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Title: Darius Leonard
Post by: thehammock on May 07, 2014, 10:35:58 PM
Grad transfer visiting MU
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/07/campbell-forward-darius-leonard-to-transfer/
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 07, 2014, 10:46:06 PM
He's really not that good.  However, he is, I suppose, better than nothing which is kinda what we have inside next year, particularly first semester.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: MarquetteDano on May 07, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
Saw him play on ESPN earlier this year. Remember thinking he is kinda of like Jamil Wilson... 6'8" with longer arms.  Can shoot the three and, in that game, shied away from contact just like Jamil.

Also, is there any concern that he will be at his third school in his career?  I know nothing about him but just asking.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 07, 2014, 10:53:42 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on May 07, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
Saw him play on ESPN earlier this year. Remember thinking he is kinda of like Jamil Wilson... 6'8" with longer arms.  Can shoot the three and, in that game, shied away from contact just like Jamil.

Also, is there any concern that he will be at his third school in his career?  I know nothing about him but just asking.

No, the concern is Derrick Wilson playing center.  Actually...
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: chapman on May 08, 2014, 07:21:32 AM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on May 07, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
Also, is there any concern that he will be at his third school in his career?  I know nothing about him but just asking.

Same as Carlino.  Even though we're benefitting once and possibly twice from it this offseason, I'll say it again: I hate the graduate transfer rule applying to players who have already transferred previously.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: BCHoopster on May 08, 2014, 07:25:36 AM
Need a back-up or even a starter, or competition with Steve Taylor, he has some experience, MU has no depth, need somebody.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Wojo'sMojo on May 08, 2014, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 07, 2014, 10:53:42 PM
No, the concern is Derrick Wilson playing center.  Actually...

I think Derrick is a center at heart. Bad ft shooting and won't shoot outside of 3 feet. Maybe his role next year should be to use up 5 fouls guarding the opposing teams center  ;D
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: WarriorFan on May 08, 2014, 08:47:38 AM
even if he is only a practice player, taylor and fischer need someone to go against. 

Plus, he'll play in the Jim Burr games when our bigs get into foul trouble.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: GGGG on May 08, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on May 07, 2014, 10:48:47 PM
Saw him play on ESPN earlier this year. Remember thinking he is kinda of like Jamil Wilson... 6'8" with longer arms.  Can shoot the three and, in that game, shied away from contact just like Jamil.

Also, is there any concern that he will be at his third school in his career?  I know nothing about him but just asking.


He's a grad transfer.  It's one year.  Not very risky.  We can offer him playing time because we need his length.

Furthermore we have to keep in mind that Fischer will be coming to us with just a few games experience.  I think he is going to be good, but let's beware of not setting the bar too high expectation-wise.  A guy like this is pretty important IMO.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: BCHoopster on May 08, 2014, 09:02:14 AM
Fischer will have his up and downs next year, he is probably better than Otule but will not be the same scoring threat that Devante was, I would say a good year,  8 points and 6
boards would be a good year.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Ben Golds Five on May 08, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
I loved that he played for the Fighting Camels.  ;D
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Big Papi on May 08, 2014, 10:14:00 AM
You absolutely take him if you can get him.  Options are extremely limited for those that can play next year, especially those with height. 

You bank the other ship for maybe a mid-season transfer. 

You go into next year knowing that Noskowiak is committed.  Heldt will be in the fold if Wojo wants him and you go from there.  Considering we could have had a situation similar to Oregon, its as good as it gets for us with a coaching change.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: MuMark on May 08, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
Heldt has already been offered and if you listen to IWB's interview with him a couple of days ago Wojo appears to want him. He has been in contact every day with Matt and/or his parents.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 08, 2014, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: saucy1_23 on May 08, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
I loved that he played for the Fighting Camels.  ;D

Filtered or unfiltered?
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Big Papi on May 08, 2014, 10:47:52 AM
Quote from: MuMark on May 08, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
Heldt has already been offered and if you listen to IWB's interview with him a couple of days ago Wojo appears to want him. He has been in contact every day with Matt and/or his parents.

I did listen to the interview and believe that he will commit to MU as soon as both get to know each other a little better.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 08, 2014, 12:40:32 PM
Leonard would be a good add. He's probably the second best big left on the graduate transfer market (with Houston's TyShawn Taylor being the best). Adds size plus shot 38% from three last season. Fills two big needs.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: MU82 on May 08, 2014, 12:51:18 PM
Of course you get him if you can. Total no-brainer.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: keefe on May 08, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
Quote from: saucy1_23 on May 08, 2014, 09:13:43 AM
I loved that he played for the Fighting Camels.  ;D

They have Camel Fights in A Stan

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z0i3lFk1mQo/TYooazRP6pI/AAAAAAAAn8I/pOo_UMeU4M0/s1600/Camels.jpg)


America has Camel Towing

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/1498950_665702383479354_2774586111348856868_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: GooooMarquette on May 08, 2014, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: LittleMurs on May 07, 2014, 10:46:06 PM
He's really not that good.  However, he is, I suppose, better than nothing which is kinda what we have inside next year, particularly first semester.

Agreed.  He finished 3rd in scoring and rebounding on a team that went 12-20 and only 6-10 in the Big South Conference.  Totally different experience level than Carlino or Lockett, who both had proven they can be productive at the high-major level.

