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Title: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 13, 2014, 11:15:09 AM
Rutgers Throws Quarterback Nelson Off Team After Assault Arrest

May 13 (Bloomberg) -- Rutgers University dismissed transfer quarterback Philip Nelson from its football program, two days after the former University of Minnesota passer was arrested on probable assault charges following a fight that left another former football player from Minnesota in critical condition.

Nelson, 20, was arrested early on the morning of May 11 in his home town of Mankato, Minnesota, after police found 24-year-old Isaac Kolstad injured as a victim of an attack. Charges of third-degree assault were being requested against Nelson, the Mankato Department of Public Safety said on its website. A second suspect is still being sought.

Nelson didn't return a message sent to his Rutgers e-mail address. Jim Fleming, Nelson's attorney, didn't immediately return a voicemail message left at his office in Mankato.

Kolstad, 24, a former football player for Minnesota State University, Mankato, was found unconscious after being kicked twice in the head, according to the StarTribune of Minneapolis. As of Sunday evening he remained in critical condition, had undergone surgery and his brain had sustained permanent damage, the newspaper said, citing a statement by Kolstad's father.

"The Rutgers football family's thoughts and prayers are with Isaac Kolstad and his family," Scarlet Knights coach Kyle Flood said in a statement while disclosing Nelson's dismissal on the school's website.

Kolstad's family has set up a website to provide updates on his status while accepting donations and prayers.

Nelson transferred to New Brunswick, New Jersey-based Rutgers in January and would have had to sit out the 2014 season under college transfer rules. He started nine games and played in 12 last year for Minnesota, completing 94 of 186 pass attempts for 1,306 yards and nine touchdowns.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: Skitch on May 13, 2014, 11:45:07 AM
What does this have to do with showing they belong in the big ten? Or with Marquette basketball?
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on May 13, 2014, 11:55:50 AM
Superbar
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: The Lens on May 13, 2014, 12:31:17 PM
Ooooh, let me scour the Internet for an article that makes the nation's most powerful conference look bad.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 13, 2014, 12:44:18 PM
They were reporting this story all morning out this way.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 13, 2014, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: Tyrion on May 13, 2014, 11:55:50 AM
Superbar

I always marvel at these self-appointed screeners.  As if the moderators could not figure this out alone.

And, in the off-season, why do we care that much?
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: GGGG on May 13, 2014, 01:28:32 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 13, 2014, 01:26:50 PM
I always marvel at these self-appointed screeners.  As if the moderators could not figure this out alone.

And, in the off-season, why do we care that much?


Because it is off-topic and we have a board readily available for this topic.

Why make the moderators do work that you don't bother doing? 
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: Tums Festival on May 13, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
The bottom line is a young man with a young child and pregnant wife is fighting for his life because of some goon.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: ecompt on May 13, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
Quote from: The Lens on May 13, 2014, 12:31:17 PM
Ooooh, let me scour the Internet for an article that makes the nation's most powerful conference look bad.

More powerful than the SEC? No freaking way.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: GGGG on May 13, 2014, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: ecompt on May 13, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
More powerful than the SEC? No freaking way.


Yeah it is.  Just watch the next television contract and how much each school pulls in.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: Windyplayer on May 13, 2014, 02:19:09 PM
Quote from: Heavy Gear on May 13, 2014, 01:48:32 PM
The bottom line is a young man with a young child and pregnant wife is fighting for his life because of some goon.
God, you'd think as a society we're at that point where we understand even one blow to the head can result in permanent damage, a very, very long prison sentence, and a lot of ruined lives. Obviously, booze probably plays a big role in a lot of these incidents.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: source? on May 13, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
Quote from: ecompt on May 13, 2014, 01:56:24 PM
More powerful than the SEC? No freaking way.

The SEC may have more success in football, but they are not as powerful as the Big Ten. The SEC has a lot more ground to make up in areas besides football than the Big Ten has to make up in football.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 13, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 13, 2014, 01:59:38 PM

Yeah it is.  Just watch the next television contract and how much each school pulls in.

I agree, for now. Wait til the SEC Network gets going in the Fall. The SEC will catch and surpass the B1G.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: The Lens on May 13, 2014, 03:19:38 PM
Conferences are not measured on the field of play.  If they were we wouldn't be going to Omaha or Indianapolis every year.  The Big Ten offers the right combination of iconic brands, passionate fan bases and DMAs. 
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: GGGG on May 13, 2014, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 13, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
I agree, for now. Wait til the SEC Network gets going in the Fall. The SEC will catch and surpass the B1G.


We'll see.  I doubt they will anytime soon.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: source? on May 13, 2014, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 13, 2014, 02:45:37 PM
I agree, for now. Wait til the SEC Network gets going in the Fall. The SEC will catch and surpass the B1G.

You may be right, and time will tell. I will say that the Big Ten has all the advantages it could need to maintain a strong position. They have, on average, 8,000 more students than SEC schools, higher academic rankings, larger endowments, and more varied markets. I would also argue that the Big Ten owns every market they are in with the exceptions of Rutgers and possibly Maryland. In the SEC you have Florida, Georgia, and Texas A&M all competing with other name brand institutions for their markets.

That said, I'm no expert and have no behind the scenes knowledge. You could be 100% right.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: real chili 83 on May 13, 2014, 08:48:28 PM
There was a lot of booze.

These two went to rival high schools.  A second person was also arrested.

Just effin stupid.
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on May 14, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: source? on May 13, 2014, 03:46:36 PM
You may be right, and time will tell. I will say that the Big Ten has all the advantages it could need to maintain a strong position. They have, on average, 8,000 more students than SEC schools, higher academic rankings, larger endowments, and more varied markets. I would also argue that the Big Ten owns every market they are in with the exceptions of Rutgers and possibly Maryland. In the SEC you have Florida, Georgia, and Texas A&M all competing with other name brand institutions for their markets.

That said, I'm no expert and have no behind the scenes knowledge. You could be 100% right.

you should probably add Northwestern to that list but otherwise I agree
Title: Re: Rutgers Showing They Belong In The Big Ten
Post by: GGGG on May 14, 2014, 10:20:04 AM
Chicago is a Big Ten market, not because of Northwestern, but because every other B10 university has a huge alumni presence in the city.
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