.

The other thing all four schools have in common is strong acadmeics. He did mention in the previously posted article he wanted "good alumni connections for life after basketball." Combine that with a positive relationship with Coach Gregory and Georgia Tech makes the cut.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 04, 2014, 01:39:41 PM
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on June 04, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
I'm very curious as to why Georgia Tech is even being considered.  It's clear (via his 4 choices) that he would prefer the Midwest (us, Northwestern, Notre Dame).  One could even make argument that he wishes to stay close to home.  Brian Gregory hasn't exactly been winning big there.

Important thing to realize is that having Wojo is giving us a shot.  I hope he finds his fit, and, hopefully, that fit is at Marquette.

Probably an HS connection because Shumpert went there to. 
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 03:12:02 PM
I gotta get in touch with this kid and tell him how badly MU Catholic girls want to be with Jewish guys!

They were practically throwing themselves at me way back when.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU1980 on June 04, 2014, 05:09:41 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 11:10:01 AM
I am totally disgusted that Wojo cannot change the weather.

It looks like maybe he is able to change the weather.  I thought the forecast was for cloudy and rainy all day and it has turned out to be a beautiful day.  Coincidence?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 04, 2014, 05:22:47 PM
How else could Crean be so tan in Milwaukee?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 04, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
You've got to like MU's shot if playing time is a criteria.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 04, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 03:12:02 PM
I gotta get in touch with this kid and tell him how badly MU Catholic girls want to be with Jewish guys!

They were practically throwing themselves at me way back when.


Nah, chicks dig kosher hot dogs, aina?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 04, 2014, 07:46:49 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 03:12:02 PM
I gotta get in touch with this kid and tell him how badly MU Catholic girls want to be with Jewish guys!

They were practically throwing themselves at me way back when.

And who could blame them? They are women after all

(http://momentmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/retro-jewfro.jpg)
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MuMark on June 04, 2014, 07:48:59 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-oak-park-forward-gabe-levin-set-to-visit-northwestern-notre-dame-marquette-20140604,0,2651292.story
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 04, 2014, 10:57:51 PM
Quote from: MuMark on June 04, 2014, 07:48:59 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/chi-oak-park-forward-gabe-levin-set-to-visit-northwestern-notre-dame-marquette-20140604,0,2651292.story

"Gabe Levin averaged nearly 20 points and 10 rebounds as a senior at Oak Park High School, yet college coaches responded with a yawn."

It's because our coach isn't well connected and he put all his eggs in one basket with our point guard (plays at Bradly) that year which took away from Levin's stardom. 
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 11:05:34 PM
Quote from: keefe on June 04, 2014, 07:46:49 PM
And who could blame them? They are women after all

(http://momentmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/retro-jewfro.jpg)

Jesus H. Christ (another member of the Tribe who made it big) ... where the hell did you get that picture of me when I was in college?!?!?!?

No teal. None at all!!
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: ATWizJr on June 05, 2014, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 03:12:02 PM
I gotta get in touch with this kid and tell him how badly MU Catholic girls want to be with Jewish guys!

They were practically throwing themselves at me way back when.
Probably couldn't resist that Jewfro you were rockin'.  BTW, if they were wearing knee socks and plaid skirts, those were HS girls, probably from HA.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: ATWizJr on June 06, 2014, 12:45:30 PM
Quote from: ATWizJr on June 05, 2014, 08:38:40 AM
  Probably couldn't resist that Jewfro you were rockin'.  BTW, if they were wearing knee socks and plaid skirts, those were HS girls, probably from HA.
anyone heard how the visit is going?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: dgies9156 on June 06, 2014, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 04, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
Damn ... I knew we shoulda hired Cuonzo!

Yeah, with that much hot air, Milwaukee could become a tropical paradise -- in January!
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MuMark on June 06, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
Nick Medline ‏@NickMedline  1h
Gabe Levin on what he liked about #Marquette trip: "Everything. They have a great plan in place w/ great facilities and people." NU next.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 06, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: MuMark on June 06, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
Nick Medline ‏@NickMedline  1h
Gabe Levin on what he liked about #Marquette trip: "Everything. They have a great plan in place w/ great facilities and people." NU next.