If Wojo doesn't have better uses for the scholarship right now though, it makes sense to sign him.  It's only one year, and he'd probably get a few minutes behind STJr early, and then be a practice player or insurance against injuries inside.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: GOO on May 08, 2014, 01:20:13 PM
If we get him, he is going to play.  We have two bigs and Juan Anderson.   If Darius can run the court and stand between his man and the hoop, he will play. We should be begging him to pick us and come to MU.

I'd go so far as to say we'd be very lucky to have him at this point, unless there is some other option that we don't know about.  At least Darius would draw a big defender out of the paint on offense, if nothing else. 

But disregard the above if we are serious about DeWilson playing at the 4 or 5, which might be our best option after Taylor Jr and Fischer if we don't land Darius.  And between Juan and Darius getting playing time at the 4 or 5, I'd bet on Darius. 

Deonte can play some at the 4, but that still leaves a lot of minutes at the 4 and 5 to fill. 
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on May 08, 2014, 02:04:21 PM
its a good thing camel fights were banned in the US

years ago you might recall a trucking company Campbell 66 and their logo

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2175/1644539553_e6e715e3cd.jpg)


Quote from: keefe on May 08, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
They have Camel Fights in A Stan

America has Camel Towing


Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: MU82 on May 08, 2014, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: GOO on May 08, 2014, 01:20:13 PM
Deonte can play some at the 4, but that still leaves a lot of minutes at the 4 and 5 to fill. 

I sure as hell hope Deonte can play some at the 4, because he's gonna have to play a lot at the 4, especially in the first semester.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 08, 2014, 02:59:38 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on May 08, 2014, 12:57:22 PM
Agreed.  He finished 3rd in scoring and rebounding on a team that went 12-20 and only 6-10 in the Big South Conference.  Totally different experience level than Carlino or Lockett, who both had proven they can be productive at the high-major level.

If Wojo doesn't have better uses for the scholarship right now though, it makes sense to sign him.  It's only one year, and he'd probably get a few minutes behind STJr early, and then be a practice player or insurance against injuries inside.

I said the same thing but Equalizer pointed out something that gave me some hope. Leonard did extremely well against high major opponents:
@NCST: 35 minutes, 17 points, 9 rebounds, 1 assist
@CIN: 31 minutes, 16 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 2-3 3P.

Obviously these are only two games. But he at least showed some ability.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: keefe on May 08, 2014, 05:13:46 PM
Bottom line is we need some size and it's a seller's market. Sign him. It's low risk.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 08, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Is this the same as Camel Toe?
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on May 08, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: GOO on May 08, 2014, 01:20:13 PM


But disregard the above if we are serious about DeWilson playing at the 4 or 5, which might be our best option after Taylor Jr and Fischer if we don't land Darius. 

Deonte can play some at the 4, but that still leaves a lot of minutes at the 4 and 5 to fill. 
Who was serious about DeWil playing the 4 or 5?  Someone with a crack pipe I'm guessing.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: raul on May 08, 2014, 11:03:16 PM
Much like Carlino having Leonard for one year is a no brainer. Otherwise you have an open scholarship. An extra body for practices is always a plus.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 08, 2014, 11:09:15 PM
Quote from: GOO on May 08, 2014, 01:20:13 PM
If we get him, he is going to play.  We have two bigs and Juan Anderson.   If Darius can run the court and stand between his man and the hoop, he will play. We should be begging him to pick us and come to MU.

I'd go so far as to say we'd be very lucky to have him at this point, unless there is some other option that we don't know about.  At least Darius would draw a big defender out of the paint on offense, if nothing else. 

But disregard the above if we are serious about DeWilson playing at the 4 or 5, which might be our best option after Taylor Jr and Fischer if we don't land Darius.  And between Juan and Darius getting playing time at the 4 or 5, I'd bet on Darius. 

Deonte can play some at the 4, but that still leaves a lot of minutes at the 4 and 5 to fill. 

"We should be begging him to pick us and come to MU."

We should, and I'm sure we will.  That doesn't change the fact that he isn't really that good.  If we don't get him it will probably be over concern on his part that he'll have to be the center more than just a few minutes a game.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 08, 2014, 11:11:23 PM
Quote from: raul on May 08, 2014, 11:03:16 PM
Much like Carlino having Leonard for one year is a no brainer. Otherwise you have an open scholarship. An extra body for practices is always a plus.


Graduate transfers generally don't transfer for the opportunity to be a practice body.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: raul on May 08, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
True littleM but with no big(except for Steve T.) for the first half of the year he will get plenty of playing time. My point was simply that there is all pluses in having him next year. MU will be better because of him.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: keefe on May 09, 2014, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: Tyrion on May 08, 2014, 02:04:21 PM
its a good thing camel fights were banned in the US

years ago you might recall a trucking company Campbell 66 and their logo

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2175/1644539553_e6e715e3cd.jpg)



That's hilarious. I remember those trucks! Not sure if they're still in business but a real slice of Americana. I wonder if they invented the "Trucker Girl" Mud Flaps?

http://www.campbell66express.com/

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh194/brianandjessfunk/trucker20girl.jpg)
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: GOO on May 09, 2014, 09:36:18 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on May 08, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Who was serious about DeWil playing the 4 or 5?  Someone with a crack pipe I'm guessing.
Tongue in cheek, should have used teal.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 09, 2014, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 08, 2014, 09:07:07 PM
Is this the same as Camel Toe?

To you, yes.
Title: Re: Darius Leonard
Post by: leever on May 09, 2014, 10:47:17 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on May 08, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Who was serious about DeWil playing the 4 or 5?  Someone with a crack pipe I'm guessing.

He can't play the 4 or 5 once he's drafted in the NFL!
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