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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: kryza on May 04, 2014, 03:52:20 PM
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Press conference tomorrow in NYC. Rumors are a few matchups between teams at the MSG starting in 2015
http://www.jrn.com/wtmj/wi-sports/Possible-Big-East-vs-Big-Ten-challenge-at-MSG-257868911.html
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Way to go Fox Sports.
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Way to go Fox Sports.
Agreed. Way to take things away from ESPN and get eyes on your stuff.
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Excellent news. Has Val gotten the website finished to announce?
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This is HUGE.
Also great to see us forming solid relationships with one of, if not the most, powerful football conference.
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Sources on twitter saying 8 games a year. That's a lot more then I was expecting!
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FOR EIGHT YEARS!!!
"Each Big East team will play a minimum of six times during the length of the eight-year deal, and each Big Ten program will participate at least four times" - Dana O'Neill
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10882667/big-east-big-ten-hold-challenge-series
Stewart Mandel @slmandel
The Big Ten-Big East Gavitt Tipoff will be four days, eight games during first week of the season. http://bit.ly/1kCRL5u
https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/463073002179936256
Sources on twitter saying 8 games a year. That's a lot more then I was expecting!
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This is great news for the BEast. Do you think we get paired up with Wisconsin? Or will that rivalry be separate? This article seems to think they will use local rivals.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/05/big_ten-big_east_basketball_an.html
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This is great news for the BEast. Do you think we get paired up with Wisconsin? Or will that rivalry be separate? This article seems to think they will use local rivals.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/05/big_ten-big_east_basketball_an.html
That makes the most sense of anything I've heard on twitter. I wonder, does this mean we will play IU now?
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Can't see our UW game being part of this.
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ESPN is part of this, despite their on record mantra to destroy the Big East?
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Press conference tomorrow in NYC. Rumors are a few matchups between teams at the MSG starting in 2015
http://www.jrn.com/wtmj/wi-sports/Possible-Big-East-vs-Big-Ten-challenge-at-MSG-257868911.html
not at MSG
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Glad none of the games are at MSG; not a fan of neutral site games. Season ticket holders pay good money and should get rewarded with these types of games.
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We have an away game with tOSU left this season.
Geography makes a little sense.
MU-UW
DePaul- Illinois, NW
Creighton- Nebraska
Xavier- tOSU
Butler- I4, Purdue
Nova- Penn State
Georgetown- Maryland
Seton Hall, St. John's- Rutgers
Providence- ?
Speaking of match-ups, does the UW- Duke game assure us of having the UW game on 12/13? Is Fischer available then? I can't see Bo wanting to schedule, Thanksgiving tournament, Duke @ home and @ Marquette in a 2 week period. But I think (especially next year) Bo would probably want a tougher non-conference schedule.
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I'm gonna be livid if we don't get Rutgers.
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I'm excited about this only as long as the Big East is competitive. If it can't be, I don't want to get our butts handed to us every year. This past year, it would have been ugly. The Big East has to step things up a lot to make this a good series year in and year out.
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@mikebroeker: Gavitt game with B10 when it starts in '15 will be in addition to our game with Wisconsin. #mubb
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@mikebroeker: Gavitt game with B10 when it starts in '15 will be in addition to our game with Wisconsin. #mubb
Good. I want to play Wisconsin every year and not have it be part of some other event. We can play another BT team. I'd love to play NW or Ill, but anyone but Bucky would be fine.
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I'm excited about this only as long as the Big East is competitive. If it can't be, I don't want to get our butts handed to us every year. This past year, it would have been ugly. The Big East has to step things up a lot to make this a good series year in and year out.
Big East Record vs. the Big Ten in 2013:
Butler: 1-0 (Purdue)
Creighton: 1-0 (Nebraska)
DePaul: 1-0 (Northwestern)
Georgetown: 1-0 (Michigan State)
Marquette: 0-2 (Ohio State, Wisconsin)
Providence: 0-0
Seton Hall: 1-0 (Rutgers)
St. John's: 0-2 (Penn State, Wisconsin)
Villanova: 1-0 (Iowa)
Xavier: 0-1 (Iowa)
So 6-5 this season, which isn't too bad, should be interesting at least.