Sounds positive. Let's hope he learned to love the Jesuits when he was at LMU
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 07, 2014, 08:24:40 AM
Quote from: MuMark on June 06, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
Nick Medline ‏@NickMedline  1h
Gabe Levin on what he liked about #Marquette trip: "Everything. They have a great plan in place w/ great facilities and people." NU next.




Sounds like thanks, but no thanks.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: bilsu on June 07, 2014, 08:57:24 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 07, 2014, 08:24:40 AM



Sounds like thanks, but no thanks.
He has scheduled four for visits and there is no reason for him to commit before they are all done. There is no one else available to take away his scholarship at any of the schools. Make the visits and make sure your choice is right. I am more worried about Notre dame than I am NU.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 07, 2014, 10:54:47 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 04, 2014, 01:26:18 PM
He did mention in the previously posted article he wanted "good alumni connections for life after basketball."

Then MU is the right choice. All any young man need do is be graduated then be given the keys to a Scoop Membership. Scoop: The Ultimate Alumni Networking Machine.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: 79Warrior on June 07, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 07, 2014, 08:24:40 AM



Sounds like thanks, but no thanks.

Yep.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: TedBaxter on June 07, 2014, 04:57:12 PM
I think MU has as good a chance as any of the three based on the current and future rosters, but I'll say there's often more to making a decision than roster makeup.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 07, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 07, 2014, 08:24:40 AM



Sounds like thanks, but no thanks.

You have selective hearing.

When Noskowiak and Cohen decided to reopen recruiting after Buzz left but said they would still consider Marquette, were you thinking "Sounds like thanks, but no thanks"? I admit I was.

I try not to read too much into 140-character tweets posted by kids.

Maybe Levin will end up at Marquette and maybe he won't. I certainly don't look at that tweet and think: "Oh, he already has made his mind up about us."

I mean, short of committing right on the spot and announcing he would forego visits to every other school on his list -- something very few recruits do -- what was he supposed to say?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 07, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on June 07, 2014, 08:24:40 AM



Sounds like thanks, but no thanks.

Quote from: 79Warrior on June 07, 2014, 01:56:17 PM
Yep.

Wow, crack withdrawal must be a bitch to put you guys into such a negative mood.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 07, 2014, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 07, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
what was he supposed to say?

Quite frankly I expected some tribute paid to the brave men of Scoop and how he looks forward to the commentary found here making him a better athlete, scholar, husband, and father. His failure to even acknowledge our existence is disturbing. I am comfortable with Mr. Levin taking his talents elsewhere and I trust I speak for the equally outraged Scoopers who have lost their voice at this egregious omission. 
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 07, 2014, 10:23:53 PM
Quote from: keefe on June 07, 2014, 09:34:56 PM
Quite frankly I expected some tribute paid to the brave men of Scoop and how he looks forward to the commentary found here making him a better athlete, scholar, husband, and father. His failure to even acknowledge our existence is disturbing. I am comfortable with Mr. Levin taking his talents elsewhere and I trust I speak for the equally outraged Scoopers who have lost their voice at this egregious omission. 

Amen, Brother Keefe!
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 06:11:55 PM
Gabe will be 21 by the time he gets to play at his next school(hopefully Marquette). Looks like he did a PG year at a prep school in Ct.  In some respects this is the first big recruiting battle for Wojo. We are essentially in an even battle with 3 other schools, all have pluses and minuses. Will be interesting to see the result.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: bilsu on June 09, 2014, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 06:11:55 PM
Gabe will be 21 by the time he gets to play at his next school(hopefully Marquette). Looks like he did a PG year at a prep school in Ct.  In some respects this is the first big recruiting battle for Woo. We are essentially in an even battle with 3 other schools, all have pluses and minuses. Will be interesting to see the result.
I do not remember MU ever winning a recruiting battle with Notre Dame. It will tell me something about Wojo, if Levin picks MU.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 09, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: bilsu on June 09, 2014, 08:12:10 PM
I do not remember MU ever winning a recruiting battle with Notre Dame. It will tell me something about Wojo, if Levin picks MU.

