Marquette Year in Review: Derrick WilsonWe apologize for these player reviews being so late into the offseason â€" Marquette played its last game nearly two months ago â€" but that pesky thing called the real world got in the way. That, and the coaching chance made us put these bad boys on the back burner. We’ll try and give you [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=painttouches.com&blog=28348875&post=11839&subd=painttouches&ref=&feed=1" width="1" height="1" />
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The comments on this should be interesting ;D
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on May 08, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
The comments on this should be interesting ;D
In the end, this MU team had missing parts and some square pegs for round holes. Unfortunately, despite his obvious good efforts and contributions, Derrick was one of those square pegs in the grand scheme of things.
Quote from: Wojo'sMojo on May 08, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
The comments on this should be interesting ;D
Yeah I'm sure we'll break new ground...
IBTL
Quote from: The Sultan of Slurpery on May 08, 2014, 09:45:47 AM
Yeah I'm sure we'll break new ground...
Think if nothing else, Strotty has officially and deservedly so - taken the crown from you as Biggest Slurper.
Strotty writes some good articles, yet he struggles mightily to ever write a critical piece - not sure I ever recall 1 instance where he was truly critical of Buzz or an MU player. Andrei, on the other hand, at Paint Touches actually does the part of true journalist - doesn't write exclusively puff pieces.
I suspect Mark Strotman may figure out just how big of issue Derrick was running the team 30+ minutes a game, next season when Carlino/Duane/Dawson are the ones logging major minutes at PG...and the team actually becomes fun to watch again and wins games...even though it lost its two leading scorers from the prior year..and is playing under a rookie head coach.
Quote from: Ners on May 08, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Think if nothing else, Strotty has officially and deservedly so - taken the crown from you as Biggest Slurper.
Strotty writes some good articles, yet he struggles mightily to ever write a critical piece - not sure I ever recall 1 instance where he was truly critical of Buzz or an MU player. Andrei, on the other hand, at Paint Touches actually does the part of true journalist - doesn't write exclusively puff pieces.
I suspect Mark Strotman may figure out just how big of issue Derrick was running the team 30+ minutes a game, next season when Carlino/Duane/Dawson are the ones logging major minutes at PG...and the team actually becomes fun to watch again and wins games...even though it lost its two leading scorers from the prior year..and is playing under a rookie head coach.
Agreed!! Thought that was the worst player review article so far. Maybe they both should have written a review...Pure puff piece and I was expecting a more realistic review. My favorite line was "one of the many things he did well, was earn the trust of Buzz to play over 30 mpg."
Someone writes an article that actually used stats and facts to backup the claims that Derrick was solid on defense and poor on offense, and somehow that's a puff piece?
Really interested in what a non-puff piece article on Derrick Wilson's year in review would have looked like.
Quote from: g0lden3agle on May 08, 2014, 10:13:07 AM
Someone writes an article that actually used stats and facts to backup the claims that Derrick was solid on defense and poor on offense, and somehow that's a puff piece?
Really interested in what a non-puff piece article on Derrick Wilson's year in review would have looked like.
If you don't attack Derrick mercilessly, Ners thinks its a puff-piece. I would think he could use this article to think critically that his position might be a bit extreme...but he's that that self-reflective.
The truth hurts.
Quote from: tower912 on May 08, 2014, 10:48:26 AM
The truth hurts.
Sure does for those of you who relentlessly stood by the worst season turned in by a max minute PG in high major basketball in the last 10-20 years (at least on the offensive side of the court.) Funny, this article cites Derrick as being the best defender on the team using Points per Possession as a metric...and Dawson was 3rd best on the team measured on Points Per Possession yielded defensively..and only a point worse than Derrick..
I just wonder how many more games we might have won this game if Derrick made 28% of his 3 pt FG attempts (which would have been 3 more makes) and 81% of his FT attempts (which would have been 32 more makes). Somehow I think those additional 41 points would have helped last years team...particularly if Derrick needed to be guarded everywhere on the floor. As mentioned...pretty hard to turn the ball over much when your defender sags 5 feet off of you, and we had ZERO transition game/virtually no pressure put on the defense by our PG all season and game long.
Quote from: Ners on May 08, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
and we had ZERO transition game/virtually no pressure put on the defense by our PG all season and game long.
You're honestly pinning the lack of transition game on Derrick, rather than the game plan devised by the coach?
Quote from: g0lden3agle on May 08, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
You're honestly pinning the lack of transition game on Derrick, rather than the game plan devised by the coach?
LOL - You're honestly thinking a coach would prefer to play 4 on 5 against a set defense in the half court than trying to convert in transition?? Wow. Just wow. If Buzz devised a game plan to say no fast breaks, so we can get into our offense on the other end and be playing 4 on 5 - he was even crazier last year than I thought.