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Way to go Fox Sports.
The Big East has a deal on FS1 and (per Chicos) Fox owns 51% of the Big Ten Network.
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I'm excited about this only as long as the Big East is competitive. If it can't be, I don't want to get our butts handed to us every year. This past year, it would have been ugly. The Big East has to step things up a lot to make this a good series year in and year out.
The other problem I see is that the Big Ten gets much better visibility by playing in the BE home cities than vice versa.
Its not like the Big East teams will gain much through visits to destination like Lincoln, Urbana, or West Lafayette. Meanwhile, the Big Ten will get to add marquee destinations in talent-rich markets like Chicago, Indianapolis and New York.
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The other problem I see is that the Big Ten gets much better visibility by playing in the BE home cities than vice versa.
Its not like the Big East teams will gain much through visits to destination like Lincoln, Urbana, or West Lafayette. Meanwhile, the Big Ten will get to add marquee destinations in talent-rich markets like Chicago, Indianapolis and New York.
Couldn't disagree more. Visibility is about eyeballs on screens. These games will help the Big East (and the Big Ten).
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Wonder if I4 will still be around by the 15-16 season.
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I don't see any downside to this. It does reinforce the B10's desire to grow their brand in the northeast but that really isn't a problem for the BE.
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This is HUGE.
Also great to see us forming solid relationships with one of, if not the most, powerful football conference.
I thought the Big East was playing Big Ten, so it's the SEC.
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I don't see any downside to this. It does reinforce the B10's desire to grow their brand in the northeast but that really isn't a problem for the BE.
Agree completely. The Big Ten is already in the majority of the markets that the Big East is in, other than Providence, especially with the addition of Maryland and Rutgers. They already are in the metro markets, and in many cases already have a big presence in that market so they aren't gaining anything in terms of recruiting. For the Big East though, and just as importantly, Fox Sports 1, this is big.
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Fox sports will make this work, they are masters at working their way into new ventures. NFL being the prime example, they came into it rolling and never looked back. That's why we have to hold off judgment on the state of the BE. We are going to get a lot of exposure as they build their brand.
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Big East Record vs. the Big Ten in 2013:
Butler: 1-0 (Purdue)
Creighton: 1-0 (Nebraska)
DePaul: 1-0 (Northwestern)
Georgetown: 1-0 (Michigan State)
Marquette: 0-2 (Ohio State, Wisconsin)
Providence: 0-0
Seton Hall: 1-0 (Rutgers)
St. John's: 0-2 (Penn State, Wisconsin)
Villanova: 1-0 (Iowa)
Xavier: 0-1 (Iowa)
So 6-5 this season, which isn't too bad, should be interesting at least.
Your numbers are off
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The other problem I see is that the Big Ten gets much better visibility by playing in the BE home cities than vice versa.
Its not like the Big East teams will gain much through visits to destination like Lincoln, Urbana, or West Lafayette. Meanwhile, the Big Ten will get to add marquee destinations in talent-rich markets like Chicago, Indianapolis and New York.
Marquette will get a ton of visibility from playing at MSU or U of M. Lots of good recruits in those markets that we can showcase in front of.
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Your numbers are off
Which game(s) did I miss?
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The Big East has a deal on FS1 and (per Chicos) Fox owns 51% of the Big Ten Network.
Dude... why quote Chicos when there's another internets source that is notoriously more reputable?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Network
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Big East Record vs. the Big Ten in 2013:
Butler: 1-0 (Purdue)
Creighton: 1-0 (Nebraska)
DePaul: 1-0 (Northwestern)
Georgetown: 1-0 (Michigan State)
Marquette: 0-2 (Ohio State, Wisconsin)
Providence: 0-0
Seton Hall: 1-0 (Rutgers)
St. John's: 0-2 (Penn State, Wisconsin)
Villanova: 1-0 (Iowa)
Xavier: 0-1 (Iowa)
So 6-5 this season, which isn't too bad, should be interesting at least.