I'm not sure MU and ND ever went after the same type of players. It was before my time but I seem to recall MU went after Dantley and ND was in on Bo.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Nukem2 on June 09, 2014, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: keefe on June 09, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
I'm not sure MU and ND ever went after the same type of players. It was before my time but I seem to recall MU went after Dantley and ND was in on Bo.
Hank Raymond's lost a couple to ND...Donald Royal for one...And Buzz lost Zach Auguste to ND.  Others as well over the years.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: JakeBarnes on June 09, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Quote from: bilsu on June 09, 2014, 08:12:10 PM
I do not remember MU ever winning a recruiting battle with Notre Dame. It will tell me something about Wojo, if Levin picks MU.

and if he doesn't it's clear that Wojo just cooled on him.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
Here is how Loyola has replaced Levin
http://www.lmulions.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/052814aab.html

I wonder if we are looking at Internationals?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 09, 2014, 11:04:17 PM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
Here is how Loyola has replaced Levin
http://www.lmulions.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/052814aab.html

I wonder if we are looking at Internationals?

Well, there you have it. LMU is pounding the international pavement and unearthing gems like these two bruisers. These guys have game stamped all over their dog eared passports. Meanwhile, our coach sits at home watching Gilligan's Island reruns, satisfied with his short roster.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 11:51:39 PM
Quote from: keefe on June 09, 2014, 11:04:17 PM
Well, there you have it. LMU is pounding the international pavement and unearthing gems like these two bruisers. These guys have game stamped all over their dog eared passports. Meanwhile, our coach sits at home watching Gilligan's Island reruns, satisfied with his short roster.
Lets not let this thread digress to a Ginger versus Mary Ann versus Mrs. Howell again.  Although  I agree, it seems like international is at least worth exploring.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:18:49 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 11:51:39 PM
Lets not let this thread digress to a Ginger versus Mary Ann versus Mrs. Howell again.  Although  I agree, it seems like international is at least worth exploring.
Of course it is!

and by the way....Ginger all the way!~  :0.... :)
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 10, 2014, 12:22:57 AM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:18:49 AM
Of course it is!

and by the way....Ginger all the way!~  :0.... :)

In my younger days it was Mary Ann. But as I have matured I have come to appreciate the tawdry sluttiness of Ginger. Mary Ann could make a mean coconut cream pie but Ginger served up sensuality on a sizzling hot plate. Yes, please.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:23:54 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
Here is how Loyola has replaced Levin
http://www.lmulions.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/052814aab.html

I wonder if we are looking at Internationals?
I would think so...and one would assume so.

There is a history of that here at MU a bit in the past. But I can see that has really not been neccesarily the case at Duke University where Coach Wojo came from.

And with his work with the Team USA you would think he would know all kinds of international players.

But at Duke there was no need for that and I am sure he was not in charge of the assigments of recruiting. One would have to assume that Coach K might have been. But we don't know for sure.

I would like to assume that is being looked at. But as I said, Duke had never had to worry about having to find and scour the world to get any kind of players.

Lets hope Wojo has delegated this responsibility unto others who can and who do have experience in this? Good question and a legitimate reason to be concerned?    
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 10, 2014, 07:31:02 AM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:23:54 AM
I would think so...and one would assume so.

There is a history of that here at MU a bit in the past. But I can see that has really not been neccesarily the case at Duke University where Coach Wojo came from.

And with his work with the Team USA you would think he would know all kinds of international players.

But at Duke there was no need for that and I am sure he was not in charge of the assigments of recruiting. One would have to assume that Coach K might have been. But we don't know for sure.

I would like to assume that is being looked at. But as I said, Duke had never had to worry about having to find and scour the world to get any kind of players.

Lets hope Wojo has delegated this responsibility unto others who can and who do have experience in this? Good question and a legitimate reason to be concerned?    

The first half hour of the 71st day of a head coach's tenure might be a bit of a short time frame to begin an examination of the boat for leaks, especially given the positive news to date regarding retention of the current players as well as recruits for 2014 and 2015.

Wojo seems to have decided to concentrate on the 2015 and 2016 classes instead of scraping the barrel for 2014.  I guess, in time, we'll all see how that works out.

Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: BCHoopster on June 10, 2014, 08:06:41 AM
I watched Gabe play last weekend on TV, he is a nice player but not a game changer.  I am not sure where he fits if MU signs Ellenson.  He probably needs a year to improve.  Has some hops,
showed no outside shot, can drive to the hoop.  With 5 scholarships left for next year, he is worth it.  More interesting is which coach he wants to play for?  I think basketball wise he will
be better off in the Big East.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: madtownwarrior on June 10, 2014, 08:06:44 AM
"The first half hour of the 71st day of a head coach's tenure"


Please no Buzzism's....
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: swoopem on June 10, 2014, 08:43:20 AM
Quote from: Nukem2 on June 09, 2014, 08:38:59 PM
Hank Raymond's lost a couple to ND...Donald Royal for one...And Buzz lost Zach Auguste to ND.  Others as well over the years.