Quote from: Ners on May 08, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
LOL - You're honestly thinking a coach would prefer to play 4 on 5 against a set defense in the half court than trying to convert in transition?? Wow. Just wow. If Buzz devised a game plan to say no fast breaks, so we can get into our offense on the other end and be playing 4 on 5 - he was even crazier last year than I thought.
I recall plenty of times last year where MU got a defensive board and I found myself thinking "wow, a couple years ago we would have been jumping out on the fast break in that situation". With the exception of a couple of boneheaded Mayo transition turnovers I don't remember ever thinking "wow, we really can't convert in transition". IMO lack of transition offense was for lack of trying, not lack of ability.
Does anyone actually keep track of transition offense in College bball?
Quote from: Ners on May 08, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
figure out just how big of issue Derrick was running the team 30+ minutes a game, next season when Carlino/Duane/Dawson are the ones logging major minutes at PG...and the team actually becomes fun to watch again and wins games...even though it lost its two leading scorers from the prior year..and is playing under a rookie head coach.
Quit doing that.
You know that's not how to make evaluations.
Quote from: Ners on May 08, 2014, 11:03:35 AM
Sure does for those of you who relentlessly stood by the worst season turned in by a max minute PG in high major basketball in the last 10-20 years (at least on the offensive side of the court.) Funny, this article cites Derrick as being the best defender on the team using Points per Possession as a metric...and Dawson was 3rd best on the team measured on Points Per Possession yielded defensively..and only a point worse than Derrick..
I just wonder how many more games we might have won this game if Derrick made 28% of his 3 pt FG attempts (which would have been 3 more makes) and 81% of his FT attempts (which would have been 32 more makes). Somehow I think those additional 41 points would have helped last years team...particularly if Derrick needed to be guarded everywhere on the floor. As mentioned...pretty hard to turn the ball over much when your defender sags 5 feet off of you, and we had ZERO transition game/virtually no pressure put on the defense by our PG all season and game long.
Screed on.
The article was correct and presented documented facts correctly and in context.
However, there were two points over-looked. One is that Brentino ran the poor kid into the ground. Derrick played very, very hard. There was more than one game when it was obvious that Derrick's legs had turned to rubber and that he was totally gassed. In short, Brentino allocated this player resource (and others) poorly.
The other fact not addressed is that Derrick did not have very good court vision and frankly was not a good passer. Instead of being the key clog in the offense, he clogged it.
I hope he gets a NFL try out. He appears to have the skill to be a running, or defensive, back. In fact, maybe that was his intention in turning down college football scholarships. He worked on a skill set that can serve him in the NFL, without having gone through four years of college football pounding/wear and tear.
:D Brentino?
We need a consensus for referring to BW
Quote from: Ners on May 08, 2014, 09:57:23 AM
Think if nothing else, Strotty has officially and deservedly so - taken the crown from you as Biggest Slurper.
Slurper began as an insult to mainstream Scoopers by a guy who lived on the fringe. For a while it slipped into normal conversation. Nice to see it returned to its rightful place
Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 08, 2014, 02:08:45 PM
Slurper began as an insult to mainstream Scoopers by a guy who lived on the fringe. For a while it slipped into normal conversation. Nice to see it returned to its rightful place
Like the term "queer," I now own it so Ners, willie, et. al. can no longer insult me with it.
So, defensive metrics prove that Derrick Wilson had...dare I say...game changing defense?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 08, 2014, 03:30:44 PM
So, defensive metrics prove that Derrick Wilson had...dare I say...game changing defense?
I don't think it proved that at all. Did Jamil have game changing defense then as well? Our defense wasn't very good last year, he was arguably the best of the bunch though.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 08, 2014, 03:30:44 PM
So, defensive metrics prove that Derrick Wilson had...dare I say...game changing defense?
I don't think so but does it really matter? He's not of high enough quality that he should have played the minutes he did. People (and the specifics escape me at the moment) love to say that basketball is played on both ends of the court so you can't just look at offense, for example. But it goes both ways. His defense was good but his offense was horrid or worse. So the arguments about this player or that player couldn't play because his defense wasn't good enough are empty.
Quote from: slingkong on May 09, 2014, 11:13:49 AM
I don't think so but does it really matter? He's not of high enough quality that he should have played the minutes he did. People (and the specifics escape me at the moment) love to say that basketball is played on both ends of the court so you can't just look at offense, for example. But it goes both ways. His defense was good but his offense was horrid or worse. So the arguments about this player or that player couldn't play because his defense wasn't good enough are empty.
Derrick is a role player.
If he was on the Globetrotters, he'd be fine. They score enough that they wouldn't need much offense.
In the real world, he can be effective for up to 20mpg. More than that, and his issues become amplified.
Unfortunately, last season the coach didn't trust or develop his other options.
Remember that failed attempt at letting Jamil play PG? Eek, that was ugly.