If you are going to count Seton Hall's win over Rutgers, you have to count Providence's loss to Maryland.
So 6-6. So as you said, should be interesting.
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I thought the Big East was playing Big Ten, so it's the SEC.
When you factor in money, market population, and alumni base, the B1G is arguably the most powerful.
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Wonder if I4 will still be around by the 15-16 season.
Tucker: I don't think I've seen a girl that mean before. Are you sure she's a chick? And not a guy? Or like, part guy part shark?
Church: She got recruited into some kind of weird experimental program back during basic where they infused her Nimrod hoodie with this really aggressive A.I. I'm not really sure how it all works, but all I know is it made her meaner and tougher than hell.
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Dude... why quote Chicos when there's another internets source that is notoriously more reputable?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Ten_Network
Come on now, that's not nice.
I may have been quite involved in the first deal for BTN and may know a bit about how they operate. May. ;)
I wouldn't use Wiki, here's one
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2011/09/01/College-Football-Preview/College-Football-Media-Notes.aspx
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Which game(s) did I miss?
Rutgers wasn't in the Big Ten last year
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I'm excited about this only as long as the Big East is competitive. If it can't be, I don't want to get our butts handed to us every year. This past year, it would have been ugly. The Big East has to step things up a lot to make this a good series year in and year out.
I think it is interesting that this is happening now. Why not 3 years ago when the BE was the strongest conference around. Does the B10 perceive the BE to be weaker now so it is in their self-interest to make the deal?
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It might have to do with the B1G TV deal coming up.
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It might have to do with the B1G TV deal coming up.
Pretty much everything the B10 does like this needs to be looked at through that lens. They are increasing their presence in the northeast, and perhaps putting pressure on ESPN when the B10's television contract ends at the end of 2015-16.
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Hope they dont play Illinois. I would have some major problems watching either of those teams lose.
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I think it is interesting that this is happening now. Why not 3 years ago when the BE was the strongest conference around. Does the B10 perceive the BE to be weaker now so it is in their self-interest to make the deal?
3 years ago the BE had their series with the SEC going on, BE probably had no desire to pursue another series.
Additionally 3 years ago the B1G hadn't added Maryland and Rutgers and wasn't looking for East Coast exposure the way they are now. It has nothing to do with them thinking the BE is weak. It's to get them exposure in NYC, Philadelphia, DC, Providence.
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3 years ago the BE had their series with the SEC going on, BE probably had no desire to pursue another series.
Additionally 3 years ago the B1G hadn't added Maryland and Rutgers and wasn't looking for East Coast exposure the way they are now. It has nothing to do with them thinking the BE is weak. It's to get them exposure in NYC, Philadelphia, DC, Providence.
There's no room for your sound logic and reason around here, Hoya. Back to the Lyceum with you.
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3 years ago the BE had their series with the SEC going on, BE probably had no desire to pursue another series.
Additionally 3 years ago the B1G hadn't added Maryland and Rutgers and wasn't looking for East Coast exposure the way they are now. It has nothing to do with them thinking the BE is weak. It's to get them exposure in NYC, Philadelphia, DC, Providence.
Furthermore, they had been getting their ass handed to them for years in the ACC challenge. Now they are beginning to show the upper hand.
Why would they be looking for intentionally weak conferences *now*?
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I think it is interesting that this is happening now. Why not 3 years ago when the BE was the strongest conference around. Does the B10 perceive the BE to be weaker now so it is in their self-interest to make the deal?
We went 5-5 against them last season (6-6 if you count Maryland and Rutgers). So it's not like they are getting 8 games that are auto victories for them
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and today it was announced the BIG Whatever-it-is-now conference will play their championship tourney in DC in 2017
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and today it was announced the BIG Whatever-it-is-now conference will play their championship tourney in DC in 2017
I mentioned this previously, and I heard on WFAN the Rock was trying to lure the Big10 Championship to Newark at some point.