I ran into Zach Auguste at a ND football tailgate last year and I was wearing my MU sweatshirt so we started talking. I asked him about Marquette and he said he really liked the school and players that we had at the time but when it came to Brent he said "that motha fukca's crazy". He basically said he didn't like how intense he was.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 10, 2014, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: swoopem on June 10, 2014, 08:43:20 AM
I ran into Zach Auguste at a ND football tailgate last year and I was wearing my MU sweatshirt so we started talking. I asked him about Marquette and he said he really liked the school and players that we had at the time but when it came to Brent he said "that motha fukca's crazy". He basically said he didn't like how intense he was.


Smart dude, that Auguste, aina?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on June 10, 2014, 09:28:57 AM
Quote from: keefe on June 09, 2014, 11:04:17 PM
Well, there you have it. LMU is pounding the international pavement and unearthing gems like these two bruisers. These guys have game stamped all over their dog eared passports. Meanwhile, our coach sits at home watching Gilligan's Island reruns, satisfied with his short roster.

having lived on Tobacco Road I can safely say that the show of choice is Mayberry RFD not Gilligan's Island
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: humanlung on June 10, 2014, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 09, 2014, 11:51:39 PM
Lets not let this thread digress to a Ginger versus Mary Ann versus Mrs. Howell again.  Although  I agree, it seems like international is at least worth exploring.

I am all over this idea.  And I say once again that at one point in time, Lovey was a 5 star!
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 10, 2014, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: humanlung on June 10, 2014, 11:20:00 AM
I am all over this idea.  And I say once again that at one point in time, Lovey was a 5 star!

Lovey as Ingénue

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRE08CTGCsHXoIIBNT1r4XPzV9_wCFJiupqOjSVpyGwjqijHi0eQg)




Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: mu03eng on June 10, 2014, 12:01:24 PM
Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on June 10, 2014, 12:18:49 AM
Of course it is!

and by the way....Ginger all the way!~  :0.... :)

Slight OT of the OT....but gingers are nature's wildcard....handle with care.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
Gabe Levin is quite the promoter. He has now said Northwestern exceed expectations. It is interesting that he was not a highly recruited prospect. He had offers from mid majors  like Hofstra James Madison etc. Clearly he exceeded expectations as a player. Seems like he is having some fun with all of this.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Galway Eagle on June 10, 2014, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
Gabe Levin is quite the promoter. He has now said Northwestern exceed expectations. It is interesting that he was not a highly recruited prospect. He had offers from mid majors  like Hofstra James Madison etc. Clearly he exceeded expectations as a player. Seems like he is having some fun with all of this.

In all fairness his expectations might not have been very high considering it's Northwestern Basketball
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 08:50:29 PM
Gabe Levin now saying he will not visit Georgia Tech. It is between Marquette,NU and Notre Dame. He liked the family atmosphere and weight and conditioning at NU. Will be interesting to see what he says about ND. Our chances  to recruit this young man are now 33 percent.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 15, 2014, 01:14:24 PM
Gabe Levin visiting ND this weekend. Decision is expected sometime this coming week.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 15, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 15, 2014, 01:14:24 PM
Gabe Levin visiting ND this weekend. Decision is expected sometime this coming week.

Survived Northwestern without a commitment. Notre Dame will be a bigger test.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Nukem2 on June 15, 2014, 01:51:46 PM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 10, 2014, 08:50:29 PM
Gabe Levin now saying he will not visit Georgia Tech. It is between Marquette,NU and Notre Dame. He liked the family atmosphere and weight and conditioning at NU. Will be interesting to see what he says about ND. Our chances  to recruit this young man are now 33 percent.
Actually, the chances are 0% or 100%.  This is not a random drawing.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 15, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
Of course he complimented Northwestern and Marquette, and he will do the same when he talks about Notre Dame. It's the smart thing to do, and it's probably true, too. He probably is (and will be) impressed with things about each of the three.

If he leaves ND without committing there, I like our chances. Although, as a fellow member of the Tribe, if I could have gotten a free Northwestern education and gotten to live so close to Chicago, I might have chosen that over a Catholic school.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on June 15, 2014, 07:21:05 PM
If Levin was a PG, the odds of us getting a commitment from him would be 100%

All three are fantastic universities.  He will get playing time and exposure at any of the schools.  However, Northwestern has never been to an NCAA tournament, and Notre Dame now has to compete with Syracuse, Duke, North Carolina, Louisville, Virginia and the rest of blue bloods of the ACC.  If the opportunity for winning/success is a major requirement, you'd think we would be the leader in that department.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 15, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 15, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
Of course he complimented Northwestern and Marquette, and he will do the same when he talks about Notre Dame. It's the smart thing to do, and it's probably true, too. He probably is (and will be) impressed with things about each of the three.

If he leaves ND without committing there, I like our chances. Although, as a fellow member of the Tribe, if I could have gotten a free Northwestern education and gotten to live so close to Chicago, I might have chosen that over a Catholic school.
I think your analysis is accurate and probably how he is looking at it.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MuMark on June 15, 2014, 10:19:09 PM
He left ND without committing......I doubt that means anything. He will now sit down with his family and decide where he wants to go.


I'm sure we will know this week
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 15, 2014, 10:28:56 PM
Quote from: MuMark on June 15, 2014, 10:19:09 PM
He left ND without committing......I doubt that means anything. He will now sit down with his family and decide where he wants to go.


I'm sure we will know this week

Did Wojo unleash the MU Honey Babes to escort him around campus to ensure he had a pleasant and informative visit?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: BCHoopster on June 15, 2014, 11:23:05 PM
Do not get to excited he is not a game changing type player, I look at him like a Jim Dudley type player, some hops, some skill, some ability, that is it.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 15, 2014, 11:56:05 PM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 15, 2014, 11:23:05 PM
Do not get to excited he is not a game changing type player, I look at him like a Jim Dudley type player, some hops, some skill, some ability, that is it.

....I'll take a kid who has size and averaged 11.1 points, 7.1 rebounds, and 1.2 blocks as a freshman for a solid mid major any day.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: MU82 on June 16, 2014, 12:38:30 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 15, 2014, 11:23:05 PM
Do not get to excited he is not a game changing type player, I look at him like a Jim Dudley type player, some hops, some skill, some ability, that is it.

Good teams need a great player or two, but they also need solid role players who are capable of doing a lot of things well. Gabe will be a nice addition to the Warriors if he chooses MU.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: BCHoopster on June 16, 2014, 07:54:41 AM
Quote from: MU82 on June 16, 2014, 12:38:30 AM
Good teams need a great player or two, but they also need solid role players who are capable of doing a lot of things well. Gabe will be a nice addition to the Warriors if he chooses MU.

He will fit that role.  He probably is better than Juan, so losing Juan add Gabe, lose Derrick add Nick, lose Todd need somebody and finally a big or two would help.  I have confidence in this
staff.  It might take a few years but it will happen, the staff or old college players are to good not to.  All had drive at college to be better, Travis and Brett Nelson are great additions.  I
think the staff can really relate to high school kids.  All young.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 16, 2014, 09:44:42 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 15, 2014, 11:23:05 PM
Do not get to excited he is not a game changing type player, I look at him like a Jim Dudley type player, some hops, some skill, some ability, that is it.

Actually, I see him as the opposite of Dudley.  Dudley was a fantastic athlete who was short in the skills department.  While Gabe has shown a strong skill set, but was under recruited due to a perceived lack of elite athleticism.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: BCHoopster on June 16, 2014, 09:49:45 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on June 16, 2014, 09:44:42 AM
Actually, I see him as the opposite of Dudley.  Dudley was a fantastic athlete who was short in the skills department.  While Gabe has shown a strong skill set, but was under recruited due to a perceived lack of elite athleticism.

The game I watched on TV last week, showed that he could drive to the hoop, make free throws, and dunk much like Jim Dudley.  Did not show much of an outside shot.  Gabe needs to get
much stronger, and improve his shot, he is a wing type player.  MU needs a four much like Ellenson.  Fisher, Ellenson, Burton, JJJ and Duane.  Like to see  a 2 guard who can shoot in this
recruiting class.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Dawson Rental on June 16, 2014, 09:56:36 AM
Quote from: Nukem2 on June 15, 2014, 01:51:46 PM
Actually, the chances are 0% or 100%.  This is not a random drawing.