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and today it was announced the BIG Whatever-it-is-now conference will play their championship tourney in DC in 2017
I will point this out....that will be the first year of their new television contract.
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This is awesome.
https://amp.twimg.com/v/aa0e42f8-d77d-4690-a0d9-2e67c15b5dfb (https://amp.twimg.com/v/aa0e42f8-d77d-4690-a0d9-2e67c15b5dfb)
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My money says our first game in this event is MU vs Northwestern. Wojo vs Collins.
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I mentioned this previously, and I heard on WFAN the Rock was trying to lure the Big10 Championship to Newark at some point.
The best thing about Newark is the collection of Spanish restaurants just down the road from the Rock. I like Forno's but the Tavern is excellent, too.
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The best thing about Newark is the collection of Spanish restaurants just down the road from the Rock. I like Forno's but the Tavern is excellent, too.
Who knew there even was a "best thing about Newark"?
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Who knew there even was a "best thing about Newark"?
People that didn't know any better may very well say the same about Milwaukee.
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People that didn't know any better may very well say the same about Milwaukee.
True.
But at least Milwaukee ain't Newark! ;D
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People that didn't know any better may very well say the same about Milwaukee.
Milwaukee at least gets credit for beer and brats.
Not sure Newark has anything that even comes close.
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Milwaukee at least gets credit for beer and brats.
Not sure Newark has anything that even comes close.
But, but, but you can't beat a Milwaukee summer! That's all anybody from here says! Yeah, okay, enjoy the 2 1/2 months it gets nice at the beautiful Bradford Beach while people in Southern California are enjoying 75 and sunny 362 days a year and 70 and rainy the other 3. Oh and their beaches are **slightly** nicer. But you can't beat Milwaukee in the summer baby!
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I do miss the "tieup parties" and swimming in the lakes, I'll say that
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But, but, but you can't beat a Milwaukee summer! That's all anybody from here says! Yeah, okay, enjoy the 2 1/2 months it gets nice at the beautiful Bradford Beach while people in Southern California are enjoying 75 and sunny 362 days a year and 70 and rainy the other 3. Oh and their beaches are **slightly** nicer. But you can't beat Milwaukee in the summer baby!
How about the nonstop string of music fests that are crazy awesome? Milwaukee's more than Bradford in the summer come on.
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How about the nonstop string of music fests that are crazy awesome? Milwaukee's more than Bradford in the summer come on.
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Milwaukee in the summer is my favorite place to be for this very reason. Summerfest, Irishfest, Bastille Day, so much fun.
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Milwaukee in the summer is my favorite place to be for this very reason. Summerfest, Irishfest, Bastille Day, so much fun.
All that yes, but the rules for summer have been redefined, and the Good Land is now the indisputable Sultan of Summer* for Milwaukee has (or is about to have) something for which a summer in any red-blooded American city cannot truly be summer without: a mobile beer garden.
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2014/05/05/sprecher-brewing-could-operate-mobile-beer-garden.html
It's like an ice cream truck for adults. (Adults who don't run with dollar bills in hand when ice cream trucks come calling, at least.)
* Not intended to be a homage to our resident Sultan of Scoop, but whatever floats your boat, eh.
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Tucker: I don't think I've seen a girl that mean before. Are you sure she's a chick? And not a guy? Or like, part guy part shark?
Church: She got recruited into some kind of weird experimental program back during basic where they infused her Nimrod hoodie with this really aggressive A.I. I'm not really sure how it all works, but all I know is it made her meaner and tougher than hell.
Never thought I would see a Red vs. Blue reference on here
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A discussion on Milwaukee seems somewhat appropriate for this. I rode an elevator last week where someone hung up inside as an obvious joke a USA map labeled (along the lines of) "British Person responses to various areas of the United States".
Many areas received "Know nothing about." However, Wisconsin was labeled as "Cheese." Texas as "Guns" and "Oil". Boston area "Fake Irish". Southern New England as "Privileged White People".