This statement is as meaningless as it is incorrect.  The statement "the chances are 0% or 100%" argues that probability theory doesn't exist which isn't true.  Yes, it's not a random drawing, but the results of a random drawing are often used as a probabilities substitute when factors that would vary the chances among three possible outcomes are not well enough known to be quantified.  Since there are three schools still involved, the probabilities must be allocated among the three possibilities.  This board appears to lack any information providing an accurate appraisal of Mr. Levin's reaction to the three schools involved in order to make such a variance, so yeah, we have a one in three chance.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 16, 2014, 09:58:17 AM
Quote from: BCHoopster on June 15, 2014, 11:23:05 PM
Do not get to excited he is not a game changing type player, I look at him like a Jim Dudley type player, some hops, some skill, some ability, that is it.
If he turns out to be a Jim Dudley type player that would be a good outcome . I think he would be a nice addition to the team .
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 16, 2014, 10:24:27 AM
Quote from: Texas Western on June 16, 2014, 09:58:17 AM
If he turns out to be a Jim Dudley type player that would be a good outcome .

What, is Levin the kind of guy to harbor a meaningless grudge for decades?
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: brandx on June 16, 2014, 01:20:49 PM
I doubt if Levin would inspire anyone to bring back the "cloud piercer" nickname. One of my favorite MU nicknames ever.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: bilsu on June 16, 2014, 04:36:53 PM
Wojo said he would not just recruit bodies to fill a scholarship. I want him if Wojo wants him.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: keefe on June 16, 2014, 10:48:24 PM
Quote from: brandx on June 16, 2014, 01:20:49 PM
I doubt if Levin would inspire anyone to bring back the "cloud piercer" nickname. One of my favorite MU nicknames ever.

That was a great nick. Dudley found companionship with some of Marquette's most desirable women. I never got the full story on why he bore a grudge against the school and team. I would think that after almost 40 years he would have made some peace.

Perhaps the Goose can shed some light on the Dudley Displeasure
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 16, 2014, 11:14:16 PM
I think Gabe Levins  ultimate decision will tell us a lot about what he thinks of his own talent. It is clear that we offer him the most personal basketball upside. He will come here and have an immediate starting  or very significant role on a quality team that has a lot of visibility . He could best position himself for the next level with us if that is what he thinks of his game.

On the other hand, He will several people in front of him at the other two schools. If he is more in it for the academic prestige upgrade he will go to Northwestern/ND. As his immediate playing time will likely be less at those schools.  If he is not looking to ultimately play professionally they may be good choices for him.

The kid has worked hard to put himself in an enviable cant lose position no matter which choice he makes.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: bilsu on June 17, 2014, 07:07:48 AM
It would seem to me that if he wants to play professionally he will not shy away from competition team wise and league wise. Buzz is no longer here so there is no track record of sending players to the pros.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: GB Warrior on June 17, 2014, 07:15:48 AM
Not a talent evaluator, and I don't play one on the internet, but this seems much ado about nothing. Just a body.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 17, 2014, 08:14:39 AM
Quote from: keefe on June 16, 2014, 10:48:24 PM
That was a great nick. Dudley found companionship with some of Marquette's most desirable women. I never got the full story on why he bore a grudge against the school and team. I would think that after almost 40 years he would have made some peace.

Perhaps the Goose can shed some light on the Dudley Displeasure

Crash, I remember hearin' the story that Dudley was pissed because he thought the brothers were gettin' preferential treatment by Al and he was holdin' the short end of the stick. Just not sure if that was urban legend or fact.
Title: Re: Gabe Levin transfer possibility
Post by: Texas Western on June 17, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
Quote from: bilsu on June 17, 2014, 07:07:48 AM
It would seem to me that if he wants to play professionally he will not shy away from competition team wise and league wise. Buzz is no longer here so there is no track record of sending players to the pros.
What I am saying is he only has 3 years left and with us he has the highest probability of playing and building a track record of uptrend. Simply because we have very few big men and none on the horizon. At the other two schools it is a numbers game. Our league is plenty competitive.
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